User talk:Orderinchaos/Archive 03

Archive 7 : March 2007

Aahh
The smell of AWB in the evening, wafting across the watch list... aahh ... SatuSuro 10:12, 2 March 2007 (UTC) I suppose you know the original - in the movie about vietnam? SatuSuro 10:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Very impresssed by your sanity on recent afd discussions ... reflects well on your reasoned disposition! as for the unmentionable editor, I have no faith in any sign of improvement SatuSuro 02:42, 3 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Your query - henriatta has heaps on hope valley (well more than nothing ok) SatuSuro 08:23, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Sotuth lake is more of a problem - trawl in unwanted things - need to do qualifiers - and atwell even has more than one page - good old henrietta she is spurned by most - but she has it!  cheers :) SatuSuro 08:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * hear hear well said - they needed that the tothersiders !SatuSuro 11:26, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Elegant
What a great idea. So simple too. Huh? Your last edit with the useful comment. I'm going to start doing that. Cheers, - Fred 11:04, 2 March 2007 (UTC) I used it, I'm always losing bits and pieces like that. Usually it is stabs in the dark at template names, sometimes with surprising results. Thanks again. You won't need luck with your FA, but I wish it anyway. - Fred 12:16, 2 March 2007 (UTC) Re. e; rply→OiC. rgrds Fred

Hamersley, Western Australia
Consider your back patted and a Coopers in your hand - a deserved star - Peripitus (Talk) 08:35, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, well deserved. - Fred 09:36, 3 March 2007 (UTC) Replied to e. Had a look at the view. It seems ok. - Fred 10:26, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well done. Hesperian 10:33, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Congrats OIC, bloody great effort. thewinchester 15:26, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice work OIC. A new benchmark for suburb articles. &mdash;Moondyne 15:35, 3 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Ditto, choice article cheers, Casliber | talk  |  contribs 05:06, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Belated well done Gnangarra 11:28, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much guys :) I really do appreciate it! I'm glad to see my bit of effort in the State Library and the Records Office paid off for all concerned - I now have a greatly enhanced understanding of this part of Perth. The contributions by several of you were fantastic - especially those responsible for the Natural History section and the people who reviewed my wording and construction. I owe a few people a shout at the next meetup, I think (for those of you not in Perth, consider yourself virtually shouted) Orderinchaos 11:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Dryandra Woodland
Thanks so much for your comments and feedback. Its totally your call what to do with it re GA. I would completely understand if you'd prefer to pass it on to another reviewer or wanted to leave for a while. I'm in no burning hurry. Somehow I don't see it being a FA type of article though but maybe I'm a bit too close to it. &mdash;Moondyne 04:34, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

B. brownii
Good question; I don't know. I used to read it as "brown-eye" but at some point I switched over to "brownie-eye". I'm fairly certain "brown-ee" is wrong. I'll ask Cas. Hesperian 04:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Depending on my mood, I'll say "brownie-eye" or "brown-ee-ee". In english latin there are no rules, though there are enough pedantic scholars trying to tell us otherwise. I did Latin for 6 yers at school and it is so different that I pronounce it however. Correctly the sound 'eye' is -ae in latin, whereas a long 'i' is 'ee'. I alwys say Petrophile to rhyme with 'paedophile' which amuses or annoys some plant friends of mine. cheers, Casliber | talk  |  contribs 05:05, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

AGF
Yeh, he removed two templates from the Aquinas page, so i warned him, then he reverted back to his version, and i warned him again, and now he has started on the JSHAA page and i have to keep reverting. =( its so silly - this wikipedia business =) its almost amusing. i told him that if he has a problem with anything ive said to him, to talk to me on my talk page before making any reverts etc etc. But thanks for the notes SMBarnZy 12:27, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Today then?
Hesperian 03:48, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

RfA
 Moondyne would like to nominate you to be an administrator. Please visit Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Moondyne to accept or decline the nomination. A page has been created for your nomination at Requests for adminship/. If you accept the nomination, you must formally state your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so. Hesperian 06:17, 6 March 2007 (UTC) (on Moondyne's behalf - he had to step out)


