User talk:Orderinchaos/Archive 04

Archive 8 : April 2007

not sure why you said that
I uploaded a page as I noticed that there wasn't a page on magic magazines and I made the effort to put up an impartial post about the various magic magazines including the newest one street magic magazine that has become the only public magazine of this nature and has an actual ISSN, whereas the others that are listed do not. I have no association with them whatsoever, yet these pages were all taken down by you. I simply do not understand that when some of the people listed under "street magic" have NO fame whatsoever in our community and are selfishly promoting themselves, yet they stay on and a link to a recongized magazines does not. I am new here and I wish to follow the rules, but I have to say, it has been an unenjoyable experience thus far. But for the record I have a LOT of knowledge about the magic community, whereas, few here do. I would have thought one would assume that it was in good faith, not the opposite. Would you be wiling to help me do this right? Thanks, TJ StreetMagic2.

yo
got time later today for a chat? Timeshift 05:26, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Spring cleaning
My - you have been busy - we need a gmail chat - could you please...the earlier alarums is passed - but I need to give you a link for something off..SatuSuro 08:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep I'm free. See email :) Orderinchaos 08:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * replied twice SatuSuro 08:24, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Front of School Image
Yeh, can you delete that one? coz its name is front of school, and its of the eight houses. We have an image of the house shields already. so yea, u can delete it, many thanks Twenty Years 10:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

User:DavidYork71
Greetings, please be aware that David York is avoiding his block using IP sockpuppetry as this edit and this revert (to his version) on a David York71 favorite article Islam and slavery demonstrates. This is not the first time he's edited from this IP range as this edit demonstrates (there he was commenting via that range on a 3RR report against himself). 13:47, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the SSP suggestion. Actually obvious sockpuppetry can be treated as such. This is an obvious case given that the IP is in a range that has previously been used by User:DavidYork71 and given that he reverted to his preferred version of Islam and slavery twice as the IP. I'll keep the SSP advice in mind for the future though. Cheers. 15:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * continues to utilize IPs for sockpuppeting. His latest IP: . 07:40, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I added to the report as well. I'm likely going to be motioning for a community ban of this user in the next few days given the increasing amount of problematic editing he is engaged in. 08:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Policy repository
Answer to one of your points - WP:POLICY is such a directory, and WP:5 is a shorthand link to core fundamentals which descends into the policies. Orderinchaos 06:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Ahhh. Thank-you for that. Finally. Sure, I haven't taken the time to look for a policy repository per se, but I still hold that it isn't very obvious and accessible to the uninitiated. One of my stronger points on constructive criticism on Wikipedia, is that whenever a policy is cited, especially on AfD discussions that a link is provided. There should be no nonsense of "This article is x, y and even G4" -- and innocent users will have no idea what G4 is because you didn't provide a link. Sure, we probably couldn't force people to give links to all policy that is cited, but in certain situations there should definitely be a notice that encourages it -- such as AfD discussions, Deletion Review discussions, etc.
 * Anyways, thanks for that. Cheers. Rfwoolf 08:47, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
for the talk page fix it was embarrassing! SatuSuro 14:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

TFA
IN case you missed it Hamersley will be Today's featured article/April 14, 2007 -- well done Gnangarra 03:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

shameless SP
for the wheat belt article this image maybe useful Gnangarra 03:10, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Ahh
The smell of the awb in the late afternoon - the watchlist populated by order, wave after wave... hope its not too painful! :) SatuSuro 09:02, 2 April 2007 (UTC) Wow and it keeps going - btw - doesnt Marradong, Western Australia smell like a ghost town category to you? I am sure Hesp would like to have more oz candidates... :) SatuSuro 10:51, 2 April 2007 (UTC) Well keep going - your contributions list is a great read for the likes of me... SatuSuro 10:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC) There is an email, the time is ripe the walrus said SatuSuro 08:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Mt Eliza
Thanks - I had no idea. --Commking 02:40, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Malber's images
Hi, just to make sure we aren't wheel-warring, when you (re-)deleted these two images:
 * Image:Hamptonbeachcasino.JPG
 * Image:Oversize tennis ball.jpg

were you aware of the thread at WP:ANI? I had previously undeleted these because they were bad-faith nominations by Malber, and potentially useful (at least one was still used in an article). In my understanding, G7 requests aren't mandatory if the contents in question are proper useful encyclopedic material, as the creators don't "OWN" them, and Malber was clearly on a POINT spree when nominating these. I probably made a mistake in forgetting to remove the bad-faith speedy tags after undeleting (thought I had fixed them all, but a few seem to have slipped through). Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:27, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Looking and leaping
I created a redirect via Porongorup Ranges to the national park. Is this appropriate? There seems to be two names and sometimes a plural. I've heard Porongurups also. Thanks, Fred 05:47, 6 April 2007 (UTC) BTW: Porongurups is used at Albany. e -> u

