User talk:Orderinchaos/Archive 2011

Christmas Creek
Any idea why you deleted Christmas Creek? John Vandenberg (chat) 23:26, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Someone created thousands of stubs for minor waterways and all sorts of other things, often from very unreliable sources, it took us (myself, Moondyne, various others) weeks to get through them all. There's nothing to stop recreation if there's good sources etc. Orderinchaos 23:28, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries; I was guessing something like that was behind it all. John Vandenberg (chat) 00:49, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It'd be somewhere in the AWNB archive. There's a bunch of Christmas Creeks.  –Moondyne 01:11, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * OK. Reason I asked was that there are some images in the SLQ donation with a subject header of Christmas Creek (iirc they were of a NSW creek by that name). Do you think any of them are notable, so we can set up a dab page? John Vandenberg (chat) 00:28, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The whole idea of that deletion was that only the ones worth re-creating would come back into existence - so if this one has sources, by all means. If the notability threshold isn't crossed by the creek itself, try the nearest town or shire. Orderinchaos 06:14, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

time to sort out the icesave / debt repayment / loan agreement dispute finally
hey there, this is just a bulk message inviting you to re-think the topic as was discussed more than 6 months ago and is still unresolved. feel free to jump here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Icelandic_debt_repayment_referendum,_2010#Time_to_settle_the_title_dispute.3F and help figure out how we can end this conclusively this time. --Lotsofmagnets (talk) 02:55, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Wilkins Public School
G'day Orderinchaos. This is just to let you know that, while I intend to improve the article (and for all the OC schools) at some stage, I'm not particularly bothered if it is deleted in the meantime. I've mentioned this at Talk:Wilkins_Public_School. - danjel  (talk to me) 16:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

schools
Primary schools are normally redirect & merged to an article on the school district or local authority, or if necessary the town. I m therefore declining all your prod requests. Please figure out & do the proper mefge/redirects (fwiw, usually very little is merged, but sometimes a combination article for a school district gives each one of them a paragraph & a picture).  DGG ( talk ) 19:26, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Train stations
Hi OIC. I noticed your move revert on Joondalup railway station. You would be able to guess my opinion on mandatory disambiguation on train station articles but I don't have any plans to start trying to get them all renamed. However, you may be interested in what has happened with the articles in Category:Railway stations in Brisbane where has removed disambiguation terms from those articles that did not need disambiguating. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 04:44, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * My opposition in this case was to non-consistent moves (it's been going on for a while, Ingolfson moves one at a time weeks apart). If the category as a whole is addressed, I'm happy whatever the outcome. Orderinchaos 06:02, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Requested move - Victoria (state)
I asked for clarification at WP:CFD talk and got it confirmed that a bot will do the renaming. Seems they have their own for that, so no further bot request and thus no delay. Also the person that answered indicated it can go through speedy. Speedy has a 48h grace period, so we may be able to have it all done within 96 hours. In case someone opposed it will have to go through regular CFD, which would take 7 days. But even this is fine. When the rename is done, I now expect to be done with the most urgent stuff latest within 10 days. And the real urgent stuff, the templates would be done within 2 hours after I see the change.

If there is anything else I am happy to hear it and hopefully can address it well.

TopoChecker (talk) 15:59, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

FYI
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Naughtiestboy SatuSuro 09:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

National parks
Hi. I'm currently writing an article with Nvvchar and Rosiestep on User:Nvvchar/Organ Pipes National Park. It came to my attention that you have your own infobox for Australian national parks. I'm fine with that, seems as you have a LOT of them. However I was wondering if you could introduce the pushpin map system and use Template:Location map Australia relief which I've just created. I think each national park should have an infobox and a locator on this relief map. Maybe it would be best to change the pin to a different colour? In regards to mountains I would like each mountain to have a locator map like Mount Ainslie (Australian Capital Territory). Is this OK? Can we try to ensure they all have locators? ♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)


 * National parks are an Australian institution. But keep in mind many of them are small and close together so higher-zoom regional maps with a small "here-in-Australia" locator in the corner would be much more desirable than the national map in the example. (Mount Ainslie for example is well within Canberra's suburbs - as are a number of other things which would all look to be in the same place - a non exhaustive list in my own city would include Yanchep NP, Neerabup NP, Greenmount NP, John Forrest NP, Beelu NP, Walyunga NP, Gooseberry Hill NP, Kalamunda NP, Lesmurdie Falls NP, Serpentine NP, and that's only the national parks.) Now's not a good time for me simply because I'm snowed under with job apps and start of studies (academic year here in Australia begins in two weeks), and the NP template isn't one I'm personally familiar with, but I'll look at it when I have time. IMO all coords should be latitude/longitude because it means no matter what locator map is used the result should be correct, whereas loc x/y has to be changed each time one changes the image. Orderinchaos 08:43, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi there
Long time no see. Do you have any opinion on this user? He looks as if he could be a problem for myself in the future regarding former users. Up to you if its worth chasing. Cheers, Романов (talk) 13:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know - you may well have a point. I vaguely remember this one from the time all this was happening. At the moment it doesn't seem like there's a lot to investigate - if their behaviour becomes problematic in its own right then they risk getting blocked for that, but I don't see it affecting you. If it does (in an IP block sense eg editing from the same campus), feel free to direct any unblocking admin my way. Orderinchaos 16:41, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Романов is back to their disruptive ways, I though they would have learnt by now but seems not. Bidgee (talk) 10:09, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Crap. :/ WP:COPY is bedrock policy on this site, you'd sort of think given past troubles they would check with others. Orderinchaos 10:14, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Deputy Premier of Western Australia
Thanks for expanding the list of deputy premiers (I only bothered creating the article to round out Category:Lists of heads of government of Australian states and territories). A few things:


 * 1) You need to recheck some of the dates (unles Willcock and Troy really were co-deputy premiers in 1935-36!)
 * 2) According to this ADB bio, Willcock succeeded Angwin as deputy in 1927.
 * 3) A cite would be good too.

