User talk:Orlady/Archive 16

Meyer Kestnbaum DYK
Hi Orlady!

I made some suggestions en passant, in passing your article at DYK.

Best regards, Kiefer .Wolfowitz 13:53, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. However, I'm not likely to do a lot more there. It was generous of you to suggest that I visit the Cornell University library, but that's an expensive airline trip for me, and I probably wouldn't have access anyway. I started the article because it was a redlink and the name had an unusual spelling. Maybe someone else can pick up on it. --Orlady (talk) 16:07, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Orlady
 * You helped so much with one of my previous DYKs, which also dealt with the house of labor, so I thought you might be a New Yorker.
 * Perhaps another editor may be found near the shores of Lake Cayuga, perhaps enjoying the Moosewood Restaurant....
 * I did see a fascinating DYK (about DGM) needing a review, and it was just below your Meyer K DYK, btw! ;D
 * Cheers, Kiefer .Wolfowitz 09:45, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Shark MoU
Sorry about that edit conflict, for some reason we ended up editing the page at the same time, with the same sources too! CMD (talk) 16:01, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Limestone Corner
Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:08, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Meyer Kestnbaum
Materialscientist (talk) 08:43, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Precious

 * Thanks for your manual DYK update, making Main page history, people in oppressive circumstances pictured, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:56, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Passion: He was despised --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:37, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

IIU
Excellent, thank you. Do please keep an eye on this article; I suspect that the services of an "uninvolved admin" will soon be needed. -- Hoary (talk) 15:33, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

ATaylor667 sent you a message regarding a disallowed posting
Dear Orlady,

I was instructed to advise you here when a new message is sent to you through your e-mail link. Please review. Thank you.

A Taylor (talk) 20:04, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Hyles–Anderson College
In passing by Hyles–Anderson College (which appears to be within your specialty of unaccredited schools), I see several SPAs working over the article to remove what they term defamation, as well as adding things like "Hyles-Anderson College is home to some of the greatest Christian educators and Bible scholars today." A superficial review shows that they are removing sourced information of an unflattering nature, but I haven't had a chance to review the quality of the references to see if they support the allegations, and they may represent undue emphasis. Still, it looks like some sanitizing is taking place, as well as editing by related accounts. Could you take a look? I'll check some references as time permits.  Acroterion   (talk)   18:46, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd say that the last section of this revision, while sourced to offline references that I can't verify, represents a fair degree of coatracking, but other references check out. I'm inclined to revert to the version mentioned above, minus the final section.   Acroterion   (talk)   18:57, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Argh! For some reason I thought I had a history with that article, but I don't see it. I did some work there (similar to what you suggested), but more is needed. Maybe we can end up with a fairly neutral article... --Orlady (talk) 21:13, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Argh indeed, it veers wildly from one extreme to the other. I'm going to have a whack at the "abuse" section when I get the chance, as there's a separate article on the founder, and much else doesn't seem to directly concern the college. Thanks for taking a look.   Acroterion   (talk)   21:57, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I removed the remainder of the "Abuse" section. While referenced, it's almost 20 years old and is undue weight. A section on a staff member convicted of abuse doesn't have bearing on the school, and the TV investigation amounts to little more than innuendo with respect to the school itself. Viewed though the lens of "what does this really have to do with the subject of the article?" I didn't see much of a rationale for inclusion, but do see a synthetic statement.   Acroterion   (talk)   02:58, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Happy International Women's Day

