User talk:Orderinchaos/Archive 02

Archive 6 : February 2007

Heathridge
I'd say the uncleared land around Pinaroo and Craigie open space would be very similar to what was in heathridge. Gnangarra 15:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll get back to you on this. I just had a few spare moments and thought I'd blue some of the red species article at Hamersley, and - surprise - Melburnian did them all yesterday! Hesperian 01:23, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * No, it does. As the common name of a plant, "Heath" usually means Erica, which doesn't occur in Australia. But "heath" can also refer to a form of vegetation - see heath (habitat). WA has extensive heath, mostly proteaceous and myrtaceous. The Stirling Ranges is mostly heath, for example. Hesperian 01:36, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Heathridge's vegetation belongs to the "Cottesloe Complex". The Atlas goes into detail about the Complex's sandplain vegetation composition, but only makes passing mention of "closed-heath on the limestone outcrops". I don't mind digging around for specific composition if/when its important enough to warrant the effort i.e. FAC. Until then, rest assured that all Australian heath (other than our alpine heath) is Proteaceae and Myrtaceae with a bit of Fabales thrown in.

I think you've got a reasonable narrative there: it was called "Heathridge" because it is/has a ridge of limestone vegetated with a closed heath. Hesperian 04:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Palm Island, Queensland
Hi, I noticed you put the images back into a gallery style. This is not a preferred option apparently, I am working on putting them into an actual table. I think the image how-to is where I read, not to use the gallery tags. Garrie 05:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for all your great contributions to the Palm Island article over the past couple of weeks during its term as the Collaboration, I think it’s amazing how much it has been improved to this point. It was probably at Stub level when we got into it, now I think it would be competitive for Good or A Class article and perhaps over the next few months it will get up to the standard of Feature.


 * There’s only one day left of it being the Collaboration so if we have any last ideas as to how it can be improved lets be bold and get into it now. But most of all I just wanted to thank you for all your work and help before it was finished. Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 08:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Orderinchaos, could you please have a look at, I'm pretty sure I got it right but since this is a touchy subject I was hoping you could give it the once over to make sure it accurately reflects the article. Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 17:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, you don't think that him knowing Hurley personally is significant? I didn't include his comments about bashing police up to that point for your exact reason even though it was significant (ie controversial) news at the time. But the fact that he seems to be the first person to provide an independent account of the (police)man himself seemed to me to be significant, particularly as it was an aboriginal activist saying Hurley was not a racist. WikiTownsvillian 22:57, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure but I think I've found the connection, this is a quote from "Injuries left Palm body `unrecognisable', activist says" in the Oz 13 December 2004 p5:


 * "Mr Yanner said he and other relatives of Doomadgee saw the extent of his injuries as they helped prepare his body for his funeral on Saturday."


 * and the original articles under discussion calls Yanner the 'blood brother' of Mulrunji so there may be an actual linkage, I just presumed at the time that blood brother was a euphemism for 'fellow Indigenous Australian', but the fact that he is identified in the second article as a 'relative' in the mainstream context may indicate that he is more than just an activist on the other side of the state. WikiTownsvillian 01:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Meetup
I realise if I had no other there I could have bored you silly for hours re some our previous email conversations and others - maybe we meet up at SRO/Battye on a free day once youre at uni? Anyways it was good meeting you ! SatuSuro 07:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

blank the link blank the link (bit like put the cat out, put the cat out )- cripes if the wrong hands got onto that one, we'd need more than a few pints at the next meetup! SatuSuro 14:44, 2 February 2007 (UTC) link the blanks blank the link (keep the leopard in, watch the wallabies while theyre loose goose SatuSuro 04:04, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Bold park thingy - I have a deep suspicion that there are many links to be made here - maybe an extended conversation - I have dads taxi stuff v soon - maybe later...SatuSuro 10:08, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Ta for the headsup on the cons council - moondynes talk has my aims for the next week or so - would appreciate any ideas on other groups or ideas... SatuSuro 14:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