 * Best of luck/break a leg SatuSuro 06:19, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm back now but now Hesp is offline. Accept and answer Q's as soon as you can OK? &mdash;Moondyne 07:42, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Done - and thanks all :) Orderinchaos78 07:45, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice answers. Good luck. &mdash;Moondyne 08:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Congrats on the nomination. thewinchester 10:17, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Removing votes
I should have known... most of Wikipedia is filled with nice people. I'll be happy to support your RfA. Good luck! Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 08:30, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Irrigation in oz
the current acotf is this one - wondered if you hd a squiz in your oh so plenty free time :) SatuSuro 22:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Non Sequitor
Yes, but:

2003 George Temple Poole Award

 * Project: Western Australian Maritime Museum
 * Architect: Cox Howlett + Bailey Woodland
 * The Western Australian Maritime Museum is an exceptional work of architecture produced for a highly significant and sensitive site. As urban design, the building artfully manipulates form, scale and expression at many locations in order to address the complex cultural and physical context and complex brief of the modern museum.

Belgrade
Hello. Thanks :o) Well, I think it was worth fighting for...especially if the guy who proposed it for deletion really plans to delete all the neighborhoods he has never heard off. I was surprised that an Australian was among the first in the debate :o) Yes, foreigners tend to like Belgrade...I am glad you had nice time here. PajaBG 21:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I didn't mean to offend any Australians, just thought it is a strange that someone so far away reacts :o) My net experiences with the Australians (since...1998) have been always pleasant. Anyway, if you wish we can stay in touch so I could show you around when you come again. PajaBG 20:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks. You can find me on MSN by pajabg@hotmail.com. Take care PajaBG 21:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Federal leader pics - now legit pics!
Take a look at 1975 to 1996 elections inclusive. Thank Janine Haines - her googling brought me to the PEO site! :D Timeshift 08:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well it is now a pointless revert war :P Timeshift 09:13, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Take a look at the standardisation i've implemented for federal elections 1972-2004 inclusive on Template:Politics of Australia... i'm happy with where it's at for now, but that bloody 1990 page sticks out like a sore thumb! How do you reckon I would go about forming a second concensus? Timeshift 08:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * He thinks there was anyway :P But with the tables i've now got, it clearly shows all figures including 2pp and who won, and who was PM and opp at the time. I think my version is far better :P (I re-added it :P) Timeshift 09:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Bates
Testing your memory here nut we had a discussion re Daisy Bates claims of cannibalism. I found a quote from A. O. Neville in the Daily news 20th February 1928, "There has been no actual evidence of cannibalistic activities by aborigines in western or central australia" this was in response to Bates sending some aborigines to perth claiming they had a bag stained with humans blood and a skull. You can find interesting things in old papers, the daily news during that period on every tuesday reported who registered a vehicle, where they lived(actual address), type of vehicle and the registration number of the vehicle. But what I was looking for was info on the centenary events so between january 2 1928 and feb 28 1928 there was only one reported(16/2/1928) request for people with associations to national organisations to request they hold an event in Perth during 1929 to which the will offer travle assistance for those attending. Gnangarra 13:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Seeing hes just officially quit/gone quiet for two weeks - i think the committe that are named along the road in kings park - some of the 1929 plans actually started in 1927 (clue number one) and they would have more likely been reported in the west not the daily. sigh SatuSuro 14:24, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I assumed that since one member of the committee was also editor at the west, that west would be inundated with information where as the daily would limited to more significante events. Gnangarra 07:43, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Apologised at his talk page for my judgemental comment SatuSuro 09:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Would you mind helping?
I am trying to start a wiki that is focused on wrestling and video games. I figured that since it uses the same design as Wikipedia (MediaWiki, or whatever it's called), that I could basically copy wrestling and video game templates like and , but they aren't working. Here is what I ended up with. Would you mind creating a few templates there? Specifically: Template:Infobox VG, Template:Infobox Wrestler, Template:Infobox Wrestling event and Template:Infobox Wrestling team since those are the only four I would really use. Thank you in advance. TJ Spyke 03:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

