User talk:Optimum Cheese

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Ways to improve Rachel Newton
Hello, Optimum Cheese,

Thank you for creating Rachel Newton.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

"TBH, I worry about such an accomplished page from a redlinked user with no apparent editing track record and too many sources are from blogs rather than editorially substantive publications - nevertheless there are sound sources here. I'd suggest a ruthless paring of the sources. I'd also look at the promotional tone of voice/language used and take it a little easier... If this is a paid/COI edit, I'd also come clean about that - I'm sorry, but right now it tends to read that way... Oh! It also needs a talk page with a project tag!"

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Alexandermcnabb (talk) 15:59, 11 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for looking at this - I'm still learning. No payment or conflict here (I've never even seen her live). I'd been editing some of the Scottish music award pages, seen her name pop up a few times and was surprised that there wasn't an article on her. Before I started writing it I had no idea how prolific she was (I kept thinking I was getting on well and then find a reference to her winning another award or being involved in another project).


 * Re: the promotional tone, I assume you mean the references to the reviews (please let me know if there are other bits that don't sound right). I'll look at trimming these and checking the sources.


 * Optimum Cheese (talk) 16:28, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Enjoy! :) Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 17:03, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

I was very pleased to see Optimum Cheese start this article, because it is one I have had on my own to-do list for a while now, and I have been watching it develop over the last few days/weeks in their sandbox. I think it is a well-written and comprehensive article. I am interested in this topic as a fan only; unlike Optimum Cheese I have seen the subject perform many times, but I do not know her personally.

I recognise that your comments on this page are polite and well-intentioned. I haven't worked out where the source is that you are quoting (presumably yourself?) from, but I am very troubled by an argument that basically says this article is too good, therefore it must be suspicious. Where's being kind to newbies and assuming good faith in that?

Specifically, Optimum Cheese has used a lot of reliable sources, and I can tell you that they are not always easy to find when writing about traditional music. Perhaps there are some others which are not so good, but are they being used to support controversial claims? Looking through the list of 61 references, there are three which could be considered self-published, and the others include several different national newspapers, plus leading magazines in the genre such as The Living Tradition. I do note that you have been a new page patroller for three days at the time of writing, and wonder if perhaps the surfeit of templates might be overdoing it a little? --Monxton (talk) 17:24, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * OC, yourself or any other editor can remove the templates at any time - particularly if the issues (the self-published/blog sources - I noted the many sound sources; the mildly promotional tone etc) are addressed. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 03:06, 12 November 2020 (UTC)