North Queensland Wikiproject
Hi Orderinchaos, thank you for the offer, I was more looking to set up a North Queensland Stub template to put on North Queensland related stubs, the reason I went for North Queensland is because it's boarders are easier to define in two words, however Townsville seems to need an explanatory note wherever it goes (there would not be room for that on a stub notice). I'm not sure if a separate North Queensland Wikiproject would generate interest from anyone other than current members of the Townsville Wikiproject and that doesn't have people knocking down our door to get in... I don't have much preference between a Townsville or North Queensland Wikiproject, but I don't think having both of them would be of benefit and I'm happy with it as it is until it gets more interest and we can spread to the whole of North Queensland, maybe if you post the same message to the project's talk page others will have a different opinion. Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 09:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Adoption
I'm in need of help from an experienced editor on Wikipedia. Would you kindly accept me as one of your adoptees? Balikem 06:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * would you please be my adopter? Moondisaster 12:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)|

Kain (Band)
The article has already been put up for speedy and contested by someone other than the author which is why it now has a prod. The prod tag was placed on the 2nd and expires on the 7th. The only reason to remove the prod would be if you are contesting it. Nuttah68 17:47, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It was not an accusation of vandalism, if it had been I would have tagged as such, but information pointing out how what you did to the tagged article can be seen. Looking over your recent contributions I notice you have replaced the prod with a speedy on a number of other articles. You may want to revert these and allow them to run the due process laid out at WP:PROD. Nuttah68 18:05, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Please help the Stephanie Adams page.
Why does one person who only has a few sentences about her receive so much animosity from a few bitter individuals? And why are there so many references on the page about her when other pages don't require any?

If you take a look at the history of the edits on the Stephanie Adams page, you will see that User Sean D Martin and now User LexiLynn are making personal attacks against other editors and even the person the article is about.

If they feel so horribly about someone they do not even know (including Stephanie Adams), then perhaps they should refrain from editing the page about her, removing important information added to the already small article.

And if they cannot write objectively, or if they cannot refrain from bad etiquette on Wikipedia, then maybe you should block or ban them from editing.

Please note that User Sean D Martin is involved in a smaller lawsuit Stephanie Adams filed against his friend, making him have a direct conflict of interest and should not be editing the article on her.

Cle0patr4 08:12, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

P.S. From what I did manage to read, it sounds like Jim Wales spoke to her (or someone who knows her) once before and resolved a matter quite similar. I doubt this lady is a bad person and it's a shame others seem to be so jealous/hateful of her.

CoS P&G
The P&G guys are worth contacting think I met them up at Lulfitz nursery in December, if its the same guys they'll be right into the erradication and will have documentation that can be used as a source. It'll be either a trail area or CoS policy for all affected reserves this be written some where. Gnangarra 13:31, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Culla - GA status
I placed the review for review at Good_article_review as images arent a requirement for GA. This is why GA is still not accepted as a stage in the rating scale as the people reviewing dont follow the criteria properly, I tend not to waste my time with articles going there anymore. Gnangarra 03:57, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Ivanhoe
Saw your comment on hesps talk page and went there straight away - looks like theres a problem - did my bit... hope it calms down. When in doubt - try to encouyrage them to ask an admin to blank the offending page - and try to reassure...SatuSuro 13:32, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * He's freaked that some idiots obscneities are still there in the history - admins have the capacity (but need tthe will to do so as well) to blank such parts of the history - it has been done... SatuSuro 13:45, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * HEsp fixed it this am -(ivanhoe that is) as for freds havent followed i up - just spend my time trying confuse him or sort out hows he confused me :) SatuSuro

copvio
Thanks for the message. I have already slapped a speedy delete on it. Hopefully the admin will track down all the associated images and remove the noncompliant. I hope I did this correctly. Hamersley is looking really good, btw. Best regards, Fred 02:18, 10 February 2007 (UTC) e. re. this Fred
 * Yep, thats all you can do with the image, an admin at commons will delete shortly. I've removed the image from the article, if you were unsure that it was you'd put a notice in the image description(in all articles its in) saying that the image is a suspect copyvio see image page for details. Gnangarra 02:45, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Hammersely review
I noticed you are asking for reviews from outside as to the Hammersely article. I'd recommend User:Worldtraveller, Hesperian and myself have had disagreements with him at GA criteria and its interpretation, yet he'd give you a totally honest and independant review of where the article is at. Gnangarra 02:52, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Perth Roads infoblock
Didn't notice any issues in talk pages, however I feel that those blocks would be best there until they decide what to do. That means they can better identify and cleanup these pages in full when they go to remove it (as it may allow them to see harmonisation issues with article formats and such). thewinchester 02:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Email re this SatuSuro 04:00, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * gawd, at least youre using awb - my watch list seems to have only half of them - how remiss of me ! :)  cheers! SatuSuro 05:28, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Template is much better now; thanks. Hesperian 10:29, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

