User talk:OrangeDog/Archive 2

SmackBot is stalking me
I was correct all along. User:Jarry1250 confirmed this.

So is there a way to see "top" beside our contributions even if SmackBot has been there? Please refer back to the proposals page. Vchimpanzee ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 15:38, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Boosh image deletion discussion
The CSDs were declined; the images are now at WP Files for deletion,.  R ad io pa th y  •talk•  17:49, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

IfD
If you're going to have anyone pay attention to your views at IfD, you're going to need to explain what makes this image significant, and why illustrating the look of this character rather than any other more significantly helps reader understanding.

Simply complaining your image has been nominated cuts no ice. The image has been nominated. Now you need to explain to people who don't know the show why it should be kept.

As it stands at the moment, there is nothing in your comment that would make an impression on either a closing admin or a review group at DRV.

Also note that, according to WP:NFC "it is the burden of users seeking to include or retain content to provide a valid rationale; those seeking to remove or delete it are not required to show that one cannot be created: see burden of proof." Jheald (talk) 19:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help on the article. I've also improved the FURs on the image pages. Might require some more box-ticking though. OrangeDog (talk • edits) 00:13, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

DRV for Boosh image?
I'd like to press on, but I don't feel I'm the best spokesman; do you want to start a DRV? - I will participate.  R ad io pa th y  •talk•  19:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I've never done one before, and Jheald knows his policy and practices better than me. I'll start one if he hasn't by the end of the (UTC) day. OrangeDog (talk • edits) 19:39, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

The Belgian is back
Hi Orange ! Back after several weeks of absence ( serious health troubles - I am disabled- but well now ! ). Thanks for your job on Martens ! Can you also check this Gaslamp Fantasy I also reworked ?? Cheers --Phil from Brussels 23:04, 22 August 2009 (UTC) aka chocolate Phil !
 * Wow, bummer. Anyway, I'll have a poke when I get round to it. OrangeDog (talk • edits) 17:23, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You're probably the best one to sort it out. Firstly, you need to put a translated page template on the talk page with the details of the French page you translated it from (and make sure you do this with every page you translate). Then format the references following WP:Citing sources - using cite templates may make it easier. Then just try and sort out the formatting to follow the WP:Manual of Style - e.g. remove angle brackets (<<>>) and bold text. OrangeDog (talk • edits) 02:38, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hello ! Back from a few holidaytime ! See my "front page" :PHILTHEGUNNER60 - I do not read nor speak serbo-wikipedian !! So your above mentionned " }template>}[{ran^]ĐůŁ<}{"  sounds startrek -kligonian to me ! Just do it to show me and I will duplicate next time I'll translate one of my contrib in "froglegseaterian" language ( and although Belgian - NOT French -, I also like frog-legs with garlic, parsil and a few green lemon juice ! ). Bien le bonjour PHILTHEGUNNER60 Brussels 15H10 (local!) Sept 5th, 2009  —Preceding unsigned comment added by PHILTHEGUNNER61 (talk • contribs) 13:12, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * If something displayed as " }template>}[{ran^]ĐůŁ<}{" then there's something wrong with your settings. Templates are quite simple really. Check out Help:Template for a guide. This one should be filled in something like the below (see the source). OrangeDog (talk • edits) 15:48, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you misunderstood. You have to replace the "version" number in the template with the version of the French page you translated. Details on how to do this are in the Translated page instructions. OrangeDog (talk • edits) 15:27, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

AIV reporting
Hi there! I came across this AIV report filed by yourself. You didn't make a grave mistake or anything, but there are other venues better-suited for this sort of thing. I'd say, next time, go to RFPP if you'd like to do it "by the book". Cheers, Master of Puppets  - Call me MoP! :D  03:12, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Like a hot knife through Nutella
Congrats on the DRV; your skillful words got the image relisted, and the rest is history. I had too many disruptions too close together and didn't think I'd be back, but then I saw your message on my talk page and decided I'm maybe semi-retired rather than completely.  R ad io pa th y  •talk•  23:48, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of St Lawrence Church, Ipswich
Hello! Your submission of St Lawrence Church, Ipswich at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Materialscientist (talk) 12:03, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Robert I. Sherman
Well, you're right, I simply could try to address the issues and then recreate the article. But to do that, I would need access to the deleted version. Could you possibly help me obtain it? If necessary, I can give you more information about the issue. Zara1709 (talk) 20:30, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not an administrator. And judging by the AfD comments, it would be best to start from scratch. OrangeDog (talk • edits) 20:34, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