 * Seconded by myself, Orlady. The wiki would be much less without you.  The Interior  (Talk) 16:35, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. That's an awesome poster! Apparently, I need to learn more about the history of this date! Orlady (talk) 18:57, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Eliza Barchus
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you Orlady for nominating the article and Casliber for doing the review. Finetooth (talk) 01:11, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Meriden, Connecticut
Hi, due to a previous revert by another editor, coupled with the IP's non-use of edit summary, his edits appeared to be vandalism in my Huggle screen. But after the detail edit summary, despite an accidental revert, I searched google for "Meriden+connecticut+dirty den" and found what the IP is saying is correct, so I self-reverted and offered the IP a glass of beer. Cheers! -- Supernova Explosion   Talk  16:39, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Glad to know what happened. I won't revert again! --Orlady (talk) 17:00, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Maryon Pittman Allen
Orlady (talk) 04:16, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Trinity Southwest University
Looks unaccredited, am I right? It's not on the list. Dougweller (talk) 11:27, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It's on the list now! Thanks. Article needs more work, though. --Orlady (talk) 14:27, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Should the infobox show that it isn't accredited? Dougweller (talk) 17:41, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Ruth Mary Reynolds
Thank you for your edits on the article Ruth Mary Reynolds. I hope that you enjoyed reading about her as much as I enjoyed writting about her. She was an amazing woman. Tony the Marine (talk) 16:42, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * "Willmarth" - Good question. She is inscribed in the plaque of the Women Nationalists as such since, it is Puerto Rican and Spanish custom to use both the "Paternal" (Reynolds) and the "Maternal" (Willmarth) surnames. Thank you for thinking of the "DYK" nomination, but please do not. Thank you. Tony the Marine (talk) 23:27, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Conrad Lynn
Nice, very nice. Tony the Marine (talk) 04:50, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Review
Hello! Can you check it now? Thanks! -- WhiteWriterspeaks 21:33, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK [Review] of Tree Hill Nature Center
Thanks for taking the time to review my article. I have made some changes to the article and responded to other questions you raised. Your feedback is requested. Mgrē@sŏn 16:20, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Rudolf Eickemeyer, Jr.
The DYK project (nominate) 16:01, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Eickemeyer article
Did this article get over 5,000 hits? It received 5,799 on March 16, but I can't find how many it received while on the front page. Bms4880 (talk) 19:34, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * We count the total hits for the day(s) when the article was on the main page, since the baseline number of daily hits is usually very small. This one appears to have gotten 5799 on March 16 and 530 on March 17 (when it was still in some cached versions of the main page), for a grand total of 6,329. --Orlady (talk) 03:26, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Conrad Lynn
Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Dogging Peter Orno

 * Thanks. I was pretty pleased with myself when I found that page! Now I'm wondering if Orno's co-author Leroy Quet is also a pseudonym. --Orlady (talk) 23:00, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I think that Leroy Quet is "the real deal". Not only does he toast Neal J. Sloane's millionth integer sequence, he has donated 4 integer sequences himself!
 * Cheers, Kiefer .Wolfowitz 16:09, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * My thought was (and still is) that Leroy Quet might be a pseudonym used by an academic mathematician when s/he indulges in recreational math. --Orlady (talk) 17:00, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I just paid homage to your instincts and perseverance, and this memory and my inability to find a Leroy Quet at a math institution (or math gen.) suggest that you may be correct. Kiefer .Wolfowitz 17:47, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
Just a little thank you for reviewing my last DYK nom. I didn't discover you'd been there till after it was closed and in prep. Thanks also for the improvements to the article. Marrante (talk) 21:57, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I sent you an e-mail. Marrante (talk) 20:23, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn
I don't have much experience with SPI, but you might be interested in User_talk:Amalthea. Happy editing! Novaseminary (talk) 03:16, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The IP geolocates to the same city as the last two, and is from the same ISP. From the edits, it looks to me like it may be the same person as well, but after a check, I can't tie him to previous accounts, neither directly nor indirectly. It's thus from a technical perspective. You have more experience with him, what do you think? As far as I can tell he hasn't created an account, so no new articles. Would it pay to try and talk to him again, to discuss the previous problems?  Amalthea  08:43, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Revisions to TGOA/MGCA Page
I need help understanding revisions you made to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gardeners_of_America/Men%27s_Garden_Clubs_of_America. I am the primary editor for that page. Specifically, what does the header you added mean where it says "This article relies largely or entirely upon a single source." The article is a description of an organization, and the best source of information about an organization is the organization itself. As a member of that organization, I gathered information from other members to write the article. So why are other "sources" necessary? Where would I look for such sources? Why would any other "source" care about our organization?

Also, you removed a section that included the organization's mission statement. All organizations have mission statements. The article as you have edited it now describes some of the activities of the organization without saying why those activities are being done. The explanation is in the mission statement, which you removed. This seems strange to me.

The other header states "Please help improve it by rewriting promotional content from a neutral point of view and removing any inappropriate external links". You'll have to explain to me which external links are "inappropriate", and why they are inappropriate. All of the external links were added because previous editors complained that I had not documented the article, and I added those links to the organization website for that purpose. So why are they inappropriate?

Lou (talk) 18:27, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Kwakiutl (statue)
Hi -- just a quick thanks for passing my article on DYK! As a side note: it was actually "created" March 5, in terms of moving it to the namespace. The article was developed in my username space, and two weeks later, moved and nominated the same day. Aloha! -- Zanimum (talk) 18:38, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Madeline Rogero
Casliber (talk · contribs) 18:44, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

heads up on nasty accusations
You've been accused of defamation, slander, and sockpuppetry by User:Mlfirm in a 27 March 2012 edit summary on Madison University. Sorry, I don't know how to properly link to it, but here it is as an external link: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Madison_University&action=history I suspect that your supposed sock is me. I'll be happy to do anything I can to help disprove the sock accusation. It shouldn't be an issue since we have completely different editing habits. Meters (talk) 02:03, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I had him and his sockpupet blocked for edit warring. Maybe Oversight the edit summary? Meters (talk) 02:32, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

EUCLID (University)
Hi Orlady. I realize paid editors aren't overly welcome here. Well, consider me a patient and persistent one. ;-)

On the Talk page you mentioned issues with Original Research with the sandbox, but I also offered a series of discussion points (see below) based on pre-existing citations. I was hoping you would take a moment to review my suggestions and discuss which may or may not be appropriate. I also tried Bbb23 a few days ago to see if he was interested in chiming in.