Thanks. Incidentally, the WA parliamentary library source I used for the postwar deputies cites "Gerald Walter Watts" as deputy in 1959-62. But the only Watts in parliament was an Arthur Watts, according to the early 1960s member list. The list of MLAs yields an "Arthur Frederick Watts". Not sure what's going on there. Miracle Pen (talk) 11:24, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Was definitely Arthur Watts - he was the country party leader from 1942 to 1962 and hence deputy premier any time the Coalition were in (and, strangely, opposition leader from 1942-47 as the Nationalists/Liberals were the minority partner at that time). I'll check the dates but I had been going off gazettes - will recheck them this week. Orderinchaos 12:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The Willcock 1927 issue turns out to be an error in Bolton (1961), which I'd relied on for some of the ministry articles; I shall check the original gazettals for all 1911-1930 ministries this week in the Battye to see that there's no other ones lurking there. Orderinchaos 12:48, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Discussion at Template talk:Mapit-AUS-suburbscale#Edit protected
You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:Mapit-AUS-suburbscale. Allen4names 20:22, 5 February 2011 (UTC) (Using )

Towns Goldfields-Esperance WA
Just when I thought they were all done (except Kambalda West) you added a bunch more. So much for crossing that one off the list. Grumble.... --Hughesdarren (talk) 14:17, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, as I say to the kids, build a bridge and get over it (or less frequesntly and only to the boys dry your eyes princess). Nice database you've made, definitely be using that. I notice you have the land district column in the database, but we never refer to these in towns articles but we always mention shire and region. Are land districts pretty much irrelevant these days? --Hughesdarren (talk) 08:49, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Good work on Buldania, completing articles in the Goldfields-Esperance region is getting a bit competitive now. You're not going to start sledging me on my talk page are you? --Hughesdarren (talk) 13:13, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Buldania was an odd one as there was just about nothing about the place - I didn't even have a gazettal or even a file, only (strangely) reserves with lot numbers attached to it indicating that there was at some point a townsite declared in the area. So Trove became my friend :) Orderinchaos 13:16, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Pretty much done with all the goldfields places listed except for Kambalda West and Mount Burges which I can't find much for at all (including your spreadsheet). Are all the other red links on your spreadsheet worth adding do you think? Cheers --Hughesdarren (talk) 19:49, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Defunct higher education institutions
I notice you're still doing the school lists - do you have any of these sources for higher education institutions (TAFEs, teachers colleges, etc)? Rebecca (talk) 16:13, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I started one for TAFEs but it gets majorly complicated as there's basically no standardised records before 1980. With teachers colleges, there was only four - Claremont, Churchlands, Graylands and Mount Lawley, although I've found gazettals relating to a separate secondary teachers college which may have at some stage been colocated with one of the above. Universities are easy - we know when each of the five came onstream and none have gone the other way. Orderinchaos 21:12, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Another problem is confusing nomenclature, too - it seems some special schools associated with country high schools were called "technical schools", while the same term was applied to lower-order technical colleges in the city at the exact same time. The status of agricultural colleges is also confusing - some were parts of high schools, some were definitely not and had no school-aged students. Orderinchaos 21:14, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, fair enough. Is there any chance you could throw what you have into a document? Rebecca (talk) 00:33, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * If it could wait a week, sure :) (Uni's just started and things are pretty crazy atm) Orderinchaos 02:02, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * If you don't mind looking at a document I last edited in 2009 and haven't so much as checked, this was an attempt to collate all the gazettals (before I figured out that many, many things never did get gazetted to begin with). Orderinchaos 02:05, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Morag Bellingham
Hey, I noticed you protected the article Morag Bellingham from being recreated. Will you be able to reverse that If I recreate the article with sourced, factual, real world content? RAIN*the*ONE  BAM 21:10, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably better to create a page in your userspace with the content and link it. If it's ready for publication then I can unprotect the article so you can move your userspace draft to the mainspace location. Orderinchaos 06:27, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey the article is ready be moved into the mainspace now. It's here User:Raintheone/Morag Bellingham. I was busy with GA's, so I only got round to starting it the other day. RAIN*the*ONE  BAM 02:17, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Excellent work - now moved for you :) Orderinchaos 04:33, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Old LGA maps
Back in 2007 you made a bunch of maps of the old Victorian LGAs: Did you have a source for this information/what did you derive the base maps from?

Thanks —Felix the Cassowary 14:36, 12 March 2011 (UTC)


 * It was either the 1992 Municipal Register (I doubt it, I think this just had text information) or the 1992 Victorian Year Book produced by the ABS. I got a photocopy from it while in the SLV in 2007, which I later scanned and used as the basis for drawing a map in Inkscape. Orderinchaos 16:31, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It looks like the ABS has put the year book up too, so if that's right (still downloading) we can even have a link to the source. Have you still got the SVGs you produced? Commons only has PNGs. —Felix the Cassowary 19:12, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I have 4 SVGs but not sure which one is which. I'll upload one and see if it's the right one (I have no way to view them on my machine :/ ). Orderinchaos 19:42, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * As luck would have it, the first one was the right one. Now uploaded at File:Victoria_old_LGAs_map_filled.svg. Not at all sure where the Melbourne one is. Orderinchaos 19:47, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much. If you do find the old one, I'd appreciate it but it's in no sense urgent. —Felix the Cassowary 20:10, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