That
I'd be genuinely interested to know where to find an editing style guide that gives the rules for "that" having precedence over a non-restrictive appositive. It is something that has long bothered me. Regards, Ericoides (talk) 21:30, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * My point being that you don't need both commas, which would make the following clause appear incorrect. OrangeDog (talk • edits) 21:52, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You'll have to argue the point with someone else now. Regards, Ericoides (talk) 10:30, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Napoleon and Tabitha D'umo
I would appreciate it if you could please comment on the article I wrote about Napoleon and Tabitha D'umo. It is currently listed for peer review here. I decided to invite you because your user page states that you know when to use that vs. which... I don't. Please review this article to see if I used these terms correctly. This article is short, only two pages printed (of prose, not including references or external links). If you accept my invitation, it shouldn't take up too much of your time. // Gbern3 (talk) 19:53, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for copy editing this article. I should've left you this message two weeks ago but better late than never, I suppose. // Gbern3 (talk) 18:06, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

The Legend of Neil
You recently proposed deleting The Legend of Neil through CSD#A7. I tried to improve the article and removed the notice. If you want to take the article to AfD, that's fine, but I didn't feel that CSD was appropriate if a few assertions of notability were made. Thanks. -Phoenixrod (talk) 17:46, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No offence to you or the subject matter, but I'm still not sure if it is notable. Articles for deletion/The Legend of Neil. OrangeDog (talk • edits) 17:59, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't worry&mdash;none taken. It's simply the process we go through. I have no stake in the matter, but LoN seems possibly notable enough to have an article. We'll find out! -Phoenixrod (talk) 18:03, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Stupid border cases making us think. :p OrangeDog (talk • edits) 18:19, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like it probably is now. Good work finding sources. OrangeDog (talk • edits) 21:04, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I had a feeling there were sources out there. And even though you made me think on a weekend (joke!), I'm glad I could help. -Phoenixrod (talk) 21:10, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Derren Brown - The Events
Firstly, thank you for correcting my grammar. Next, never in Event 3 did it mention that the show was 'live'; you said Brown revealed that the "live" show was actually recorded. Also, and I have checked, only in event 3 does it state: no actors or stooges were used in the making of this show. Finally, many of the audiance did not draw a 'target' shape; but some form of concentric circles. Thank you (I get quite passionate about his shows).Greggydude (talk) 17:18, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Funny that, because I checked too, and oh look, there it is. OrangeDog (talk • edits) 18:16, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair play (but no need to be so sarcastic). However, during the show, some circle drawings were shown which look nothing like what was on the canvas, which had 3 rings in a 'target' shape. I think that saying 30% of people had that exact shape is misleading.

Moonie AfD
The article has undergone a significant rewrite and expansion since you commented in the AfD. Perhaps you could take another look at the article and revisit Articles for deletion/Moonies? Thank you for your time, Cirt (talk) 18:29, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

coldfusion-1
Done. - Altenmann >t 00:04, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Cambridge University Catholic Chaplaincy
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This is so cool!
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DYK nomination of Cambridge University Catholic Chaplaincy
Hello! Your submission of Cambridge University Catholic Chaplaincy at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Geraldk (talk) 13:21, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

PNG format
What is so bad about the PNG format? In my case, I can´t upload pictures in svg, but in png. I place a note to other users who see the collaboration to upload pictures in png (when no svg is possible) because they may upload another really bad format or not upload anything at all (specially if using really simple tools), in which case, a png is better than nothing. - ☩  Damërung   ☩   .  -- 15:13, 20 October 2009 (UTC)


 * PNGs don't scale without artifacts, and you can't modify the text. These font samples are purely vector graphics, and so should be in SVG format. I see little point in encouraging people to waste time making raster images when someone will have to re-make them as vector graphics anyway. See Commons:Media for cleanup. What exactly is preventing you from uploading SVGs? OrangeDog (τ • ε) 15:25, 20 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Is it not OK if I upload pictures in PNG? ...I don´t think they need the text changed in the future, and they look good to me in png (better than jpeg). Anyway, I´ve been using and familiarizing with inkscape, but how do I crop images? - ☩  Damërung   ☩   .  -- 07:35, 23 October 2009 (UTC)