Second glance
Hi Orderinchaos, I've added a fair bit of info to the Palm Island articles this evening and while there is plenty more to go and I'm on a bit of a roll... I'm going blurry eyed, so will leave it for now. I would appreciate it if at some stage you can have a look over it just to make sure I'm still heading on the right track, I'm hoping that I haven't strayed into POV territory. Also the main article is getting too long so I/we may need to create some sub articles such as History of Palm Island, Queensland, etc. and then summarise what is currently there, not a task I'm looking forward to:) Ta, WikiTownsvillian 18:58, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for taking care of the sock. I'm going to extend David's block for block evasion. He's obviously not taking any of this seriously, posting to his own talk page with his sock is like thumbing his nose at us. Sarah 08:56, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Feeling tired, stressed, not clear? The talk page for Antractica might be just that (although I have alerted another admin before you) straw on the camels back ? SatuSuro 09:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Orderinchaos, the next sock of David is User:Amatullah33 --Aminz 10:05, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

13 April
Latest is User:Gerwani kind regards. --Merbabu 09:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: AfD for Alan Waddell
Hello, would you please re-review your closing on this? All three of the delete !votes were for article quality reasons, two of which specifically stated the subject oif the article was notable enough. with an equal number of keep !votes, it seemed a likely keep outcome. Jerry 00:59, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. Could you restore the article to my user space, so I have something to work off when I go to recreate a new article about the subject?  Thanks, Jerry 02:59, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I found it at User:Jerry/Alan Waddell. Thanks, Jerry 03:06, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello again, would it be possible to restore the talk page for this article to the talk page for the restored version in my user space? This will allow me to review the suggestion, objections and concerns of editors who may not have particpated in the AfD.  Thanks, Jerry

This article was closed before I had a chance to vote, and/or make the necessary changes to the article. How do I go about getting it restored? Thanks, JWaddell 07:31, 21 April 2007 UTC

convert
No problem. I felt sort of stupid making 5 subsequent edits to do one thing.. anyway, I actually found the article on the future FA list and I figured there'd be some good spots to use it in the article. I'm trying to "raise awareness" of the handy little tool.. it can do quite a bit. If you ever need any help with how to make it work for your articles (you can fiddle with the way it spells, abbreviates, the grammar it uses.. etc) just let me know. -- drumguy8800   C   T  22:20, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Happy Easter!
Hope you had a good break, did you get away? Im off tomorrow (to Singapore - will have net access once a day). Check out my talk, and shout me an email, if you want. :) --Ali K 11:36, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Info Box
Hey Orderinchaos,

can you please help to fix the infobox on the aquinas college perth page?

Your help would be appreciated.

What part of Perth do you live in? I'm in the southern suburbs

talk to symode09's or Spread the love! 04:29, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I need the infobox to be made wider and shorter so it fits accross the bottom, of the page.

thanx talk to symode09's or Spread the love! 05:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Stop edit warring on WA election 05
come on mate it looks like your just trying to prove a point about Joestella being a jerk about the infobox. but his version has more info in it. take a step back and try to find a compromise. no-one cares that you and Daniel are from WA, it doens't give you special powers on this page. ChampagneComedy 09:18, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Addressed on article talk page. Orderinchaos 12:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

User:Blandneutrality
Yet another sock. --Aminz 02:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Blocked by User:Sarah. Thanks anyways, --Aminz 03:39, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Next, ... this is related to the "autosodomy" article DavidYork71 created. 12:08, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I would delete the article per WP:CSD and the image he uploaded as well. 12:17, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed, it can be a bit tricky fishing those logics out of our brains. There's a redirect and another image to be deleted: Special:Contributions/BecauseHeCan. 12:24, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Cheers, thanks for the assist. 12:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Next,  11:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