User:Enidblyton11 and socks
(an Enidblyton11 IP) has been vandalising again, and I'm beginning to wonder whether it may be worth an SPI to see whether this is a new vandal, or if there's some sort of link to. The Enidblyton socks have distinctive behaviour (late night vandalism and hoaxes deliberately mixed in with factually correct edits) and it looks to be different to KAPITALIST's style. Given you've been handling the Stravin sockfarm, I'd like to get your opinion. -- Lear's Fool 15:49, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I might add into the mix here.  Sorry to keep nagging, but would I be able to get your opinion?  -- Lear's Fool 14:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I've made the connnection too... good to see someone else has. Timeshift (talk) 14:54, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a difficult one without direct evidence, but...
 * In my TZ (GMT+8), Stravin historically edited at two times of the day - around 15/16/17, and around 21/22/23/(0). This closely matches Jarrodaus, but *didn't* match Enidblyton. There has been another IP - 58.106.81.131 - which has slightly different editing times again (finishing by 22, and editing from 11), which has a one-eyed Liberal bias and is from/mostly interested in electoral districts in the northern suburbs of Sydney. (This combined with its inappropriate behaviour towards other users makes me think that 58 = Kapitalist.) It got blocked for disruption for a week ending on Thursday and has resumed over there. Both IPs are from Sydney, but one is Telstra Bigpond and the other is Optus. Curiously, none of the accounts (including 144.), with rare exception, edit between 23 and 11! (that being 1am to 1pm Sydney time)
 * I think a checkuser is needed to sort this out, and include User:Романов as well. My belief is at this point that Stravin = Jarrodaus and some other undetected accounts, and Kapitalist = Enidblyton11 = 58. Романов is a reformed editor linked to this group, which curiously hasn't edited much at all since action was taken on Enidblyton11 and 58. The old links can never be established - the checkuser data only goes back some months - but it looks to me that there is four accounts and three people, so at least two are coming from a single source. If I wasn't doing multitude of urgent assignments offline (damn uni) I'd write up the checkuser request, but if someone else could (and TS if you know of any other accounts as well) I'd be most grateful. Orderinchaos 01:28, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll file an SPI later today. -- Lear's Fool mobile 02:59, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I've filed a new report at the Stravin casepage. It's a bit of a mess, you should both feel free to chime in or correct me.  -- Lear's Fool 06:18, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Another potential? Timeshift (talk) 00:44, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The results are back. As I suspected, Jarrodaus11 = Enidblyton11. The rest are from similar areas, but have different ISPs.  I've blocked Jarrodaus11, and re-blocked Enidblyton11 with abusing multiple accounts as the reason.  The autoblock will catch any IPs he's been using, so that will deal with 144.136.101.108.  I don't think the 58 editor is the same person as Enidblyton11: they seem to have very different editing styles.  58's been making a whole bunch of smaller changes in article space, and never communicates, whereas Enidblyton11's changes are larger, and he communicates disruptively on talkpages and through edit summaries.  Anyway, I'll keep an eye on it.  -- Lear's Fool 03:30, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for helping out with this one - and once again sorry that I couldn't assist more directly this time (the assgs are coming along well, but between an AGM, an SGM, recovering from a flu, being just back from travel and about to head off again, with no shortage of disruption!). I'm glad to see Romanov wasn't involved, but had to have it checked anyway. At least for now we have a revised case and some blocked accounts, which make it easier if they play up any time in the next few months. Orderinchaos 14:48, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * May need to keep an eye on who uploaded an attack image and used it on the Australian Greens article. Bidgee (talk) 12:32, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Dennis Hood
Hi.

Could you consider removing the protection that you applied to Dennis Hood (back in Dec 2010), please? There's no evidence of any vandalism, or anything. Thanks,  Chzz  ► 18:56, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * It's been unprotected the whole time. It's a "flagged revisions" article, due to some rather nasty defamation and such some time ago. I put in that level of review per WP:BLP as it then applied. Orderinchaos 17:03, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

YEPPOON's uploads
I'm finding their images rather questionable as some look professional (for PR), most if not all have no meta/EXIF data and again most if not all are low or poor resolution. I've nuked two images on Commons which were uploaded by them on Wikipedia as they were images from NSWFB (now FRNSW). Bidgee (talk) 09:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah I had my attention directed to one on WP just then which was from an "all rights reserved" Flickr one. Orderinchaos 09:35, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * About to start a Deletion request on Commons (got to find all the images transferred) as I've found another photo which was a copyright violation. Going to be fun as most photos are widely used. Bidgee (talk) 03:41, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Just found this! Bidgee (talk) 03:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

After some advice
An IP has been removing "present" from tables in NSW electoral district article tables, making articles inconsistent with each other. I raised the matter at WT:AUP and there is no consensus to do this. It's annoying not only me but other editors as well. The IP is also adding WP:CRYSTAL stuff too, specifically 2015 election results to some articles. I've asked him/her to stop and to discuss the matter at WT:AUP but the IP just keeps plugging away and has ignored everything added to their talk page. What they're doing is not strictly vandalism so an AIV report really isn't justified but it is disruptive. 4.5 editors have agree present shouldn't be removed, which is pretty much "broad" consensus by WP:AUS standards so the edits are disruptive. I considered an ANI report but it seems to trivial for ANI. All I want is for the IP to discuss but he's just content to do his own thing, ignoring everyone else. I'm not sure of the direction to take at this point. Simply reverting his edits has no effect, he just comes back to the article over and over again. --AussieLegend (talk) 11:20, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Not sure what to do either :/ It does fall under WP:DE, especially given the lack of discussion and the lack of policy basis for what they're doing (WWGB found an interesting policy thing somewhere, remember seeing him post about it on I think AWNB or WT:AUSPOL). Orderinchaos 12:06, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * This user, btw, is clearly User:Stravin. The pattern of editing and timing is exactly the same as what I have in my old spreadsheet, and his editing attentions on various IPs coincide with User:Icybite who was identified some months ago as a Stravin sock. Orderinchaos 12:13, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I suppose that solves the problem for now. --AussieLegend (talk) 12:15, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
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Mail (Boyup Brook article)

 * Yeah, I've been ridiculously busy of late and won't be available for Wikipedia stuff until around 1 June. I will deal with it then - I need to visit the UWA Library anyway for other purposes so can do that while there. Orderinchaos 10:56, 21 May 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks. Mitch Ames (talk) 10:59, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Most grateful
Hi, Order. I want to express my strong appreciation for your very informed remark and your very kind one in the same AN/I thread about the accusation made against another user of intentional character assassination. I suppose it's foolish, but I always worry a bit that when I've taken the time to document a sticky situation, and post about the results, that no one will read them or care about them if they do. So it was just very pleasant to see your two remarks, thoughtful, as they were, in both primary meanings of that pliable word...