user boxes
you should add User 9 000e to your user page, I also think an earlier discussion to wait for Hammersely is now obsolete. Think maybe your cupboard needs to include some new equipment. Gnangarra 12:15, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * db done- for those you dont need to be so formal just ask who ever is on Gnangarra 12:50, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * done Gnangarra

Cooks river photos
Hi, as mentioned at the project page these GIF's are probably the originals from which the JPG's used at Cooks River were created. I don't know the policies for image deletion but I am guessing, a pretty crappy JPG can be kept as long as it is used in an article. And a high quality, high resolution (high file size, bandwidth consuming) bitmap, will be deleted as soon as someone turns it into a crappy, lossy jpg and links the jpg in place of the bitmap.

Garrie 23:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Culla
Geography section looks fine. I gave it a light copyedit, creating a number of red links in the process. I'll take responsibility for blueing them (and I haven't forgotten about the Karrakatta Sand red link at Hamersley). I'll also have a look at what the Atlas of Natural Resources says some time this week. Hesperian 23:11, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Have created stubs on Gnangara Mound, Water Authority Act 1984, Water and Rivers Commission and Western Australian Planning Commission. Only Bassendean Sand to go. You should have a read of Water and Rivers Commission and decide whether you really want the article to link there. Hesperian 00:05, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Aargh bassendean sand! the greyest most useless ingredient on the planet short of sandy desert sand! SatuSuro 12:28, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

2 am edits
I have family that would not cope with me doing that - but brilliant time for the west edit! I bet not a single pesky australian vandal in sight at that time! :) SatuSuro 22:40, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * As for land values - yeah something has an odour somewhere (or was it smoke) - when the sale in darlington for over 1.5m. went through from memory in data after  there was nothing in the stats that  really reflected that - was it because  it was a private sale in one  - maybe the system is inconsistent? unless there were a lot of lower sales in the same month? SatuSuro 22:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah my pet hate housing price avaerages based on sales results, this is why burb like pepigrove,nedlands,dalkieth experience regular -negative growths. Gnangarra 02:26, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

suburbs

 * ). I had been meaning to fix those broken links, but never bothered. Thanks Rimmeraj 04:48, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

your offer to help
yes please any help would be great like i said before i done what i was asked to do and i got told off by WikiTownsvillian, it was all going well until yesterday. thank you for your offer. Thuringowacityrep 23:45, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * TCR you were not told by anyone to continue changing pages, we were at the stage of the arbitration where Amerique was going to consider what had been said so far and to do further research for himself about cities in Australia, we were to wait for his further communication (granted that was a week ago). Now I'm happy to forget about yesterday, but you need to understand that what really boiled my blood was you going back to your practice of making controversial edits and hiding them by calling them 'minor changes' or 'fix errors' or whatever, they may be errors in your view but you know very well that they are the subject of a dispute.  When you do that I have to go through each and every edit you make to make sure your not being deceptive and trying to gain ground in this dispute without anyone noticing, this is behaviour I have told you repeatedly is not acceptable, it's wasting my time and to be frank I don't want to be your nanny.


 * Thank you for your offer Orderinchaos, unless Amerique comes back and objects I would be delighted for this dispute resolution to go back to a formal process. Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 00:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

It might be of assistance to look at the original dispute resolution page AMA Requests for Assistance/Requests/December 2006/Thuringowacityrep WikiTownsvillian 00:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


 * (Discussion continued on Thuringowacityrep's talk page as that was the agreed location previously) Orderinchaos78 01:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

hi i just done a large clean up as did another editer would you be able to have a look at it now and tell me your views on the the page and what you feel may need changing or removing plus if you can have a look at the edits i have done on the pages relating to the Townsville/Thuringowa Vs Townsville and Thuringowa dispute, i have also asked WikiTownsvillian to look over the Thuringowa page and let me know his thoughts thanks again Thuringowacityrep 02:02, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

hi thanks for your idea but the problem is that this info about the Hospital location came from the Thuringowa Mayor when i was talking with him, he has no plans to have a hospital built anytime soon (as it says) and when he feels that there is a need he will contact the people he needs to, so he has never said anything about this to the media or the public i'm the only one that knows, so can you tell me of a way that this info can stay as i feel that it is important and it is a fact. thanks Thuringowacityrep 07:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Orderinchaos, is there a reason this has stalled again? This dispute really has gone on for long enough... and I'm keen to get back to working on Townsville pages.  Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 06:30, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