 * A five year old citation was used to claim EUCLID is on the unaccredited list in Maine, even though they are not on the current list.
 * It’s misleading to only say that EUCLID is “unaccredited” in Oregon, even though the very same citation also says they are “approved for use.”
 * Citation 7 is much more complex than the article text indicates. For example, it says that degrees from foreign institutions may be accepted if the applicant can prove they've received a similar education.
 * The "degree mill" comment was associated with a very authoritative source, but according to the citation it's from a contributed article by two authors pushing their books about degree mills.
 * EUCLID's own 24-page letter was only used as a citation to reiterate Accredibase's point of view, rather than to balance the article with both sides of the dispute.

User:King4057 (COI Disclosure on User Page) 02:05, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Garden club
Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:45, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Scope of National Historic Landmark lists
Greetings. You had an opinion on the scope of content in the failed FLC nomination for the New York NHL list. I'd appreciate your comment/participation in this discussion at WT:NRHP. (Summary: I've found a relevant Interior Department policy statement that might have some bearing on the matter.) Thanks.  Magic ♪piano 18:32, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Fisher DYK
Hi Orlady. I've added some references to Fisher v. University of Texas and wonder if you wouldn't mind taking another look at the DYK nomination? Thanks, Gobōnobo  + c 00:19, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for helping get this ready for the front page and working on the hooks. You do a lot at DYK and it's very appreciated. Cheers, Gobōnobo  + c 07:36, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

List of The Doon School alumni
I notice that you've been previously engaged in reviewing school alumni lists for FEatured list status. I have worked very hard on the doon school list and nominated it for FL. I will be deeply grateful for your comments or suggestions:- Featured list candidates/List of The Doon School alumni/archive1 If you know any other school lists reviewer, please invite them for this review as I'm new with not much experience. Thanks very much Orlady! Merlaysamuel : Chat  02:34, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Resolution submission on Almeda University
I have submitted an entry on the resolution notice board titled Almeda University.

A Taylor (talk) 12:23, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Almeda University". Thank you. --Hasteur (talk) 12:38, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

A big NPT update
Hey! Big update on what the developers have been working on, and what is coming up:

coding
 * Fixes for the "moved pages do not show up in Special:NewPages" and "pages created from redirects do not show up in Special:NewPages" bugs have been completed and signed off on. Unfortunately we won't be able to integrate them into the existing version, but they will be worked into the Page Triage interface.
 * Coding has been completed on three elements; the API for displaying metadata about the article in the "list view", the ability to keep the "patrol" button visible if you edit an article before patrolling it, and the automatic removal of deleted pages from the queue. All three are awaiting testing but otherwise complete.

All other elements are either undergoing research, or about to have development started. I appreciate this sounds like we've not got through much work, and truthfully we're a bit disappointed with it as well; we thought we'd be going at a faster pace :(. Unfortunately there seems to be some 24-72 hour bug sweeping the San Francisco office at the moment, and at one time or another we've had several devs out of it. It's kind of messed with workflow.

Stuff to look at

We've got a pair of new mockups to comment on that deal with the filtering mechanism; this is a slightly updated mockup of the list view, and this is what the filtering tab is going to look like. All thoughts, comments and suggestions welcome on the NPT talkpage :). I'd also like to thank the people who came to our last two office hours sessions; the logs will be shortly available here.

I've also just heard that the first functional prototype for enwiki will be deployed mid-April! Really, really stoked to see this happening :). We're finding out if we can stick something up a bit sooner on prototype.wiki or something.