I also noticed your post here on your talk about the project, of course. I hope it won't seem too great a familiarity if I say that I'm so sorry you've been worn down by all the crap here. I've not contributed a decimal of what you have, but it's just very distressing to me, as well, how nasty this place can be with all the socks flying in the breeze and the rampant antagonism and bickering. I also contribute from time to time on a help and software development board for a version of the linux operating system, and it's just a much more pleasant place. Anti-social or aggressive behavior just isn't allowed: people who try it get bounced for long periods on the first or second occasion, and don't typically get a third chance.

Anyway, I just wanted to say I have considerable regard for your description of what you've been feeling, since I've felt a much smaller measure of that myself. Whether you find a new spark for your interest and enjoyment here, or discover more rewarding ways to spend your time, I'd just like to say how grateful I am for your contributions, and for the contributions of people like yourself who've invested themselves so obviously in an attitude of collaboration and scholarship during their work here. Since I hear Wiki-petan has a sore throat today, I'll also speak up to express the same gratitude and appreciation on behalf of the community here, and on behalf of the myriad readers throughout the world who have, by your generosity, had the benefit of your very substantial lights. You're due our most cordial thanks for your contributions here. Best regards, –  OhioStandard  (talk) 13:59, 27 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much :) I really do appreciate the positivity! (Sorry for the slow reply - have been very busy offline until the last couple of days.) It's nice to see that some people genuinely care about this place rather than the crappy politics and egos that seem to dominate most of the time. I think it'll be a long time before my enthusiasm and motivation to work on here come back. There's a dozen different things I could get stuck into tomorrow if I could find a reason to do so, including two or three articles which remain unfinished which I wouldn't mind adding to my little collection of symbols at the top right of this page. But real life has its capacity to intervene, and even if it didn't, I'd probably end up spending the time doing other things. But that is the nature of volunteering, I guess. Orderinchaos 21:51, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

WA
I was just wondering what the weather in WA is normally like at the beginning of July. I'm heading over there for a few days at the beginning of July and not sure what to pack. Cheers. --AussieLegend (talk) 16:08, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Prepare for rain (we're the wettest winter capital in Australia) but it can be quite pleasant too - fine periods of up to a week with maximums as high as 24 or 25 are not unknown (but fine days usually mean very chilly nights, pretty close to 0°.). If it's wet, the temperature range on a typical day is 10-17. Orderinchaos 20:18, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. It doesn't seem too much different to Sydney. I'm only tagging along because my daughter, who is out of the country at the moment, wants to see Miley Cyrus. Why couldn't she have had a concert in Darwin? --AussieLegend (talk) 20:32, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * LOL. I got dragged along to a Katy Perry concert in Melbourne last month, so I feel your pain. Orderinchaos 20:41, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * WHAAOE. The Bureau of Meteorology can also be helpful: . Mitch Ames (talk) 11:41, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Street naming conventions
Hi, good to see you editing again. I was wondering if you knew anything about street naming conventions for Australian streets. The reason why I ask is because of some of the entries in Category:Streets in Sydney. Most of the streets have ", Sydney" as a disambiguator. For some, that seems to be because they are indeed ambiguous (e.g. there's a number of Victoria Streets and William Streets around the world, so William Street, Sydney and Victoria Street, East Sydney are a perfectly good disambiguators). So that much is OK.

The problems (that I've found so far; there might be more) are:


 * Some streets that aren't ambiguous have disambiguators, but there's nothing at the ambiguous title (e.g. Rowe Street, Sydney) There's nothing at Rowe Street (you deleted what was there, incidentally). Is the "Sydney" in "Rowe Street, Sydney" there because of a convention, or is it just a superfluous dab and can be moved to "Rowe Street"? Henry Lawson Drive, Sydney is also like this (there's nothing at Henry Lawson Drive); so is Crown Street, Sydney (nothing at Crown Street); as is Goulburn Street, Sydney (nothing at Goulburn Street).


 * Some streets that aren't ambiguous have disambiguators but do have redirects from the ambiguous title. For example, Martin Place redirects to Martin Place, Sydney; Taylor Square redirects to Taylor Square, Sydney; Glebe Point Road redirects to Glebe Point Road, Sydney).


 * Bayswater Road (Sydney) is dabbed like most (dabs). That was just moved recently from Bayswater Road, Sydney though.


 * Pitt Street, Sydney is a real mess. Pitt Street redirects to Pitt Street, Sydney, which in turn has a Redirect tag pointing toward Pitt Street (disambiguation), a dab that only has one blue link it - the Sydney one.


 * Harris Street, Ultimo, Sydney: two layers of superfluous dabbing! (There's nothing at Harris Street or Harris Street, Ultimo).


 * When a street does need dabbing, do we dab using "Sydney" (to mean the Sydney metro area) or do we use the suburb/locality name? The reason why is because there's a Marshall Street, Surry Hills, but there's also a Blacktown Road, Sydney.

