User talk:Oriabr

Oriabr (talk) 21:06, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi Jim,

Should you allow it, I will gladly send you by email a scan of all documentation from the law firm we work with, Stark & Stark, for the copyrighting of the Computerized Storybook platform which we use to create our BooClips which were also trademarked (and for which I can send you confirmation from the www.uspto.gov.

We, Castle Builders (IL), own the domain www.booclips.com and we own many other variations of it. Earlier, I sent you links to our app, called LazyTown's BooClips, on Apple's App Store. You can find hundred of references to our BooClip apps, and as you will see from a simple search on Google, that word did not exist prior to our use for it, which derives from the words Books and Clips.

I am not sure how to edit the article, which was deleted twice already, in order to add the sources you are asking for. Frankly, we were not aware of the complexity of the procedure of adding a Wikipedia term, and if you could bare with us a little longer, I am sure we would be able to meet all your requests.

The text was not copied off any website; however, it was written by the same content manager that writes for our websites, so the language is similar.

Please instruct us on how to proceed.

Much obliged,

Ori

Oriabr (talk) 21:06, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Oriabr (talk) 09:59, 2 August 2011 (UTC) Hi Jim, I am not sure if you got my last talk.

Should you allow it, I will gladly send you by email a scan of all documentation from the law firm we work with, Stark & Stark, for the copyrighting of the Computerized Storybook platform which we use to create our BooClips which were also trademarked (and for which I can send you confirmation from the www.uspto.gov. We, Castle Builders (IL), own the domain www.booclips.com and we own many other variations of it. Earlier, I sent you links to our app, called LazyTown's BooClips, on Apple's App Store. You can find hundred of references to our BooClip apps, and as you will see from a simple search on Google, that word did not exist prior to our use for it, which derives from the words Books and Clips. I am not sure how to edit the article, which was deleted twice already, in order to add the sources you are asking for. Frankly, we were not aware of the complexity of the procedure of adding a Wikipedia term, and if you could bare with us a little longer, I am sure we would be able to meet all your requests. The text was not copied off any website; however, it was written by the same content manager that writes for our websites, so the language is similar. Please instruct us on how to proceed. Much obliged,

Ori Oriabr (talk) 09:59, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Booclips
Hi, you can sign your comments automatically using four tildes ~. I deleted your recent article because it did not provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts or show that it meets the notability guidelines. If you have reliable sources, they need to go in the article, although as a new website it's not obvious it will meet the criteria. If you recreate, in addition to proper references, make sure your text is not promotional or copied from any website unless it is explicitly public domain content.  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  19:59, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

See my previous reply. For obvious reasons, I don't reveal my personal email, and even if I did, it would not help because your reply would not be public. The issue is notability, not whether Booclips exists. You need to put good reliable references in the article, not just assure me that they exist.

Unsuitable references include
 * Cites to the company of other affiliates, other than for straightforward stuff like they history of the project
 * Sales sites
 * Anything that can be self-edited (Facebook, Wikipedia etc)
 * Blogs, websites of dubious reliability etc.

Good refs include national or regional newspapers, proper specialist press or websites. In 6 days, the app has reached the 1st place on the Top Books Free iPad Apps charts on the US Appstore, and reached 2nd place on the Top Free iPad Apps on the US Appstore....it was elected by Apple, repeatedly, as #1 and #2 on their New & Noteworthy charts would appear to establish notability, but there is no reference in the article to support the claims.

The text needs work.
 * The article is called BooClips, but the bolded subject in the first line is Castle Builders (IL). Decide what article you want to write about
 * The language is spammy young evolving... unique either need removing or referencing.
 * Use wikilinks. Android, iPad etc have Wikipedia articles, and it looks less like a cut-and-paste iof you add as many links as seem appropriate

Why don't you write a sandbox version, let me know, and I'll comment if you like  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  10:30, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Comments
I can't see what has been done to improve it, it still has Castle Builders as its first line main topic, the spammy language young evolving... unique...  is still there, there are still no wikilinks, there are still virtually no sources, or inappropriate ones. Why is the ipad placing linked to Castle Builders, and not iPad? There should not be be any direct links to websites in the main text, and there shouldn't be any bare urls even in the references. Have a look at Cambridgeshire Guided Busway, selected at random from today's Wikipedia front page news. your article obviously needn't be as detailed and well research as that, but it should give you an idea of what an article should look like, fully referenced to independent sources, lots of wikilinks, no in-text weblinks, a proper references section with no bare urls. There is an "editing help" tag below every edit window, or you could ask me if you are stuck. As it stands, the sandbox version would be deleted on sight  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:43, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

I made these changes to show you how to do references. I've done the first one. Basically, you put the text between tags, and the displays the text. You shouldn't have any external links in the text, they should all be formatted at in-line references like the one I've done. You need to put your references in-line, like the one I've done, so we can see what the ref is supporting. At pesent, nearly all the text lacks a clearly identifiable reference, with only the Shamir bit supported. So you need to make sure that what you are cliaming is properly reffed. The whole of para 2 is unsourced and spammy in tone, with no independent reference to support what you state as fact.

Having a "Rights" section is spammy.

You can't display images in the article as urls. You could put them in the external links section as a link to a website showing the image. You could upload images, but unless you abandoned your copyright to thiose images, they would not be acceptable since not CC-BY-SA 3.0

Referencing and neutral, sourced text are the main issues, but it's getting better  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  08:18, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: NIRU Group (March 9)
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Robert McClenon (talk) 22:08, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: NIRU Group (March 11)
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Robert McClenon (talk) 03:01, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

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 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:NIRU Group. Thanks! Worldbruce (talk) 15:18, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: NIRU Group (March 22)
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333-blue 13:55, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Reply to your Articles for Creation Help Desk question
Hello, Oriabr! I'm Wiae. I have replied to your question about a submission at the WikiProject Articles for Creation Help Desk. /wiae /tlk  13:09, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:NIRU Group


Hello, Oriabr. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "NIRU Group".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. 1989 (talk) 13:04, 1 January 2017 (UTC)