58.163.156.215 sorry. Merbabu 05:51, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 16 april
 * Creative thinking? Merbabu 05:53, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Re Ali K comments
Is Ali K's illness of interfering into other peoples business contageous? I don't appreciate your comments, you have absolutely no idea of the whole situation between me and ali k, so do NOT butt in where you are not required to! Mind your own business, or is your life that boring that all you have in it is wikipedia?! BTW, i am fully over the ali k incident but i will not stop from defending myself against her allegations under any circumstances. (210.49.216.231 01:46, 11 April 2007 (UTC))
 * IP blocked as sock of blocked user Bradles 01. Hesperian 01:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Perth meetup
Thanks for that. That should work well for me, then. Just enough time to nip down and grab some parking at uni before my class. Thanks. - Mark 09:35, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Ross "The Skull" May
I was going to delete all the Ross "The Skull" May rubbish as A7, but you beat me to it. I don't think G5 applies because David isn't banned, he's just indefinitely blocked. I think we need to propose a community ban so we can G5 everything and get RFCUs done more easily. Cheers, Sarah 12:57, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

South Australian general election, 2006
Although I'm not moved by your references to the FA status this article once achieved, I am more than willing to discuss and rectify shortcomings in my own contributions to this article. I look forward to your constructive engagement here. For example, the level of detail on the parties and electoral systems are clearly out of place – agreed? Joestella 16:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I object to being accused of vandalism here. If you're worried about the edit summary, that had to do with the fact that while I was refining the text, you were intent on edit-warring. I apologise if there was any confusion. Joestella 16:18, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That is no excuse for hiding behind a misleading edit summary. "Rewrite council analysis" does *not* explain removal of two-thirds of the article, major changes to the lead and reformatting. It would justify two or three sentences at most. Orderinchaos 17:04, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Come now, OIC, you hid your revert as "mangled english issues in last edit". The reality is that this article is in a terrible state and is in urgent need of repair. I challenge you to rebutt more than a handful of the 23 most egregious problems I listed on the talk page. Joestella 17:41, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Did you actually *read* that edit? "Labor received a benefited from 3.7% primary swing, winning 4.39 quotas:" Our definition of egregious differs, you have a point on about 8 of them from what I can see, and I have never once said this article is beyond improving. User:Orderinchaos 17:44, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Reply
You can see what I said on and  if you are interested. I'm going to assume the blanking was an error and will not be repeated. I'm also going to assume that we've established that edits to a featured article should be treated with care. I'm not going to do anything administratively at this time; I'm going to monitor the situation for now.--Isotope23 17:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * As I said on talkpage... WP:DR might be the logical next step here.  Without diffs I'm not going to point fingers at anyone, but if there is long term disruption going on then mediation or a user RFC might be what needs to happen.--Isotope23 17:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I have an excellent record of adding, editing and improving articles across a number of subject areas. You may not like the changes I make, they may clash with your beliefs or offend your sensibilities, but you'll never get anywhere if your instinct is towards silencing your critics. I renew my call for you to work with me on the SA election page. Joestella 17:52, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Keep fighting the good fight
Wikibreak for me, keep fighting the good fight, all the best in your efforts. Timeshift 04:30, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Perth Meetup 2
Due to a foul-up, my WP email page was not activated which has now been fixed. As noted on the Meetup talk page, could you please email me with the details you'd like to have placed on your nametag. Firstnames and Usernames as a minimum, Surnames accommodated on request. Cheers, Thewinchester (talk) 14:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Awesome.
Hi there. Just logged on to see how things were going, Singapore is as good as ever. Nice work on Hamersley! --Ali K 01:10, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Train/railway stations
Yep I noticed that some didn't have the "apart" already. Having the word "apart" there makes it sound like the stations were forcefully separated from Perth Station at some point - I can just imagine that ... maybe that's the real reason for the delay on the Mandurah railway line? :) Graham 87 12:19, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah right - it's not like train drivers have any problems figuring out where they're going. They just need to follow the beaten track. I could almost do the job under most circumstances except for finding the right place to stop the train .. and maybe the signal lights ... Graham 87 12:31, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Wow! That's incredible - when driverless cars are affordable that will be a good thing. Graham 87 12:40, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

HELP!
Could you plz help me. I want to know how to create a userbox plz. Chicken7 05:43, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Hamersley on the main page
Good to see this one up there. Funny though how the almost 100 edits basically cancelled each other out. Some changes to the lead, updating of the house pricing and some style/wording referencing changes. A whole day of vandal-whack-vandal-whack with small edits in between makes me think that in some ways citizendium is onto something. Also, after watching the online episodes of Joe Versus the Volcano I'm glad I stay out of politics articles, as it looks like a good way to lose my remaining hair. Keep up the great work on articles and keep using those new buttons well - Peripitus (Talk) 12:43, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