I haven't checked any other Australian street categories but I wouldn't be surprised to find similar examples there. Miracle Pen (talk) 23:53, 29 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I won't have time to reply until 2 June - this morning was more of a work break from my assignment load (still have 2 x 2500 word essays to put out before then :| ) One thing I notice on quick investigation is that the whole Sydney category is non-systemic to begin with - Highways and Streets aren't even under the same parent category and there's no Roads category at all. Half or more of the Streets are more properly suburban distributors. Historically most of them were disambiguated with city name, but with streets it's a little more complicated as they're often more attached to their locality than their metropolis. Henry Lawson Drive and Glebe Point Road are clear cases for moving to their non-disambiguated forms; Harris Street appears to actually be the primary use so could also be moved (the only other significant one I can find is in Atlanta, USA). I'll reply more fully later. Orderinchaos 04:55, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of property values
Dear Orderinchaos, I've noticed you systemTically deleting a large number of property values from suburb entiries. What are you up to? i'm puzzled by what you mean by "+" and I'm pretty sure you are not a robot. Alex Sims (talk) 01:12, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * A proposal at Template talk:Infobox Australian place that was first started at WP:AWNB to remove propval from the infobox has been unanimously supported. --AussieLegend (talk) 02:12, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * OK that makes sense, but next time please modify the template first then modify the articles. A visual comparison of the article showed a substantial change with the article edit. A meaningful edit summary would have helped a lot :-) Alex Sims (talk) 03:54, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I found a whole group of them which were 3-5 years out of date. As the entire parameter was going to get removed anyway, I removed them as housekeeping edits (and fixed some other minor issues while doing so, such as mis-links, blank fields which don't relate to suburbs and the like). The exception were a bunch added by a single user in Melbourne and Newcastle, which linked to a site which didn't appear to conform with WP:EL. There isn't actually a way to set up a default edit summary on Wiki for those sort of operations. Orderinchaos 04:58, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * What automated tool are you using? It would be a worthwhile enhancement to give a nice edit summary. Alex Sims (talk) 06:38, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not using one - that's the problem. The type of editing isn't really suited to AWB (I haven't found a way with that to do a "delete a line if it starts with these characters" kind of search and replace). Orderinchaos 06:41, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It is considered good practice to provide a summary for every edit, please have a look at WP:FIES. Its only a little bit of typing and '+' doesn't really cut it. Alex Sims (talk) 11:47, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * When I make substantial edits, I do justify them. Relatively routine edits, especially if they're repetitive ones affecting a whole bunch of articles in a way which does not impact upon the content, are quite a different matter - if the Wiki software was more amenable to setting default edit summaries, I'd probably use it, as I do with AWB and with rollback. It'd simply slow things down to a ridiculous level - I don't have a lot of time to edit on Wiki these days (as other posts on this page make abundantly clear) and we have WP:IAR and WP:BURO to ensure productive work is not stifled. Orderinchaos 15:08, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Ummm. Your not the only busy person here, your time saving is someone else's time lost. Meta Key+V (or Ctrl-V if you like) to paste from a buffer does not take long and is not a big ask. Let's leave it there. Alex Sims (talk) 02:42, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * My paste buffer usually already has something much more important in it (like the foundations of my next edit) by the time I get to writing an edit summary. And yes, let's. Orderinchaos 06:53, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Nicola Roxon
Hello why have you deleted the religion section of the webpage? Atheism is included on a lot of worldwide entries for politics. Well, the category is for the individual's religion. She is an atheist. The categories are there to guide the encyclopaedia to provide information to the public. This allows people to reference categories. Particularly relevant in politics. Among a number of things is to allow people to do searches. I found this entry because of listening to the radio and there is a religion in politics debate. I wanted to know who is an atheist in the debate and who is religious. Also Euthanasia is a big issue and as health minister it is good to know what religion she is. It only adds to the encyclopaedia not detracting from it. Look at the entries for politics around the world. Religion is a big thing in Australian politics. Also, writing nonsense about socks?!? has nothing to do with this page. Incogfrig (talk) 13:37, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I have no time to debate with campaigners, especially given how long you've been around this place with this one issue. Orderinchaos 13:38, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand what you are talking about. I am new here so that was my first entry. I searched some information and added it to the webpage just like all the other webpage for polititions. Why are you being so rude to me when I am new? It is not very nice. Incogfrig (talk) 13:52, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It's *very* obvious that you're not really a new user, and not even good at pretending to be one. Why would your edit have had the same format and the same obscure SMH reference in the exact same format, which isn't exactly newbie-friendly, as those added more than a year ago? There are more pointers, but those are the blindingly obvious ones. Orderinchaos 14:06, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Help with a new template
I recently created Template:NationalParksofQueensland but it hasn't worked out correctly. Should it be renamed with spaces? Could you fix it before I complete the list and start adding it to any more articles. Thanks. - Shiftchange (talk) 00:44, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It's because the "name=" parameter and the name of the template aren't the same. You could either rename the template with spaces, or change the "name=" to NationalParksofQueensland; either would work. Orderinchaos 06:55, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Unblock request of Incogfrig
Hello Orderinchaos. , whom you have blocked, is requesting to be unblocked. The request for unblock is on hold while waiting for a comment from you. Regards, WGFinley (talk) 16:56, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Noticed you were online
There seems to be a bit of a shortage of admins who are online at this time (today anyway). If you have time, could you please help this ANI? Unfortunately, the anon is not being receptive to the feedback it has been given. Ncmvocalist (talk) 02:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Note to self (and anyone watching)
The Sunshine Coast, Queensland article is really, really bad. Orderinchaos 03:14, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Talk Page Discussion moved to Talk:Sunshine Coast, Queensland. Sb617 (Talk) 02:46, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Common Statement?
I started working up a combined draft of the points made by apparently like-minded people at User:Wnt/User_Faction/santorum. You're one of the 11 I think should be compatible. I'd like to get as many points as possible that everyone involved can agree on completely, so I'd much appreciate it if you could endorse the statement, and/or specify which points you reject or need reworked or explained. (and in all fairness there are a few I can see need work). Interested? Wnt (talk) 20:58, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Peachester
Hi OIC See Talk:Peachester, Queensland. Cheers, Mattinbgn (talk) 21:06, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Ockhams razor
Yeah - Sydney beaches - there at least 3 where there are separate beach articles to locality articles with beach in the name, and the .. who put beaches of australia against anything with the word beach in it belong (with the even more oceanographically etymolygical .. who put headlands in the swan river), you will find the general procedure was to put beach where a locality has a beach if mentioned in article but there fine line in some cases I dont mind at all if you revert - as it is simple maintainence of anything in the oz project is dismal - and the pre-occupations of current membership seem to be so far off the mark :) SatuSuro 03:06, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's just one of those mismatches, like calling Perth (the metropolis) a beach rather than, say, City Beach. (And yes, I saw your revert at Kwinana Beach earlier :P I don't think that's been anything close to an actual beach for years!) Orderinchaos 03:07, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I dont know whether sydney project is alive or not - but many localities/beach articles along the beach need a review i think, a possible collection of merges, deletions, and revamps and general maintenance are really needed - embarrassing considering the probable view counts on that stuff SatuSuro 03:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Sydney and Brisbane are the worst overall on a lot of things precisely because they had very insular WikiProjects working on them who imposed their own standards and didn't reference WP Australia, then subsequently kind of died, and because that relationship with WP Australia wasn't built up, noone stepped in to fill the void (or fix the mess). WA and Riverina are in my view the geographical success stories by comparison. Orderinchaos 03:16, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * BTW - the maroochydore article has a picture of the beach as being a view of the locality - Maroochydore therefore is by inference a beach - you might want to deal with that :) SatuSuro 03:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Doesn't really make any difference. If I lived there, I'd take a photo of the main street of the CBD. But if the City of Stirling had a photo of a beach somewhere in it, I wouldn't walk away with the assumption it was a beach. It's in effect an organisational unit consisting of suburbs. Orderinchaos 03:32, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I am not bothered by it - but it shows how photographs lead to assumptions on the part of the viewer as to what the relationship between subject of the article and the picture is - (why I dislike sunset/beach shots that could be anywhere on the planet...) - SatuSuro 03:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