The dispute is on most articles that are related to either Thuringowa or Townsville, the best examples would be to read the arbitration section of TCR's usertalk. He made edits on February 8 to the following articles: edit 1 -Townsville, Queensland edit 2 -Shopping in Townsville edit 3 -List of schools in Townsville, Queensland edit 4 (the first) -Media in Townsville edit 4 (the second) -List of medical facilities in Townsville edit 5 -Electoral district of Mundingburra edit 6 -Electoral district of Thuringowa edit 7 -Electoral district of Townsville I then commented on each of the edits at; User_talk:Thuringowacityrep and TCR responded to my responses. TCR then edited Townsville Bulletin on 13 February claiming that it was part of this process. I would have the same objections to that edit as I had to his edits at Media in Townsville. Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 07:32, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :)
Thank you for helping me out yesterday! I am thinking a lot more clearly about some things I think, just take it as it comes, you know. And thanks too for showing me around the library, hopefully I can get some red links cleared up now :) Dont forget to do those two councils ... I am so going to hassle Nungarin about not having a web page next time I am there. LOL DanielT5 01:09, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh cool you did the Campion District ones :) (well, all but one of them) DanielT5 09:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Karrakatta / Bassendean Sand
I've unlinked the Karrakatta Sand and Bassendean Sand links at Hamersley and Cullacabardee]]. As you know I've been working on biogeographic regions. Have done Esperance Plains, Mallee and Warren. Will do Avon Wheatbelt and Jarrah Forest next. Then a rewrite of Swan Coastal Plain. At that point I'll tackle soils of the Swan Coastal Plain, and only then will I be in a position to decide whether Karrakatta Sand should link to Karrakatta Sand, Soils of the Swan Coastal Plain, Swan Coastal Plain, Swan Coastal Plain, or what. That could be a month or so away, and I don't want to hold up any FA/GA plans in the interim, so I've unlinked them for now.

Hesperian 07:42, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Images
The first is certainly a species on Eucalyptus - probably something obvious like Jarrah or Tuart, but I'm no expert and can't say right now. I will have a look in a book tonight and see what I can do. The second is definitely a coastal wattle (Acacia) - probably Acacia xanthina, but I'm not confident enough to use it as an image at that article. The third is typical jarrah-banksia woodland, one of the most common vegetation types on the Swan Coastal Plain. The fourth is almost certainly Banksia prionotes (Acorn Banksia); it is one of the Crocinae at any rate; and yes we'd be happy to take it (and the fifth) for the Banksia project. Hesperian 23:11, 19 February 2007 (UTC)


 * 3527 - on first glimpse could have been on a road behind mundaring weir and the light bark trees wandoo - but augusta - yeah - the typical karridale ferns at ground level and of course the white bark karri SatuSuro 23:23, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * 5100 - the banksia to the right, the jarrah to the left and i did detect on closer look a radio or power pylon at rear left... hmmm typical intrusion of twentieth century technology on some poor old sandflat/sandplain landscape... SatuSuro 23:31, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah that one was taken in the tower reserve - I was trying to get a "typical vegetation shot" for that area. Orderinchaos78 02:13, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

yep
Yeah I was just looking for some help on the shires and the infobox thingies... I got some info on Bonnie Rock (Mukinbudin) from the library down here DanielT5 09:51, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * no no I meant fix the other ones from that site I found. I think it should include all towns and localities but we only have to link the ones that actually go somewhere (or will) Thanks for doing Merredin though :) DanielT5 10:38, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * don't worry I fixed it. DanielT5 11:14, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey the Nungarin stuff arrived today :) I don't know how much is usable though, it is just a tourist brochure... but has some info ... and the shire logo of course DanielT5 09:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Already one step ahead of you mate :) The lady said she would talk to some people there and see if they could do that. At worst they can send the pictures to you or me but I don't know what the copyright situation is even if they say it's OK?? DanielT5 11:39, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