DRV
Just noticed this when I looked at the closed AfD this morning. I see you changed your vote to "endorse deletion", someone else has come along and says "endorse closure" is the right wording. DanielT5 03:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Now addressed. (That's what I get for copying others. :)) Orderinchaos 07:12, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Advice needed
''Bit concerned by this one. A user appears to be cut-and-paste moving articles, then  within only a few minutes (and in the case of Hamersley, in the *same* minute) has changed links to them all over Wikipedia, even in talk page archives. Both users' talk pages and contribs suggest this has been an issue several times before - and with articles which are not even vaguely related, although some recent Sibenordy changes related to another main page featured article. I was able to fix Hamersley and the 25 or so changes with rollback within about 10 minutes of it occurring, but I was really, really unsure how to proceed as far as warnings or whatever, or letting the Wikipedia community know this might be an infrequent problem. Orderinchaos 06:39, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw this - you wasted a hell of a lot of time and effort undoing their crud. Buggered if I know what to do. Is it stupidity or malice? Does it matter?
 * I suppose the first thing to do is to ask them why they did it, and not to do it again. Then judge of their response. An inadequate response should be met with a block IMO, at least for the one that has had plenty of warnings. Hesperian 06:56, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. Thought you'd like to know I created Regans Ford, Western Australia today.

AfD review
Following your advice, I improved article Russia and Saddam WMD allegations. Could you take a look again please and decide if it is still not backed up by reliable sources? Thank you.Biophys 00:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Tuesday 24th SLWA Research Marathon
Sorry Mate, my boss has decided to take the day off which leaves me as the only soul on board and stuck here. Instead of then, how's the 27th for you? Thewinchester (talk) 07:55, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Just saying thanks for the welcome and for the bunch of helpful links. Andrew 14:40, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

maps
I was just going to replace the maps on lgas where map of the town is used where it should be a map of the lga, such as with Town of Port Hedland --Astrokey 44 09:49, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Template:Myanma elections
Hi. I've reverted your moves/changes related to this, as the template/articles are listed by adjective (Myanma) rather than noun (Myanmar) form. Number  5  7  12:15, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I can see your reasoning, but as it is one of 200 standard election templates (all using the same format - demonym + type + election) I think it should be left as it is. Number   5  7  12:34, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

barnstar
I keep seeing your name in the edit history of LGA articles!, so may I present


 * I could help with adding a map and the navbox thing.. I have started a couple of stubs with these like Shire of Dardanup --Astrokey 44 11:14, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

My RfA
Hi and thank you for your support on my recent request for adminship. Unfortunately, the request failed, however I aim to improve the concerns that were brought up and hopefully bring myself up to the standards of admin. Once again, I thank you for your support. -- Kz Talk • Contribs 12:37, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Deleting Copyvio's
✅ Done Gnangarra 23:42, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

This - List of Facilities at Aquinas College, Perth is copied word-for-word from the Aquinas College Student Diary (could be from various year's - probs this years - they all say the same thing about the buildings) - the diary is copyrighted to the college. Im just enquiring as to how to go about like deleting it... Thanks Twenty Years 17:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Bull
I noticed you tagging Bullsbrook, you must have in a hurry or you would have noticed my comment ;-)
 * anyway, has you seen this?. cj put me on to it. I don't know if it offers you anything AWB doesn't, the latter is not available on my platform. There is also, what I think is an interesting deletion debate with my comments here. Fred 07:21, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

AfD Help
Ok, ive gotten lost when trying to Afd List of Western Australian JSHAA Member Schools, List of Victorian JSHAA Member Schools and List of South Australian JSHAA Member Schools - theres an archive of it. and it says not to edit it. Twenty Years 13:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Whoa! thanks man, i was wooping myself there for a second, sorry about late reply - was fixing problemo. Owe you big time. Twenty Years 14:04, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I am never going to start an AfD again, leave it to the smarties like you :) ty Twenty Years 14:12, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Lucky
There you are on awb and here I am doing the cats with manual method along with a million interruptions - good luck to ya! SatuSuro 03:44, 22 April 2007 (UTC) gmail in a few minutes SatuSuro 03:52, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Controversy
An edit has been made at both Headland and Selwood This is a highly controversial topic at the moment, as you may be aware. Given the distasteful allegations and an inconsistent ruling by the tribunal (perhaps to stop the game being brought into disrepute), this edit may be provocative itself. Would you mind taking a look? Regards, Fred 11:45, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Much better. Sorry to bother you with it. Something that high profile probably requires someone with your standing in our community. Good work with the tagging, I'm about do the same for the endemic frogs. E->OIC Fred 12:19, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Just met a very civilised editor through all this. WIN win  LatEr, Fred