WMA membership
Hi. Thanks for the consideration here but I am a proud (if rather inactive) WMA member and have no qualms about being outed as one. Indeed, when it comes to outing full stop, I came to the conclusion a few years ago that if someone desperately wanted to find out who I was, it would take them around 15 minutes to find out so I stopped worrying and now try and edit on the basis that my identity is public. Cheers, Mattinbgn (talk) 22:27, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It occurred to me after I'd written it that although you'd been involved in at least one WMAu project quite openly, that your membership was "inside information" I had as a committee member and I shouldn't really be disclosing it without permission, hence the edit. And yeah, same since I became a committee member, as the link between my real name and my online identity is pretty open now. Orderinchaos 02:49, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Regions
As long as it ties in with how other states are done I have no problems with that at all - probably due to your recent Qeensland experience - did that clinch the idea - my memory is that I battled with the Tasmanian regions the most - I am not 100% sure about NSW - it think maias has been doing some work there - at least the coastal ones - and I'm not 100% on the Vic - I think the SA ones go back way back to the days of monthly co-ordination thingoes... that seems like a long time ago - now the oz project seems like a bunch of individuals in comparison to then :( SatuSuro 10:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, broadly speaking it's about tidying up - I've been focussed on LGAs and schools, but it could really be done for any subcategorisation. Thanks to your efforts WA's easy to fix as almost everything's in the right parent category already :) Orderinchaos 10:57, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Tassie should be on the way easy - not sure bout the others... SatuSuro 10:59, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

ahah
You found it  SatuSuro 02:28, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Ta for that ] SatuSuro 09:08, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 * mind you - what a horrible mess in general List of surfing areas - what a cleanup that would take... SatuSuro 10:52, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

move
hello, Tumbarumba Shire Council to Tumbarumba Shire when you get a minute. (links all done in advance) Thanks (Crusoe8181 (talk) 10:43, 11 July 2011 (UTC)).
 * Done. Orderinchaos 10:45, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Ta, world-record response! also Template:Infobox Indian jurisdiction needs Orissa == Odisha (allow both, as a new name) for the state-name parameter as it affects the map display- damned if I can find it! Cheers (Crusoe8181 (talk) 10:51, 11 July 2011 (UTC)).
 * Weird one - it's not there at all, it uses the input as the filename. As Commons doesn't allow duplicate uploads, I'm curious to know if it allows redirects. Orderinchaos 23:32, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Interview at Wikimania 2011
Hello! My name is Aaron Muszalski and I'm a Storyteller at the Wikimedia Foundation. I'll be traveling to Wikimania next month to collect editor stories for our 2011 Fundraiser. While there I'd love the chance to meet with you and hear your thoughts about Wikipedia.

If you're interested, please email me at amuszalski@undefinedwikimedia.org — Thanks!

Aaron (WMF)

Biloela
Hi OIC. Biloela is in Banana Shire and in the Fitzroy River basin and would be considered by its residents to be part of Central Queensland rather than the Wide Bay-Burnett. Its primary social and economic ties are certainly to Rocky and Gladstone, rather than Bundy. Cheers, Mattinbgn (talk) 01:31, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Good point - I was for some reason putting it mentally in North Burnett. Will fix in a sec. Orderinchaos 01:31, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Coomera State Primary School
I think that this school's age and connection with the parks would suggest notability, but I don't have time to look around for better sources etc. at the moment.