You
Hava way mate - all the petty quibbling and you simply provide the hard facts - makes the trivialists fade away with their own pov. Well done - and may you have a long and happy life as... SatuSuro 09:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I feel as though I've had it already tonight - a serial pest at battle of pinjarra playing with vandal bots and changng ip number in the middle - pity you werent up and running... SatuSuro 10:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Shire of Mukinbudin
thanks! :).. sure thing, you caught me at the right time. I hope this is ok, it comes out pretty large in the box - perhaps there is a way to reduce the image size? --Astrokey 44 14:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * ah i see.. thanks, i think that is a good size --Astrokey 44 14:57, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations
I'm pleased to inform you that you are now an administrator. Please read all the material on the administrators' reading list before testing out your new privileges. For instructions, please see the administrators' how-to guide. Best of luck &mdash; Dan | talk 08:07, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well done, good luck with the tools! The Rambling Man 08:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Woohoo! Well done. &mdash;Moondyne 08:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Look out theres another janitor in the wild west Gnangarra 08:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Congrats indeed :-D Timeshift 08:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It is well done from him and well done from me SatuSuro 11:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! I hope that you enjoy using the mop and bucket from now on! (aeropagitica) 15:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * goodonyamate. And goodonya for ditching the thankspam. Hesperian 23:09, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Congratulations. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Get mopping! Oh, and feel free to add yourself to this category of distinguished persons.--cj | talk 03:38, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well done!--Melburnian 12:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

WA regions
By the way, do you have any more information about the regions(?) used in the 19th Century WA you mentioned at Template talk:Infobox Australian Place:  Swan, Cockburn Sound, Canning, Avon, etc.. just that it has got me interested! --Astrokey 44 11:26, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I think they the same thing as the divisions described at : "In 1880 the state [WA] was divided into sectional plans". Here is a map another one --Astrokey 44 12:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Might I suggest Land districts of Western Australia? :) --Astrokey 44 13:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I have started Cadastral divisions of Western Australia (not sure if thats the best name but just to keep in line with the other articles). I dont know anything about the Location A, location 32 etc regions that you were talking about, perhaps you would like to add this information. --Astrokey 44 03:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah I see what you mean.. like how counties are divided into parishes (and i think some other even smaller divisions in Victoria too). thanks about the article, if there are any mistakes in the map let me know because on the 1909 map they seemed fairly obsessed with the goldfield boundaries and the lines look almost the same as the lines between districts. They didnt show the area around Perth too well either. Also, I dont know whether the districts are the same today as they were then, or if there were any new districts proclaimed in the east. --Astrokey 44 03:47, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Template
Hi there, I noticed your vote/comment at the TfD about the new template being rather on the large side. Just so you know, the original template as I intended it was meant to look like this, a nice and compact informative template, but some editors felt that a separation must occur on the lines of the old template hence the discussion on the talk-page. As you will find out, I disagree with the idea of creating separate sections infinitely (the subject of SSB is potentially very large) but I have to respect the majority. I thought you may like to go through the short discussion there and weigh in with any opinion you may have, it would be appreciated. Regards, Ekantik talk 02:52, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Although in all honesty it appears agreed to keep the separation, but I think your opinion would be worth noting nevertheless. Ekantik talk 02:55, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Aquinas College, Perth
Many thanks for your comments on Aquinas College. It was indeed a very confusing situation, especially when the editors have a proven past history of incorrectly promoting their article to a new status. The article does now appear to have gone through the GA process. I suspect the nomination will be challenged in due course. The editors have written at length on the school but in my view far too many of the references are to the school website, the school intranet (which is restricted access) and school diaries and handbooks. Very little seems to have been referenced from reliable secondary sources. I know very little about Australian schools so I will leave the matter to our Australian editors to sort out if they want to. Dahliarose 15:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
I thought it probably would be like that. so now I have done it. again thanks for the welcome. Farsouth 08:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Not worried
Not too worried about it. It was just so flippin ' bizarre. IvoShandor 11:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Thuringowa image
hi mate i will make the change now and if you have time to draw a new image, that would be great thank you Thuringowacityrep 01:24, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Personal Attacks
Excuse me but i did not leave any personal attacks on Ali K's talk page and have not sent any personal attacks or threats to this user at all. Please do NOT make such claims on my talkpage especially when they are not true - check your facts in future. (Bradleigh 03:51, 17 March 2007 (UTC))