I appreciate there may be questions or suggestions where I've said "I'll find out and get back to you" and then, uh. not ;p. I sincerely apologise for that: things have been a bit hectic at this end over the last few weeks. But if you've got anything I've missed, drop me a line and I'll deal with it! Further questions or issues to the usual address. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 17:17, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination
Would you mind looking at this DYK nomination, which seems about to drop off the bottom of the DYK list? You can see at the bottom how outside readers assess it. --Epipelagic (talk) 20:37, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * So the DYK nom page is not needlessly clogged with detail, I have posted the following issue here. I think the bar you have set for close paraphrasing is too high. To be clear we are on the same page, are you saying that this paragraph in the article mackerel:
 * Atlantic Spanish mackerel (Scomberomorus maculatus) occupy the east coast of America from Narraganset Bay in Canada to Yucatan in Mexico.[10] Its population is considered to include two fish stocks, defined by geography. As summer approaches, one stock moves in large schools north from Florida up the coast to spawn in shallow waters off Canada. It then returns to winter in deeper waters off Florida. The other stock migrates in large schools along the coast from Mexico to spawn in shallow waters off Texas. It then returns to winter off in deeper waters the Mexican coast.[11] These stocks are managed separately, even though genetically they are identical.[12]


 * is a close paraphrase of:
 * For example, Spanish mackerel occur from Maine to the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico. For purposes of management in the U.S., Spanish mackerel are divided into two stocks. Fish from one stock migrate from Florida northward along the east coast of the United States and the others migrate from Florida into the Gulf of Mexico. The two stocks may represent one or several populations of the same species. However, current knowledge about harvesting patterns and migration patterns dictates that they be managed as two stocks.


 * If this is what you are referring to, then I wonder if you are perhaps confusing the structure of the stock and its behaviour with the structure of the text. I didn't use that source at all, and was unaware of it when I wrote that paragraph (I wouldn't have used it anyway). I wrote the text from the three cited sources. Perhaps dementia is setting in, but I was a bit shocked when you said that was close paraphrasing, and simply wouldn't know how to move that paragraph further away from that particular source without sacrificing the actual information involved. --Epipelagic (talk) 02:36, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, I agree that these are different. When I read the source, my reaction was "haven't I seen this somewhere else?" and I noticed a strong similarity in structure. I suppose that was merely coincidental.
 * However, I have a new question for you. Where in Canada is the place you call "Narraganset Bay"? The Narragansett Bay that I am familiar with (and that is the redirect target of Narraganset Bay) is in Rhode Island, which is in the United States. I don't see this bay mentioned in the cited source. --Orlady (talk) 13:45, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Canada came from the FishBase source, Narraganset Bay from the FAO source, and the ignorance that Narraganset Bay was not in Canada came from me. It may be that FishBase is not incorrect, and some mackerel move as far north as Canada. But I've dropped the reference to FishBase, since the necessary information is in the FAO source and FishBase seems the dubious source in this case. The distribution map FishBase provide themselves does not show the mackerel going as far as the Canadian coast and the Narraganset Bay reference is backed by other reliable sources, such as ICCAT, Page 244. --Epipelagic (talk) 16:09, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, that explains things a bit, but the geography is still confused. The one source that mentions Narragansett Bay is internally inconsistent, since the distribution map and other text in that source indicate that the range extends east and north from Narragansett Bay. I changed the article to refer to waters off Cape Cod, which is where most sources place the northern end of the range. --Orlady (talk) 18:13, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

possible double dyk
If you're planning to do a DYK for William Bell, you might try a double dyk (similar to Charles Cansler and Austin-East a few months ago) with his son-in-law, William H. Rau, which I created last week. They were both part of Transit of Venus expeditions, and both exhibited at the Centennial Exposition, if you need a connection. Bms4880 (talk) 15:24, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

In case you're still around...
might I be able to interest you in the Good Friday problem in the DYK queues and prep areas? Basically, the two DYK noms that were being saved for Friday will now not be appearing until Saturday. I've proposed a couple of moves on the WT:DYK page, but they require an admin... BlueMoonset (talk) 04:31, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! BlueMoonset (talk) 05:05, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! (already on WT:DYK, please look there also) - Passion: He was despised --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:24, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Date request missed on Kony 2012
Could you please return Kony 2012 back to the T:TDYK. It has a date request.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:07, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, you won't get help from me. I saw the date request. I saw no particular merit in it. --Orlady (talk) 14:57, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you comment at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:32, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Nelson's Greenbrier Distillery
Hi! I am very familiar with Nelson's Greenbrier Distillery and some of the dates/brands are incorrect. Can I provide you with this information, as well as the sources for updating? Also, do you happen to know why the Wiki account feeds into a page on Facebook? The current owners did not set it up. I appreciate your assistance! -- jdcharlton (talk) 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't fully understand your questions, but I'll try to answer them anyway. The article Nelson's Greenbrier Distillery is based primarily on the National Register nomination form, which was initially the only source of information I had on the history. Other sources exist. If you have additional published sources, the best place to discuss article changes is Talk:Nelson's Greenbrier Distillery.
 * Facebook has used Wikipedia content to populate Facebook-created pages like this one. If you have concerns about that page, you need to contact Facebook. --Orlady (talk) 16:35, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