If nobody else comes forward to fix the article, could you please move it to my userspace? I'll then put it on my to do list. Cheers. - danjel  (talk to me) 10:20, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Portal Brisbane
Portal:Brisbane hasn't been edited for 14 months. Its only getting more than 10 hits per day once or a few times each month. Maybe it should be redirected to Portal:Queensland like the other capital cities. Would you agree? It has just over 70 incoming links I can remove over the next little while. - Shiftchange (talk) 13:14, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * That seems like a reasonable idea to me. Even my *state*'s portal is embarrassingly untouched, I imagine these things require a fair bit of enthusiasm to keep up to date. Orderinchaos 15:08, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * BTW might need your help later, there's some 3,700 articles possibly within QLD's scope which are not tagged for the project. I've been working it down on obvious categories (rugby league, local government/towns etc), but have limited time so can't do much with the biographies and others that require one to read the articles to figure out whether they're in scope or not. Orderinchaos 15:16, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I would be happy to do that and other tasks if I know exactly how. If you have any tedious housekeeping tasks involving WP:QLD for which you can leave straight-forward instructions on my talk page I can attend to them. I enjoy working on Portal:Queensland although when I started the new article section to fill a gap I had no idea there was going to be an average of more than one article per day. - Shiftchange (talk) 01:38, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * That list is very handy. I have already started using it. I will go through the geographical ones by type eg. islands, rivers, lakes, etc. After that I will do anything else I am familiar with but I can't commit to biographical articles.  I will note if they need an infobox and if they are more than a stub I will add reqphoto if needed. I will create lists to add to List of x in/of Australia as I go through them. Anything that is C or B class I will try to find a hook for more Portal:Queensland DYKs. I don't want to learn AWB at the moment. Maybe the list could be updated in a few months. Thanks. - Shiftchange (talk) 09:42, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

quick look
School of the Air = please? it was a damned mess and looked like a copyvio from alice springs - any fix or check would be appreciated ta SatuSuro 06:29, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

WP QLD
Yep, no problems. Probably won't have time to do it until later tonight (there is a lot of strat planning work to be done...), but it'll be good to actually do some on-wiki stuff for once! Lankiveil (speak to me) 08:52, 19 July 2011 (UTC).
 * Well, I've already found five in the "A" section (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AOrderinchaos%2FQLD_list&action=historysubmit&diff=440277353&oldid=440274075), so it's obviously rich in in-scope stuff. Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:02, 19 July 2011 (UTC).

Quakers Hill East Public School
Hi, I am sorry but I think that this was an inappropriate G6 deletion. The specified grounds simply do not fit the CSD G6 criteria. Will you please undelete it. I will then redirect and merge it to Acacia Gardens. Thanks. TerriersFan (talk) 21:34, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. Orderinchaos 21:44, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. TerriersFan (talk) 21:52, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Ta
For that - had to restrain myself though in replies - I was simply trying to clean up the trail of of even less supportable stubs... when it rains, etc etc SatuSuro 07:34, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

City of Nedlands
I do not care what you call the orgin year of the City of Nedlands. However your use of est makes it a direct part of Category:1893 establishments. Since it is in subcats of that cat like Category:1893 establishments in Australia it should not be directly in that category. You need to find a way to list the year of establishment without automatically making it part of the category. This seems to only happen with Australia locations. I am not sure why, but it is a problem that needs to be fixed.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:04, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing that to my attention - I've tried to fix it, we'll see if it works or not. Orderinchaos 20:08, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The request to change the template to do that was made back in 2008, and the template was changed here. I queried the categorisation when User:Meco went on his category creation rampage and was told "No, that's the way it should be". I still don't agree. --AussieLegend (talk) 21:03, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

if both syntax
I responded on my talk page. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 01:07, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Extraordinary Gazette
Question for your attention at my en wikisource talk page. Hesperian 14:11, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

St Joseph's College, Nudgee
Hi OIC. You know a lot more about schools etc. than I. Can you take a look at ? It looks like a role account to me. Cheers, Mattinbgn (talk) 03:47, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Perth state by-election, 1892
Is Perth state by-election, 1892 a good title? It wasn't a state yet. I suspect that's the logic behind the title of East Adelaide by-election, 1892. Not particularly fussed about it, just musing. Miracle Pen (talk) 03:49, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Warning
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Western Australian state election, 1933. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively. In particular, the three-revert rule states that: YOU, ONLY, HAVE MADE THREE REVERSIONS WITHIN A 24-HOUR PERIOD If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Pol098 (talk) 16:06, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
 * 1) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.


 * The warning you placed on my Talk page is nonsense; I made a change unredlinking common names such as Alec Thomson. My change was reverted asking "why?" I reinstated my edit, with explanatory summary: "WP:REDNOT personal names". It was reverted again, with a summary asserting notability of the names I had unredlinked. I reinstated my edit, with very detailed explanatory summary "rv. sooner or later another, different "Alec Thomson" will become notable & will be linked from here; this often happens. Redlinking "Alec Thomson (Australian politician)" would avoid all except very exceptional such coincidences." This is in accordance with WP:REDNOT: "Redlinks to personal names should be avoided ... Frequently a redlinked name has been placed in an article, and subsequently a different editor has created an article about an entirely different person with the same or a similar name....". I don't propose to continue; so far, each edit I make has had more information in the edit summary, and I have said as much can be said in a summary. I note that I made an edit, and reverted changes twice, with explanation; but Orderinchaos, belying his username, reverted 22:23, 28 July 2011; 11:01, 29 July 2011; 12:25, 29 July 2011; by my reckoning this is 3 times within a 24-hour period. Orderinchaos has clearly made 3 reversions in 24 hours and violated a guideline on name redlinking. While guidelines are not binding, it is sensible that in case of disagreement the guideline should be followed until a resolution is reached. In this case a proper solution is simple and clear, instead of redlinkiing a bare name, add a qualifier such as "(Australian politician)". As commonsense has not prevailed in edit summaries, this silly matter will need to go to the Talk page for the article to see what others think. I note that the "Alec Thomson" page relating to this article, in particular, has since been created, so is no longer violates the guidelines. If the other pages are also created it will resolve the issue. Pol098 (talk) 16:06, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Think you may have entered the wrong name....
Sockpuppet investigations/GorillaWarfare? Hers fold  (t/a/c) 01:20, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