 * It's not purely an issue of editabilty. The most faithful representation of a font (unless it's a bitmap font) is a vector image. A raster image will always be approximating at some scale.
 * There is no concept of "cropping" per se in vector graphics. However, under File -> Document Properties there is the option to "Fit page to selection". OrangeDog (τ • ε) 08:52, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Problem with Infobox font template
Please check out Talk:Literaturnaya for my attempt at explaining the differing syntax in the Infobox font template. Obviously I didn't make myself clear before. --DThomsen8 (talk) 23:51, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * See reply there. I hope my edits make things clearer. Not that if the template is to be changed, all the transclusions of it need to be updated reasonably quickly. Again, a reasonably simple task for AWB. OrangeDog (τ • ε) 00:10, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


 * So we leave well enough alone in the template code. I have installed AWB, but I don't quite understand how to make it work yet. I will try again later today. --DThomsen8 (talk) 09:58, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

File:Cambridge 1575.png
The full resolution version appears to be corrupted. It only downloads 216KB and only a strip at the top of the image is visible. If you have the full image, could you please re-post it.

Thanks

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.79.191 (talk)


 * I (and others) see no problem with the image. Perhaps it is a connection or bandwidth issue at your end? P.S. see WP:SIG OrangeDog (τ • ε) 09:15, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Font list item
In the list of typefaces (samples of...) the first sample image (second column) is too small in some typefaces, how can this be fixed? - ☩  Damërung   ☩   .  -- 19:35, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * By replacing the image with the proper sample - the title of the font, on one line. OrangeDog (τ • ε) 19:46, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, but even then, some are still too small, the first image was big so the typeface with it´s name could be very apreciated. The second image needs also a little more size (the first column is too wide), the line of the bottom in those images is barely distinguishable. In the past it was a standarized 199px... was that bad? - ☩  Damërung   ☩   .  -- 20:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Fixing the width is a very bad idea. If done, short font names (like "A") would huge while longer names (like "Ariel Rounded MT Bold") would be too small to read. Once all the images are replaced with the correct versions, everything will look lovely. OrangeDog (τ • ε) 19:12, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, I didn´t read this section... well, how about two rows for those? - ☩  Damërung   ☩   .  -- 21:38, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

I have found some other problems: one (the main) is that the use of this template makes the page run very slow (loading, editing, etc...), other is that locating a font is more difficult (for placing a new image or font (well... maybe this one is not musch the big thing)). I know we heve been arguing about the image size of the second column, but that can be solved within the template, so it has nothing to do with that. What is your opinion about this? - ☩  Damërung   ☩   .  -- 23:22, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The template is slow because of the title without disambig calls. These could be removed, with the side-effect of making the template a little harder to use. What do you mean by fonts are harder to find? OrangeDog (τ • ε) 19:15, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you think removing this parameter will make the page run smoothly again? In the past, we just used brackets "" to link to an existing article about the font or designer. I thought (maybe I´m correct or maybe not) that the use of that template so many times (one for each typeface) makes the page run very slow, which push me to ask: "Why do we need the use of a template?". It´s not that I want to keep nor remove it (just asking), I just want to improve the article.