You're mentioned
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DYK for Mackerel
Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:02, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

American University of London
What do you think of the latest edits here? Dougweller (talk) 08:45, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I reverted. --Orlady (talk) 13:54, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 15:54, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

You're invited! New England Wikimedia General Meeting
Message delivered by Dominic at 08:51, 11 April 2012 (UTC). Note: You can remove your name from this meetup invite list here.
 * I didn't realize you were in New England. For some reason I thought a bit further south. Of course there are other possibilities, but still none in New England...) --GRuban (talk) 15:52, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You're right -- I'm not in New England, but I've edited enough New England articles to lead someone to think otherwise. --Orlady (talk) 18:44, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

About Glover Prize
Hi Orlady. A WP:COI full disclosure: a 58 family member was short-listed for the prize... at some time recently. I looked it up, and there wasn't even an article for it. There, I've said it. That wasn't so bad after all! xxx --Shirt58 (talk) 15:42, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * As COI goes, that's pretty minor! --Orlady (talk) 18:45, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
- Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 12:04, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

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Witch Hazel
Sorry for the duplicate tag. I actually meant only the first one.

I guess you assume it was steam distillation because that's the method that's currently used for distilling witch hazel? That might be true, but from one of the links you sent (WP:V), shouldn't a source be provided to verify the opinion that was added to the entry (since it isn't in the source that was cited)? That was the reason for my citation request.

Of course, New Haven Business Magazine is a rather questionable source for information that I don't think is backed by reputable sources. Even E.E. Dickenson's "Indians' Secret" pamphlet states that it was Hawes who did the distillation, not the Native Americans. --71.200.35.243 (talk) 02:22, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Coins 'n Things
Hello! Your submission of Coins 'n Things at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 04:02, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary
Wishing Orlady a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talk about my edits? 10:49, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Joining in the good wishes, with 10,000 Easter eggs as a present (see my talk if you don't now from DYK), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:49, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Deletion review for 1983 America&
An editor has asked for a deletion review of 1983 America&. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 21:19, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

April 19

 * You might be interested in this.  31.185.201.32 (talk) 17:12, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for William Bell (photographer)
The Bushranger One ping only 00:03, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Camille du Gast
The Bushranger One ping only 00:04, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK hook for The North Carolina Community College System's Policy on the Admission of Undocumented Students in Prep 4
Hi: I was about to tell User:Catamount800 that I had changed the hook for this article in prep, but unless I'm misreading, you came up with the "U.S. citizenship" wording, where at the nominations page it was "undocumented"? I agree "undocumented" is less than clear, but it's not just a matter of citizenship; it's a matter of having a valid residency visa if they aren't citizens. So I changed it to "legal U.S. residency", leaving it still short enough. I hope you don't mind; thought I'd let you know in case you did. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:11, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing that. "Undocumented" clearly didn't work, as it's jargon that doesn't mean what the individual words mean. Your version is more accurate than mine was. --Orlady (talk) 21:06, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Kony 2012
Positive additions to an article are not what the DYK rules mean when they say "unstable". They mean, as Tony stated, edit warring. Because you were involved in the prior conversation regarding the article, I can only assume that this delay for such a pointless reason is both purposeful and vindictive. Silver seren C 03:09, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Are you currently still opposing the article? Could you comment on the talk and clear this up.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:56, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
You do a fantastic amount of work on WP:DYK and should be commended for your efforts. Good on ya. :)

LauraHale (talk) 05:01, 27 April 2012 (UTC) 

Zanzibar women's national football team
Thank you for taking the time to comment on Zanzibar women's national football team and to help resolve these issues. It is very much appreciated. --LauraHale (talk) 23:39, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. Interesting topic... --Orlady (talk) 00:10, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

H-13 (Michigan county highway) DYK
I have suggested an alternate hook for the article that does not use the SPS, see Template:Did you know nominations/H-13 (Michigan county highway).  Dough 48  72  04:04, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Moussaieff Red Diamond
Hi, Ncristella is at it again (twice today). Could you follow through on your blocking threat? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 15:47, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Beat you to it. (I blocked him before you wrote the above message.) --Orlady (talk) 16:27, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Help with DYK nom
Hello Orlady, BlueMoonset suggested that you are the person to offer me an opinion on my DYK nomination. Particularly, the use of primary sources for specific details not reported on in secondary sources. More generally, are there any changes I should make to move this nomination along? If you could please that a look at that nomination I would be very appreciative. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  18:53, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Coins 'N Things
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:06, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Nachrichten
Briefly following up on the German word 'Nachrichten' (news). My comment at WT:DYK was more along the lines of listings such as the one at News (disambiguation), and whether a similar listing there for German publications containing the equivalent word for 'news' would be useful or not. I know that some churches where the German and other names are equivalent are listed at such pages (e.g. St. Laurence's Church), and I've found that helpful in the past when looking up something on such matters. Carcharoth (talk) 06:32, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