AC, Perth
Thanks alot for the pointer, and the article does look alot neater/nicer without the reference marks - im just not sure where to find any more references from - there are limited texts on the subject, and i have exhausted EVERY primary source available, ive even done a google search and gone through about 30-40 pages of links. Any ideas? btw, thanks for all the help Smbarnzy 10:34, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

ADVOCACY
Your Wikipedia name is perfect for the Stephanie Adams discussion, or should I say, hate campaign. User Sean Martin in particular keeps committing sneaky vandalism by removing facts in the article pertaining to a lawsuit Adams filed, separate from the lawsuit she filed against his friend James Poling. I'm not saying you should ban him from Wikipedia, but his personal interest in distorting this article, and defaming the person the article is about, is reason alone to ask him to refrain from editing this article. In addition, LexiLynn should be warned to stop making personal attacks about the person in the article. If she has that much bitterness towards someone she does not even know, and is clearly jealous of, then she should find another discussion to frequent. I thought Wikipedia was about objectivity, not personal attacks and hate campaigns. 72.89.106.24 02:27, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I would look at the talk page first, this user who wrote to you called other users "demonic, miserable, low-life sidekicks" and "haters" who "probably wish they could be with her". Also reverted my best effort to make a factual article out of it. I wrote to them as well saying advocacy is not for banning people and so on. DanielT5 09:28, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Not clear to me at all why your choice of name would get you dragged into this. But if a morbid curiosity leads you to look at it, please, by all means, do review the history of the Stephanie Adams article and related talk.  You will not find a single place where I made any "sneaky vandalism".  Every edit I made is signed and explained.  Every edit I made is specific and makes the article more factual.  I have made no distortions in the article.  When my edits have been reverted I have refrained from editing the article and instead used the Talk page to ask for other opinions.
 * Ms Adams, on the other hand, continues her campaign of personal attacks on anyone who edits the article and deliberately repeating false info. It seems if anyone actually asks that a legitimate reference be provided for the info she insists on including, well, they should brace themselves for vitriol.--Sean Martin 11:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Continuation of Palm Island
Hi Orderinchaos, just for your info I think I've just landed myself in another dispute at the Talk:2004 Palm Island death in custody page. I have created a Mulrunji article to try to resolve the issue however I don't think this has been successful. I think me and my hot headedness might have made matters worse here :-/

Just a heads up as you've been involved in this issue previously. Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 14:27, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the advice, I think I will self revert (although all he has to do is look at his watchlist to see the comment) as I don't want to pick a fight where one might not be necessary, I'll just see how he reacts to my reversion I guess. Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 14:48, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi again, would you be able to help me out with the note at the Mulrunji article, I can get the note section to link to the reference in the article, but not from the reference in the article to the note which is obviously the more important of the two. I have never done a "Notes" section additionally to a reference section so I'm a bit unsure and the tech support policy (Footnotes, Help:Footnotes and Footnote3) was not very clear to me as to how to do it.  Thanks again, WikiTownsvillian 15:05, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Orderinchaos78, could you please help out at Village_pump_(policy). Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 13:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Orderinchaos, My internet connection has been extremely poor this week which has been preventing me using the media monitor or doing any other substantial online research on Palm, this situation will probably continue over the weekend. Just giving you the heads up that I will probably be unable to do as much as I want to towards the Good article process for Palm.  I would appreciate any help you can give in my absence, particularly as you are the only other person I know of who has access to an online media monitor. Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 07:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply to your Reply
Thanks for the RfC clarification. Wasn't certain I had that right. Trying hard to proceed appropriately (nose clean, as you say), despite (sigh) continual provocation.--Sean Martin 11:16, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikibreak
I'm out of here for a day or so (the real world is calling :). If you need to get in contact with me regarding anything I'm handling, leave a message and expect a response after my return. Thank you. --Orderinchaos78 14:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Mount Barker, WA edits
Thanks for your additions and edits to the Mount Barker, Western Australia page. I'm wondering if the changes you made to the population stats were from the 2001 census? There has been a significant change in the population in recent years as families leave farms but "city-folk" move to the township. The original stats I'd posted (~1500 town, ~4600 region) were from the shire webpage.--AndrewD MBarker 15:27, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for the info. The figures are barely different enough to worry about so I'm really just thinking out loud more than anything but is it accepted practice to use census figures in favour of any other figures which could be referenced? Oh, and thanks for the comments on my efforts, I missed that earlier.--AndrewD MBarker 17:10, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

re. What the... (contd)
Hows that for a subject/headline. Regarding your comment, I concur. I hope that was clear from my rambling comment. Lets catch up soon. Best regards - Fred 04:09, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