WA-Importance
Im just curious about this WA-importance thing in the talk pages. What is its purpose? it doesnt seem to change anything on the talk page itself? Twenty Years 14:10, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, this sounds pretty gud, ill tag the PSA articles for you. Twenty Years 14:16, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

your contributions
are you online but not on msn? ;-) Timeshift 14:14, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * for the past three hours? :D Timeshift 14:25, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
For the email. Metamagician3000 10:18, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Flickr
'' - are 5266, 5264 and 5109 different? (5262 is the same tree as 5264) Also trying to identify 5267. Happy to upload any of these to Commons but it probably makes sense to know where they can be used first :) Orderinchaos 08:16, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 5266 is B. menziesii. 5109 is one of the Crocinae, probably B. prionotes. Not sure about 5264; it looks rather like B. ashbyi, but this occurs only north of Geraldton, so it couldn't be unless you were shooting a cultivated plant. I'd be happy enough to take them all for Commons, even though we might not find a place for all or any of them in their Wikipedia articles - I reckon Commons should be treated as a general media repository, rather than a cross-encyclopedia repository. Hesperian 11:26, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Email
Thanks for getting in touch. There are several factors which made me cancel. I would be interested in hearing about any other get togethers. Cheers, Grant | Talk 12:00, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Second opinion
Hi Orderinchaos, could you please look at my recent contribution list and the conversation I've just had with SatuSuro and let me know if I've done something wrong, I guess it would have been better to consult first, but it was annoying me that no one was rating for wiki-politics so I decided to be bold and start on it and I thought that all Government leaders at least post-federation would warrant either a top or high rating (top for prime ministers and high for premiers) to a wikiproject based on Aust. politics... let me know what you think. thanks, WikiTownsvillian 12:20, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * thanks mate, always good to get your opinion, particularly on tonight's issue. I'd hate to ask but since TCR seems to want to discuss these issues again could we start up the dispute resolution process again some time in the near future (and by that I don't mean this week, considering I'm not really editing the Tvl pages at the moment and don't want to get into it again until I'm in a Tvl frame of mind again :) Thanks and goodnight, WikiTownsvillian 14:43, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

statistical geography
Tell me, my statistically oriented friend,

Is this article that I just created a keeper or a chucker? What can be done to improve it? Do you know of any other articles on such entities? Am I opening a can of worms, and should I care?

Hesperian 12:50, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Perth WikiMeetup
It was good to meet you today. - Mark 02:34, 24 April 2007 (UTC) Its all right - you might have the backgrounds - I have the bagpipes, and the box SatuSuro 10:35, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Suburbs & LGA
When assesing Suburbs and LGA's of Perth, what WP do we put them into - WA or Perth? Twenty Years 10:50, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Okies, sounds awesome. ty. Twenty Years 11:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Sting
Youre taking it out too quick - there is not a perth project article unassessed! waah SatuSuro 03:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC) I Love the irony of the category at the bottom of your talk page - and your awb work floating across my watch page :) SatuSuro 03:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Adoption
Am seeking adoption to help do new articles better for Wiki. Interested mainly in Music and Australia features. Am reposting this as i placed it in wrong location first time. Boylo 03:32, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Hobart
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wiki_ian&action=edit&section=25 - I have suggested you might put them in order :) please SatuSuro 07:00, 25 April 2007 (UTC) Ta for that - my watchlist still floats with your edits - you hav been busy! cheers SatuSuro 08:37, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Postcodes
 Thanks. Email shortly. &mdash;Moondyne 07:20, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The new format looks ok - but I'd put it in a tabular format, maybe with a map (that will take ages, I know...) and maybe a year when that postcode/suburb was introduced? But in terms of the headings and arranging things by postcode rather than name is a good idea. JRG 00:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Precision
Hello. You don't know me, but I spent some time determining this distance. This was with a ruler and a piece of string and I doubt you can supply a better reference than that. The article used to say that it was 2 (two) kilometres away, but using my verifiable research method, I determined that was the middle of a train track and that I was breaking the law and in extreme danger. My ruler conforms to international standards ("International standards are standards developed by international standards organizations. By definition, international standards are ...") of precision, so this is not WP:NOR as I suppose you will claim. Besides, I was born there so must know what the distance is to the point that is not there! ````