License tagging for File:Ediblelogo.gif
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New Pages update
Hey :). A quick update on how things are going with the New Page Triage/New Pages Feed project. As the enwiki page notes, the project is divided into two chunks: the "list view" (essentially an updated version of Special:NewPages) and the "article view", a view you'll be presented with when you open up individual articles that contains a toolbar with lots of options to interact with the page - patrolling it, adding maintenance tags, nominating it for deletion, so on.

On the list view front, we're pretty much done! We tried deploying it to enwiki, in line with our Engagement Strategy on Wednesday, but ran into bugs and had to reschedule - the same happened on Thursday :(. We've queued a new deployment for Monday PST, and hopefully that one will go better. If it does, the software will be ready to play around with and test by the following week! :).

On the article view front, the developers are doing some fantastic work designing the toolbar, which we're calling the "curation bar"; you can see a mockup here. A stripped-down version of this should be ready to deploy fairly soon after the list view is; I'm afraid I don't have precise dates yet. When I have more info, or can unleash everyone to test the list view, I'll let you know :). As always, any questions to the talkpage for the project or mine. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:35, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Recall clerking
I'm updating User:MBisanz/Recall and was wondering if you would be willing to serve as a clerk?  MBisanz  talk 21:30, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Gentle nudge.  MBisanz  talk 15:33, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Pixie me
Dear Orlady: I put a note on my talk page. I appreciate your watching over DYKs, as they are (typically) new and not monitored by hardly anyone. So what you do is a mitzvah. Keep up the good work. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 12:16, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Peter Orno
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:06, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/1911 Michigan Wolverines football team
Can you take a look at Template:Did you know nominations/1911 Michigan Wolverines football team? I'm just pretty tired of it and it may need new eyes. I'm not feeling generous on QPQ right now considering the rather big backlog. I feel like I've reviewed 10 to 15 and there isn't anything getting closer to the backlog of unreviewed articles because of lack of QPQ requirements on a huge bunch of nominations... --LauraHale (talk) 12:14, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Barbasco trade
Hey, thanks for copyediting Mexican barbasco trade and catching my sloppy referencing. I guess i used page 37 in another article and just copied the entire citation without realizing that I was basically just referencing one page when i meant to reference the whole book, or at least longer passages. Thanks!·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 16:21, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * All part of reviewing it for DYK! (Page 37 is the source for the DYK hook.) --Orlady (talk) 16:31, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah yes - it was originally sourced as page 72-73 which I had used for another article. Then I just changed it to the correct page, but then all the citations came to lead to that page. Thanks again.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 16:45, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Antichamber
I sourced the section and added a hook suggestion. SL93 (talk) 01:35, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I verified everything except the quotes. It looks like they are in the video which I won't watch or source to the time. With the discussions going on the DYK page, I'm not sure if someone will say that I didn't technically review it even though I'm not inclined to work on an article. SL93 (talk) 02:07, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage prototype released
Hey Orlady! We've finally finished the NPT prototype and deployed it on enwiki. We'll be holding an office hours session on the 16th at 21:00 in #wikimedia-office to show it off, get feedback and plot future developments - hope to see you there! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 03:45, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Harcourt Morgan
Carabinieri (talk) 08:04, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Chamber of the Holocaust
Hi, are you the reviewer of this nom? I put a note on the template page a few days ago. Best, Yoninah (talk) 13:51, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks for the reminder. --Orlady (talk) 13:42, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Maryville, Tennessee and Apostolic Christian Academy
When you get a chance, take a look at the Maryville article under the private/parochial section. Some anon user is suggesting the Apostolic Christian Academy a scam. I'm not sure whether to remove the school, or if the website he references is a hit job. Bms4880 (talk) 13:25, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I removed the anonymous user's POV and the non-WP:EL compliant link. I couldn't see any content on that website, but all other indications are that it's a real school, albeit likely a deficient school. --Orlady (talk) 13:44, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Timber Creek, Northern Territory
Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:17, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Rachel Kollock McDowell
Thanks for your review of the article and DYK, and continued efforts to come up with a good hook! It was evading me.Parkwells (talk) 11:28, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Previous Rfd – Homestead Book Company resurrected
I am here as you were part of a previously Rfd discussion HERE. Based on the comments on the Rfd, I believe that this article could have been saved if it was cited better and written more in Wikipedia styling and formatting (Wikified article HERE). I have made substantial improvements to the article and reposted it. As you part of the discussion for Rfd (either you nominated or took part in the Rfd discussion), I wanted to personally notify you. While this is not an official Rfc, I would appreciate any feedback that you may have. I have not notified the original creator of the article as it does not look like they have made any contributions on Wikipedia since the article was deleted. --Morning277 (talk) 18:43, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage/New Pages Feed
Hey all :). A notification that the prototype for the New Pages Feed is now live on enwiki! We had to briefly take it down after an unfortunate bug started showing up, but it's now live and we will continue developing it on-site.

