User talk:OrcadianCanadian

June 2008
Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to Cairine Wilson Secondary School has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thanks.  Vishnava talk  03:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without explaining the valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Please don't remove cited work without a valid reason. NuclearWarfare (talk) 00:25, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

The changes made to Carine Wilson High School were made at the request of the Principal Geoff Botting. Please call the school to confirm. Not sure how else to explain this to you. I did as requested and provided a valid reason in the edit summary and made the change again. The school should have some control of the content and at this time it is requesting the paragraph regarding the stabbing be removed as the information is now VERY OLD news and not constructive to the current generation of students both present and future. You may also contact School Board Trustee John Shea to confirm. Thank you.
 * Please stop removing referenced content. That a principal disapproves of it does not mean it is unencyclopedic. - SimonP (talk) 02:00, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Simon, I agree that the information is important and that’s why it is being kept on several other websites ... The CBC for instance... However, I don’t see any references to the recent rash of incidents that happen this past spring at other high schools in the Ottawa area that cause so much concern that the media refused to talk about it lest the problem spread to other cites. Do you not think that is encyclopedic? This problem did not happen at Cairine by the way.

The idea behind the removal of this information is for present and future students. We would like to focus on the positive aspects of the school and not the negative. A quick look at several highschool listings on Wikipedia show no disturbing information about those schools. I even checked out the very high profile RAPE and SUICIDE at Carleton University here in Ottawa and they are not noted on the schools profile. Both of these events have had extensive media coverage and are important to note. The rape for the changes made to the security procedures at the school and for the nationality of the young woman involved and all the issues with that. The suicide was also extensively covered and brought to light the issues of privacy and medical treatment on campus.

If the Wiki is not going report all negative events for encyclopedic purposes, then why is Cairine being singled out when they are trying to move on?

The school is presently in the midst of exams and then will break for the summer. However the Principal, Parent Council and the Trustee are all working towards a more balanced view of the school with a focus on our achievements rather than old problems that are not relevant anymore. The young gentleman that you are quoting has not been in the school since 2001 and probably has been out of the secondary system since at least 2004. The relevance is lost on the present generation.

Report on one bad incident, please report on all the others. Just recently several high schools in the Ottawa area had police stings and several students were arrested for trafficking drugs... again not a Cairine Wilson High school.

I implore you to allow us to delete the information. I will be forwarding your information to the Principal for his information. What he does with the information is his business.

Our exchange has left a very bitter taste in my mouth about the great work behind the Wiki project, especially from such an important person on the project such as your self.

If there was a piece of your life you were not especially proud of would you want it continually repeated every time someone looked you up with hopes of gaining a better education through your services? I think not.

Thanks for reading my long note.
 * I'm sorry, but Wikipedia has a policy of a Neutral Point of View. Focusing "on the positive aspects of the school and not the negative" runs directly counter to such policy. I agree that more of the incidents at other schools should be covered, but that is an argument for adding more content not for removing it. - SimonP (talk) 02:44, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Simon, Thanks for your comments, they have been forwarded on. I have asked for more information on Cairine Wilson to be developed and will submit it when ready. I am still disappointed that Cairine appears to be being singled out among its peers in the Ottawa region. It really is a great school = raising over $41,500 for Cancer in the Relay for Life project this year and over $150,000 dollars in the past 5 years. The participation in this event alone included over 55% of the current school population. The Students on the Leading Edge (SOLE) project has generated thousands of community services hours and help. There are many more projects and student achievements to cite, but one black eye has really hurt it in the communities eye. Reputations are easy to make and hard to break. With your Neutral Point of View Policy we will attempt to work with the guidelines. Thanks