Costpodes
What are you doing to the regal & antient numerical suffixes? I read the noticeboard for a change. Any opinion on Compact TOCs for long lists? ☻ Fred|☝ discussion |✍ contributions  Good. Regards.

db
I also tagged South Perth Primary School which I'd also be happy to concede if something new came to light. The others, less so. &mdash;Moondyne 07:14, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Excellent news. I had just finished reading WP:SCHOOLS closely (for the first time) and reckon that about 90% of school articles would struggle if we were honest about it.  But I'm not interested in going there (just yet!).  &mdash;Moondyne 07:22, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Laverton and Leonora
... were two of my earliest articles. Nice to see them being maintained, and glad they didn't need too much of an overhaul after all this time. Keep up the good work ;-) Hesperian 13:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

gmile
SatuSuro 14:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC) and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Adelaide#Station_Infoboxes might have some ramifications around the place - so to speak SatuSuro 15:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Please help - I am about to try to do my class=NA tagging for some of the Singapore project - could you please watch - and if I have problems with NA inside the Sg template could you poissibly do a fix for me (Ok I owe) SatuSuro 05:30, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

There was no issue with the template - more what the project does with lists, disambigs (they tag disambigs - yikes!) - trust last nights gmail was checked early enough cheers SatuSuro 05:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Once again my watch page is ablaze with your edits - we must have very similar watch pages (to an extent) - my talk page needs to be read as my singapore friend has concerns about the SG daily bot - any help appreciated (if you are not locked in to the edits forever so to speak) cheers SatuSuro 06:08, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Advice Needed
I have done my first new article on a Australian band from the 70's Band of Light but a Editor has posted a box stating ' that the subject of the article does not satisfy the notability guideline '. He has put the notes ' notable? & cat ', yet the article from what i can tell passes on notable from the music listing in a few criteria, such as having a hit on national charts and releasing two or more albums. So am unsure what he is requiring or what to do now. Also am unsure of what he means by ' cat '. Can you help us out on this ? Thx Boylo 04:48, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Thx for your help on that Orderinchaos. I was still working on that article to do the links to internal pages, when that box appeared. Am working on adding more info to complete it. Those links you gave me will help also. Regards Boylo 01:00, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

ratings
Everything else should be low for both WA and Australia. Just my two cents. Thanks for putting in the effort. Hesperian 11:46, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Anigozanthos manglesii, high for WA, because it is our floral emblem. Low for Australia.
 * Eucalyptus marginata, mid or maybe high for WA, because it is our best known tree, very widely distributed, a renowned timber worldwide, and historically an important export industry. Mid for Australia.
 * Eucalypus diversicolor, mid for WA, because it is well known worldwide, and the basis for a major industry. Low for Australia.
 * Acacia aneura should be low for WA, but mid or high for Australia.
 * I would at least consider ranking the following as mid for WA simply because they are highly prominent, to the point of almost being household names in WA or worldwide: Adansonia gregorii, Agonis flexuosa, Chamelaucium uncinatum, Corymbia calophylla, Hakea laurina, Nuytsia floribunda.
 * Phytophythora cinnamomi is not a plant, but should be rated mid for WA because it is one of our big three conservation issues.
 * Deltasaurus kimberleyensis is not a plant; low for WA.
 * Acacia baileyana does not occur in WA; remove from WA project.


 * Phytophythora cinnamomi Id would say high, given its a consideration for all plantings affects access to various parts of the state Gnangarra 12:04, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Images
Cheers. Hesperian 12:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

RE:WA LGAs
No worries it was a little repetitive. Once the table is complete and the lead increase it might be a candidate for featured listing. Hossen27 07:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Geraldton
Thats funny because I didnt put Geraldton on the locator maps - looks like that was the right decision/mistake --Astrokey 44 22:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Adoption
Hello, i was wonder if you had adopted Boylo ? if so please change his status as adopted on the "adopt-a-user" page, else let me know if hes still up for grabs. Matthew Yeager 01:22, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Sigh
Will probably start an NT project (seeing I was once at uni in NT) SatuSuro 01:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Sigh continued - the scotch/swanbourne vandal - wanna welcome or warn? SatuSuro 15:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)