The page can be found at Special:NewPagesFeed. Please, please, please test it and tell us what you think! Note that as a prototype it will inevitably have bugs - if you find one not already mentioned at the talkpage, bring it up and I'm happy to carry it through to the devs. The same is true of any additions you can think of to the software, or any questions you might have - let me know and I'll respond.

Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:29, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Albert Brahms
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:04, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Odd MOSness
Hi Orlady, in this edit I'm confused by the addition of a top level heading that encompasses no content. Is that what you intended ? - Peripitus (Talk) 05:30, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed error. --Orlady (talk) 12:42, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Butt-Millet Memorial Fountain
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

re rename of Category:Episcopal Bishops of Washington
The caps change seems OK, but Episcopal dioceses are not necessarily named after the seat city; indeed, few of them are. Therefore the "D.C." part is incorrect and the renamed category should be Category:Episcopal bishops of Washington with only the capitalization changed. Mangoe (talk) 04:09, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Irish International University
After seeing a new editor at the list of unregistered etc, I noticed their edits at List of universities in the Republic of Ireland and removed a bogus university with no campus in Ireland. I'm wondering if the whole list needs cleaning, I see a lot of red links. Dougweller (talk) 06:59, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

East Tennessee
We may need to lock this article. Bms4880 (talk) 21:56, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Familial hyperestrogenism
Wow! That's so cool. Thanks for letting me know! el3ctr0nika (Talk | Contribs) 10:34, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

License status
Hi, Orlady. I'd like to improve my contributions to DYK and am simply curious about what you meant by your edit summary when swapping the hook in Prep area 4. . Quote (summary): "...the license status of the proposed image hook here is not clear." Please tell me, what kind of licence status would make it work for you? It might be important for my future noms also. Thanks in advance. Poeticbent talk 14:18, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Regarding the images, unfortunately, there was no indication at Commons of where and when the photographs were first published. We know when the photographs were made, but there is no indication that they were published early enough to qualify as "free" images now. --Orlady (talk) 14:44, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your concerns. By the way, image used as replacement, i.e. File:Kaas Niels.jpg, apparently did not have any information about the first publication either. To me, the license status looks virtually identical in both cases, no visible improvement from the image used before. Please tell me, have I overlooked something else? Poeticbent talk 16:34, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Addendum: Some of the portals I use for uploading actually specialize in scanning historical images, for example the government run http://audiovis.nac.gov.pl/ (as in DYK File:Tadeusz Lehr-Splawinski.jpg, DYK File:Nowy Targ 1940 - Dom Niemiecki (German Stationhouse).jpg and DYK File:Ferdynand Goetel (1936).jpg among others including the latest File:ORMO (Warsaw, 1946).jpg). The online scans provided by NAC similar to Bundesarchiv, constitute a digital library of pics never before published. At Commons, we are suppose to reveal where and when the photographs were first published as if there was anything more to say. That is a bit confusing perhaps. Thanks again. Poeticbent</b> <span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#FFFFFF;font-weight:bold;background:#FF88AF;border:1px solid #DF2929;padding:0.0em 0.2em;">talk 20:23, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Believe me, the situation gave me pain. To be featured in DYK, an image must have a "free" license, which generally means the same thing as a license acceptable to Commons. Commons often needs information about the location and date of the first publication of an image because the copyright status in many jurisdictions is determined from that information. The selected license for the photos you uploaded at Commons requires that the photo have been published in Poland before 1994 without a copyright notice. The images that you uploaded at Commons were obviously created in 1940, but Commons had no indication of when they were first published, and I couldn't find that information on the websites that you credited when you uploaded the files. I believe that the photos qualify as free, but I could not prove it. The Commons page has a message saying "To uploader: Please provide where and when the image was first published", as that information is needed to verify that the license is valid.
 * The other issue is the image File:Kaas Niels.jpg. I researched that one, too, and I agree with you that the Commons documentation for that image is not perfect. The selected license for that image has a copyright term of "life of the author plus 70 years". The author (that is the painter of the portrait) is unknown, so we cannot know for sure when that person died. However, the creator needs to have died before 1942. The information at Commons indicated that the image was published in a Danish book in 1912. That by itself establishes a strong likelihood that the author died before 1942. More importantly, though, everything about the artwork in that portrait is consistent with the portrait having been created in the 16th century (during the life of the subject). Considering that evidence, I concluded that the image qualified, in spite of the lack of documentation on the painter. --Orlady (talk) 00:26, 2 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Orlady, I really need to talk it over with you, because there's a potential for an on-going problem, as the resources available to us online expand. The requirement of some first publication (whatever that means), probably a brick and mortar book or something, is redundant in case of databases such as the Bundesarchiv and NAC. The images digitized by them are free. They are all GDFL compliant. However, none of them have a record of being used previously. In fact, I have met with Vancouver Public Library director of public archives not long ago (as part of Wikipedia loves libraries initiative), and I know that massive transfer of data directly to Commons from public archives can be made (including manually, by volunteers like you and I). The images are all good to go at DYK, because of the already expired copyright. There is no reason to expect problems when using this procedure. Thanks. <b style="font-family:Papyrus; color:darkblue;">Poeticbent</b> <span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#FFFFFF;font-weight:bold;background:#FF88AF;border:1px solid #DF2929;padding:0.0em 0.2em;">talk 03:46, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not a good person to discuss this with, as I am not closely engaged with maintaining copyright information for images. It sounds like we need to find a licensing expert at Commons to help resolve your questions. --Orlady (talk) 03:53, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Wyman-Gordon
Orlady, I was wondering if you could take a look at this one. There were some close paraphrasing issues, including structural constructs, which Nikkimaria eventually dug in a reworded herself, but she wanted a check on her work, and no one's stopped by. This isn't something I really understand, so I don't feel qualified to do so. It's been sitting since May 24. There was also a caveat entered by Carabinieri as to whether a 50,000 ton press could be the biggest machine if there were 59,000 ton aircraft carriers; it'd be nice to have an independent voice as to whether ALT1 is necessary or not. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:31, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Later addition: Nikkimaria thinks that Template:Did you know nominations/Long Point (Cape Cod) needs an uninvolved eye to take a look at tone in the article; there's a disagreement between her and the nominator. Again, I'm not up on the nuances of tone, so I thought of you. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:08, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Bird Neighbors
Yngvadottir (talk) 16:02, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Illinois Manufacturers' Association
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:04, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Seline Hizli-Did You Know
Thanks for your help here :) Eshlare (talk) 17:27, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