 * About the other thing, well, the typeface sectons are now less spaced (which were in the past spaced by the "-" of each separation for the next row in the table). But this is not such a big deal. - ☩  Damërung   ☩   .  -- 19:33, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, it will definitely speed it up. If you want more spacing then just add extra line breaks. OrangeDog (τ • ε) 19:37, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Excellent, now the page runs nice and fast, now what about the size of the first image? My first suggestion is leave that space to change the image size manually depending on what image it is (like in the author space). - ☩  Damërung   ☩   .  -- 19:58, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Let's re-do all the images that need doing, then work from there. OrangeDog (τ • ε) 12:54, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I´ve been having trouble with that stuff of the images    The first problem was that I cannot upload an image with inkscape if I don´t have the font installed in my computer (only copy pasting from the reference's helper). But the second problem is that even when I manage to create an image with inkscape, the file does not upload (as shown in those previous examples), and I don´t understand why. I really tried to make SVG and even switch other formats into SVG (when first heared about this in the collaboration), but it just wont let me do it. -  ☩  Damërung   ☩   .  -- 15:37, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * isn't an SVG, it's just a PNG that you've re-named. You actually have to save it as an SVG from Inkscape. OrangeDog (τ • ε) 19:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * In that case, is not that I uploaded a png with an svg extension, what really happened is that I uploaded a file made in inkscape (as svg), but the image was not shown here in wikimedia (I dunno why), it appears as uploaded and everything seems fine, but the picture was absent. Then I tried to re-upload it into png (because svg wasn´t showing) and that error ocurred (it didn´t let me change the extension). There have been other cases in which I re-upload a file that was here in wikipedia (i.e. to split the image in two files like here:, ), that file was already in svg, but when I reupload, it forcibly uploads it as png. - ☩  Damërung   ☩   .  -- 08:55, 29 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Try converting the text to paths, then saving as a plain SVG. OrangeDog (τ • ε) 13:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)


 * ? - ☩  Damërung   ☩   .  -- 15:01, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Why all 'example 1' images shoud have the same point size? Doing that, the first column becomes very wide, and lot of pictures will have to be remade. --Woglinde 02 (talk) 23:28, 3 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Fine, do what you want. As you can see from my efforts, it only takes an evening to re-make the whole lot. OrangeDog (τ • ε) 15:18, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Anyway, I just wanted to know if there was a good reason to have them all in the same point size. For now, the second column is too wide, if you can edit the long images into two rows it could make it better, but images like the times new roman will no longer be in one row (as they still are, and perhaps more elegant that way), but I gues it´s not very important. My aim is always to improve. - ☩  Damërung   ☩   .  -- 05:17, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

A request relating to your post at Village Pump
Hi, I made a suggestion at the Village Pump to allow new editors to move pages from user space. So, far, most have expressed support for the idea. You expressed the concern about page move vandals. I agree that is a problem, I searched the Village Pump archives, and read about vandals involved - quite a mess. However, as Rd232 pointed out, if this proposal were enacted, it would not provide any new potential for page move vandalism. Sure, a newly registered editor could create nonsense in a user page, and move it to mainspace, but we allow newly registered editors to create new pages directly in main space. I see page move vandalism as the movement of established articles to new places, and this proposal wouldn't enable that (unless I'm missing something.)

Rd232 noted that for this to be approved, it needs to have broad support. I think a careful reader would realize your non-support is not really an issue, but if you were willing to clarify, I'd be in a position to claim it has support with no dissenting opinions. I'm not pressing for you to actually support, just to clarify that your concern about page move vandalism doesn't translate into opposition to this proposal (or if it does, please explain so I can address your concern.)

Thanks -- SPhilbrick  T  15:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Our Lady and the English Martyrs Church
Hello! Your submission of Our Lady and the English Martyrs Church at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Ucucha 12:51, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

FYI
You recently made a comment at Village pump (miscellaneous), a topic that I have moved to Village pump (proposals) to establish notability.--Blargh29 (talk) 22:59, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Editor Review: done
I have done an editor review for you at Editor review/. Sorry for the delay in getting one done - we are slowly catching up with the backlog!

Perhaps you could consider doing a review of another editor? It takes a bit of time (reviews can take anywhere from about 30 minutes up to 2 hours, depending on how many contributions the editor has made, where they have contributed, etc).

The ones marked with a * are those editors who have not been reviewed yet - if you want to review one of these, make sure you remove the asterisks in the parts indicated!

If you have not done a review before, you might feel more comfortable giving a second review to an editor - this will show you an example of a review that has been done, and show you the kinds of things that can be commented on.

I hope that you find the review useful. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions about it.

Regards, --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 14:11, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Wili
Thanks for your help, but I didn't see anything on the page you referred me to that would tell me if I had done the Wili page correctly. Could you take a look? Vchimpanzee ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 21:17, 27 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't see anything wrong with it. OrangeDog (τ • ε) 14:54, 28 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Vchimpanzee ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 17:24, 28 November 2009 (UTC)