NA
Thanks for that - having just found two parallel universes in a day or so - that was one - they creep through the fabric - and suddenly there is a heriarchy of arts/templates and things that have never been exposed to the cruel light of west oz editors and their swords of wisdom and their words of stone (ummm, err...)      :) SatuSuro 14:44, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Townsville and Thuringowa edits
hi no mate WikiTownsvillian seems to have gone all out to point them out i added some notes on the page but i will add one more thing WikiTownsvillian states: A3. Townsville, Queensland (7 January)
 * Located Greek festival specifically at a particular venue within Thuringowa.

what is wrong with this, the Greek Fest is at the new Thuringowa Riverway, Thuringowa i hate to say it but it is starting to look petty, so i will leave it all up to you thank you again for taking the time to help work this out. Thuringowacityrep 05:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * As I've said previously TCR I want to sort out all issues in this process so that we don't have any issues in the future, as for being petty... it's what I considered the pettiness and unconstructiveness of your editing that I found objectionable in the first place, although you have improved a HUGE amount since those days of course. Please don't take this process personally, we're just trying to sort out the issues, you don't need to offer solutions for individual edits until after we've resolved the general dispute. WikiTownsvillian 05:47, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * We're looking at everything basically, trying to cast the net as wide as possible. This isn't about punishing people or saying anyone is wrong, it's about attempting to develop a consensus about where to go from here, and it's necessary to some extent to review the past to see what the best options are. I should note that the above example was my factual review of exactly what was edited, rather than necessarily expressing a problem with it (it may well be in that case there is none, in fact, as the other one mentions Ingham). Orderinchaos78 05:50, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Reply to WikiTownsvillian - no worries i was just viewing my thoughts plus i'm not taking it personally i was just shocked that you put that edit in.

Reply to Orderinchaos78 - its cool... thanks Thuringowacityrep 05:58, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Majimup and Wagerup
Having just done a defendable new art on csnf (no speedy d's there thank god) I have started inserting reality into the two arts mentioned. would appreciate a once over or feedback if poss - ta, cheers SatuSuro 06:29, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * SWDF is now up as well SatuSuro 11:04, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Hamersley
I havent finished reviewing the article yet but I was ruthless with the Early HIstory bit. The reason for this is that even the last sentence acknowledged (after 3 paragraphs) that no development had really occurred, what's more important was the development after 1967, so I cut and pasted that section to User:Orderinchaos78/Hamersley stuff. Locations K and 1315, I looked up the area they cover in the Streetsmart and thats a huge chunk of land! What I think you should do given you're in the mood for writing FAs and you've got all that stuff there, is to write a History of the Northern Suburbs of Perth (I dunno something like this?) and do the lot. Hope this is OK. Oh yeah, and I referenced the Aboriginals and put in a bit of colonial info from the book you cited, C. library had it DanielT5 11:03, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Can I
ask a favour of you? I am happy to ask someone else if you would prefer or are busy. - Fred 12:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC) Cheers. I bet you are a good multitasker. Email in 5 minutes. - Fred 13:03, 24 February 2007 (UTC) Done. Cheers - Fred 13:32, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Soldier settlement (Australia)
Hi Orderinchaos, soldier settlement schemes directly influenced every state of Australia and have a direct link to irrigation commencement etc. These schemes opened up vast quantities of (amongst other places) Western Australia. Until today there was no article on Wiki covering the topic. I have started it and have also suggested it to be a WP:ACOTF article - would welcome your support if you think that such an article is appropriate for a collaboration project? -- VS talk...images 02:11, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Rockingham and Mark
I dropped a welcome note on the editors talk page will keep an eye what happens from here, Enjoy your break Gnangarra 15:24, 27 February 2007 (UTC)