ANI notification
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In your own time
Could you please check that I havent created something already worded differently - it seems weird it hadnt existed already - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Speakers_of_the_Western_Australian_Legislative_Council ta SatuSuro 05:58, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Taking Freo
The list is miniscule compared to what could be done

There are and have been notable musos plastered on the windows down High Street last month (cdont know if they are still up or not) who probably dont have arts - a complete list of  Musos of the Freo Music Scene to date is beyond me but needed  (it needs to be done...)

also Baghwan Shree Rajneesh/Osho group inhabited more than 4 or 5 locations in Freo in its time - I challenge any sleuth to identify and find WP:RS for them  (anybody who wants clues I can answer offline be email - do not want em up on wp space unless they are being used validly) SatuSuro 11:00, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Have thrown a bit in - hope youre feeling better SatuSuro 12:56, 23 August 2011 (UTC)


 * There probably would be concrete physical things that could relate to some of the topics that I have raised at goals - but might need some homework to confirm connections with specific places - please could you reply somewhere on here or offline to confirm if I am off target (btw please feel free to removed my additions if they are too left field for specific things and places idea) SatuSuro 13:03, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Oh yes, the muso foopath of stars thing. Should be easy to get a list. I'll leave the sanyassin history up to someone else... :-) —Sam Wilson 14:12, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Update WP:QLD list?
Would you be able to update User:Orderinchaos/QLD list? I'm going through it and loading pages that are already assessed. Thank you. - Shiftchange (talk) 13:58, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Another update would be much appreciated. It has been 2 months. - Shiftchange (talk) 10:42, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

WP Australian Politics in the Signpost
"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject Australian Politics for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Other editors will also have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 16:39, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Draft for Mathematics education in Australia
I've started a draft at User:Danjel/Mathematics_education_in_Australia. I've made a couple of notes on how I think we should proceed, but it needs more work (I'd do more, but I am with my class, who are mostly sedate at the moment).  &tilde;danjel [ talk | contribs ] 02:40, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Re: Polish Wikipedia's editor in Australia
Hi! The only person I know for sure is Michał Rosa. He's a veteran editor of Polish Wikipedia and he lives in South Australia. Obviously there are many more editors who actively contribute to articles on Australia, but I'm not sure which of those editors actually live in Australia. For example I write quite a lot about your country, but I live in Poland and Australia is the subject of my PhD thesis. Regards. Powerek38 (talk) 08:38, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

 * Ping! Sp33dyphil  "Ad astra" 14:41, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) My talk page now seems to work again... glad to know they fixed the bug! Orderinchaos 12:41, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Ipswich city crest.jpg
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My Hampi article.
hi, I appreciate you for your good suggestions. I take it as a reference in my future articles. Thanks & Regards Brkrao Brkrao (talk) 13:26, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Rivers
Thanks for your moves; I felt it a good idea to seek a bit of consensus to avoid a revert war. There are 640,000+ villages in India (with an average of 2.5 spelling variants each); recently there was an attempt to disambiguate articles on the basis of these names. We get over it. Regards Crusoe8181 (talk) 09:56, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Engadine Public School
Hey, I've just seen your merge suggestion on Engadine Public School. If you want to merge the article into Engadine, New South Wales feel free to do so. I would do it but I'm not too sure on the whole merging process.

In hindsight EPS probably should've gone straight into the Engadine article but at the time I created the article I was only 14 and didn't fully understand Wikipedia's guidelines on notability, references and the like. Kytabu Talk 10:22, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

WA coords
Hello, flick passing one to you- Suburb coords for Clifton, Coodanup and Erskine are incorrect (check via Google maps) but are identical to  coords, presumably because they have been split into smaller suburbs and the coords have fallen off the edge. Possibly the same situation outside Mandurah. I have no accurate maps etc., hence passing on. Regards Crusoe8181 (talk) 10:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I've visually re-centred them based on the Streetsmart directory and Google Maps - the last two were actually pretty close, the first one was way out. Orderinchaos 15:58, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Moving Burma to Myanmar - ongoing poll
This is to let you know that an ongoing poll is taking place to move Burma to Myanmar. This note is going out to wikipedia members who have participated in Burma/Myanmar name changing polls in the past. It does not include banned members nor those with only ip addresses. Thank you. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:23, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've added my 2c. Orderinchaos 22:12, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Whaddya rekon?
What do you make of these? This user is placing a lot across Indonesian geography articles. I'm inclined to remove them. How do you think they match up against policy? --Merbabu (talk) 09:39, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Reminds me of the old Melbourne infoboxes we worked so hard to get rid of in 2006-7. :P Orderinchaos 11:05, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

1955 election
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Kotara High School source?
I am looking at the school info on Adamstown, New South Wales which you added long ago (2008). Do you have a reference for this you might recall (in particular the mention of KLN Collegiate or the three major high schools)? I couldn't find mention on google or the schools own website, but I didn't want to just delete without checking as I've found info like this sometimes isn't on the net. I liked the school info here (lacking from most suburbs in Newcastle) and thought this might be a good project to work on over the holidays. --Qetuth (talk) 05:38, 22 December 2011 (UTC)