Special Language
After watching talk on Satusuro's talk page, Im game enough to give this special language a go :P. ST is not needed, but I dont think I will be very favorable to afd it. Im not asking you to, just asking your opinion. Its times like these that I love people like you and Fred :) Thanks again, OIC. --Ali K 04:26, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

My RfA
Thanks for supporting my recent RfA. It was successful, and I hope to live up to your expectations. Shimeru 16:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

For your interest.
I certainly can't say I am a professional, and I have absolutely nothing to go off, but where there's a killer, there's a pattern. For your interest: User:Kitti-Kat01. --Ali K 08:46, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Infobox creation
infobox

Had a go at it but not quite right. Thought it might be worth making anyway. If someone can fix it up please do. Farsouth 09:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

thanks for that :) Farsouth 22:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

more help please
screenshot of problem

I put it in to a page i wanted to use it for but umm it did this for some reason? Farsouth 23:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Farsouth (talk • contribs) 23:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

all fixed. i worked it out. Farsouth 00:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Template challenge
I want a template Template:Age in years and days, based on a combination of Template:Age and Template:Age in days which returns something like "35 years 260 days". Would this be possible? I know I could use both templates side by side but I wanted to avoid having to enter the parameter values twice. &mdash;Moondyne 04:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Done by Hesperian. Thanks anyway.  &mdash;Moondyne 13:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Really away...
I will attend to any matters raised above and from now until Saturday on the 24th - am very busy off-wiki for the next few days moreso than I have been the last few (those who know reasons for it will totally understand why). The general wikibreak notice at the top for the 30th still applies. Orderinchaos78 13:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Try and enjoy your other life. And don't forget to come back.  Cheers. &mdash;Moondyne 13:16, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed - may reality serve you well... SatuSuro 06:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * As above :) --Ali K 07:11, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Before you go off for your wikibreak, I just wanted to thank you for your objective comments on Articles for deletion/Team Chaos; it was getting quite tense. Marasmusine 11:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Would you know where to start with this issue?--Fancyfootwork 11:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Fancyfotowork

Help-me, please

The article Seasons have a problem:

when I choose to Hide "Contents" the figure "http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Seasons.svg/266px-Seasons.svg.png" stay overlayed.

I suspect that my Browser ( Firefox 2.0.0.3 ).

Best Regards,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JCOlivie http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usário:JCOlivie

Boo
Where are you? Don't tell me you've got your head in another book :P Timeshift 13:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Please
Check my talk. Please watch the wee bairns...Unknown return day... SatuSuro 08:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Perth assessments
Perth, believe it or not, was next on my list to activate. I (perhaps incorrectly) assumed most of you WA folk had moved over to WP WA and your focus was there. I'll see what I can do a litle later tonight (within an hour or so, just getting the kids into bed for school tomorrow) and aim to get WP Perth up to date with the rest of them. :) -- Longhair\talk 09:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, I read your message again. And realise you made a good point. Perth assessments should contribute to the WA count, as Melbourne should contribute to Victoria etc. Currently, that isn't happening, but I dare say now the multi-level code is functional (and many thanks to Cyberjunkie for leaping ahead here and helping us out), it wouldn't be to difficult to arrange for that to occur. -- Longhair\talk 09:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * How's this example look (category-wise)?. Articles in relevant categories contribute towards statistical counts. -- Longhair\talk 10:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Exactly. There's a bug or two a coffee might fix, but it's close to the result you're after. A good idea :) Don't know why I didn't see this for myself :) -- Longhair\talk 10:24, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm close, but I'm going to have to let this slide until the morning. Feel free to assess any Perth related articles in the meantime. The basic code works. I'm just not happy with the result as is for now and will look into it in the AM :) Cheers. -- Longhair\talk 10:52, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * In reply to your email, see WP:CHU. -- Longhair\talk 21:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Emails
Need to be checked now LeBarn 11:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

number of divisions
thanks! :) perhaps it would be good to have a table in the article. --Astrokey 44 12:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

