User talk:Orangefoot

Meretz
The claim that it is the only Zionist and left-wing party is somewhat laughable, and also the fact that the claim is made by one of its own MKs (Nitzan Horowitz), means that this can no way be treated as a reliable source. Number  5  7  15:25, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


 * The claim that Meretz is the only Zionist and left-wing party is not laughable. It is the current state of affairs in Israeli politics. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? The Labor Party, HaTnua, and Yesh Atid are all defined as centrist. And Hadash is leftist, but non-Zionist. Sheli Yechimovich (head of the labor party) herself said that calling the labor party a leftist party is a "historical tragedy". (See this news article in Hebrew: http://www.haaretz.co.il/news/elections/1.1860121) I referenced that page, since it was the only source in english I could find that directly refers to Meretz as being the only zionist left party. If I find a better article in english that references it, I will change the citation (and I invite anyone else to do so).Orangefoot (talk) 15:44, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, for a start the Times of Israel ("The flagship party of Israel’s left wing") and Israel Today ("Polls have Israel's left-wing Labor Party") both refer to the Labor Party as being left-wing. Number   5  7  16:00, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, the current english-language press still refers to the Labor Party as left-wing. But for the upcoming elections, the Labor Party has clearly positioned and defined itself as a centrist party. Once the dust settles, and the stances of each party is clearly announced, I will change it back.

It's clearly inappropriate to have a section in the Meretz article on the 2013 election - we don't have sections for any other elections and the party and its list are covered in Israeli legislative election, 2013. Please read WP:RECENTISM (and also WP:BRD). Number  5  7  16:33, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Fair enough.

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