City of Darwin
Sorry about the redirect--I failed to make the distinction between City of Darwin and Darwin, Northern Territory on first reading. Finngall 18:53, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

thanks
thanks for the barnstar! it is fun making maps. by the way Image:Swan River Colony land grants map.png might interest you if you hadnt seen it already --Astrokey 44 00:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

GPT
As I learned the hard way, if you have a stake in a speedily deleted article, it is better to ask the deleter to reverse their actions, or get another admin to undelete it, rather than undeleting it yourself. That way, you maintain the illusion impression that admins only ever use their tools to enforce community consensus and standards, and never for their own ends. Having undeleted it, you ought to let Betacommand know what you've done. Well done for taking it to AfD though. (Don't stress about this, it is a minor issue, and BITE applies to newb admins too ;-) ) Hesperian 02:03, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Just looking the Annual report which is independently produced an certified as required by the ASX qualifies as WP:RS and WP:V as a primary source so you can use information from that to expand the article, though I would suggest you avoid future growth projections and only use it for past event material, asset value figures, profit and subsidiary type information. Gnangarra 02:26, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Smbarnzy
Anything you can do to help clarify the position would be helpful. I agree it was probably a misunderstanding and he created the account he wished to usurp. If that account confirms it is willing to be usurped, the usurpation can go ahead straight away (never mind waiting 7 days or the fact it has edits). But as it could also be a third party account interfering with his original request, he does need to clarify what he wants to happen... WjBscribe 03:32, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

My RfA
Thank you for support in my unsuccessful RfA. I appreciate the support, and am disappointed on being judged by what in most opinions seem to be the wrong things. Until next time, edit on! :) &mdash; RevRagnarok  Talk Contrib 03:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

New Username
Hey, this is Smbarnzy here! this is just a quick message to inform you of my change of username, i have decided (due to unforseen circumstances) to change accounts rather than usurp. All the best Twenty Years 06:08, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the unblock, sent you an email - disregard it Twenty Years 12:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that'll do. There may be more protocol to it, but you only need to follow protocol when you're on thin ice, right? When something is straightforward, use commonsense, and protocol be damned. Hesperian 12:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Æ
Just looked at your infoboxes for the first time. I also enjoy Ænima. Hesperian 11:32, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

RE: Rooves
Actually, it's not just limited to that article, it's always the same IP, and if you have a look, the same IP likes to vandalise other pages too... Anothermelbournite 11:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

RFA
Thanks for your support on my RFA, which ended successfully. Cheers! SGGH 20:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh
, I wish you hadn't :-)
 * Long story about a new editor. Will have a look. Will e you sometime soon. Fred 15:37, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The citation link is broke. Therefore, "not true". Fred 17:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Categorie question
What is the reason I see some cats on page having Categorie:Example|Name

Is there much benefit? Farsouth 11:12, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Something to laugh at
Sorry, haven't seen you online in a while so I thought i'd make sure you're alive. Have a laugh at this from BJAODN, hillarious. Fancy awarding this to some of the more annoying editors which cross our paths? thewinchester 07:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

email
DanielT5 13:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Adoption
Hi, I've been signed up for all of... two days now. Done a bit here and a bit there but I find there's so much the FAQ sections don't answer (always the questions I want to ask) and I'm generally to scared to be shouted at for wasting someone's time. I think I could do with being adopted. We're in totally different timezones but I've checked the list of adopter-type people and I seem to match best with you. Let me know, thanks Douglike 17:21, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Starting a Project
What do you think about me starting a wikiproject on the Public Schools Association? to better organise articles relating to the schools within the organisation? For this to work, what kind of supporter base would be required, because ive noted that there is a WP:Red Hot Chilli Peppers one, and i think it would make it easier for other PSA-school users to work together on related issues? Some thoughts.... many thanks Twenty Years 11:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

MiniProject PSA
Hello, you have been invited to join the Public Schools Association (PSA) MiniProject. More information on the project can be found at its homepage - User:Twenty Years/PSA. We would love to have you on board, thanks for your time Twenty Years 14:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)