CMU Page
I am reaching out to try and discuss your opinions expressed in the talk section and the main article. Since the PWU California page redirects to the CMU page and people who look to Wikipedia as a reliable source of information may be searching for how they can obtain PWU official transcripts and documents for their employers or for other academic institutions, I am trying to have the article reflect this type of information. Readers of the article need to know that CMU is considered a separate institution by accreditation, that Education Services is the custodian of their education records and that the State of California recognizes ES as this custodian, so they know the documents they may be getting from ES are official. A footnote isn't enough as most readers never click on these items. Your edits removing some of this more important information do not serve the readers of the main article. I'm not sure why you have such a strong opinion against PWU, the California Bureau (past and present) and Education Service. If you would like to share this information I would be willing to listen and respond. I am not trying to defend PWU California as much as I am trying to present a two sided account of some the PWU California history. It was a California State Approved schools and although the State had faults, that status was worth something. Wikipedia encourages diverse opinions in an article. In fact, they feel the different opinions make articles stronger. You can strongly disagree with issues, but it doesn't mean that my different opinions should be hindered or edited out. That just leads to the kind of edit wars that got this article restricted in the first place. We can go to arbitration before we go that route. I am only trying to include incomplete information or parts of previously cited reports and materials that can clarify matters and shed a different, perhaps more balanced light on the Article. If there was an error in the GAO report, I'm not trying to sweep the whole report under the rug, I'm trying to fairly represent all the facts. There were degree mills, I just don't believe PWU California particularly after State Approval was one of them. (PWU Hawaii is a different matter.) I believe the materials I am adding should be included. If I state something badly or you want to rewrite a portion of a post to make it better or more unbiased, that is fine. A total reversion of posts with no real explanation only seems to show an attitude of "if I don't agree with something, it's not in the article." My purpose is that I do think that CMU is a good institution and is deserving of some legitimate distancing from the pre 2005 PWU regime. If graduates were graduates of PWU California, they should be included in the article. If they were graduates of another PWU program, or you can't tell which PWU school they attended, they should not be included. I look forward to your response and hope we can coexist peacefully and to the betterment of Wikipedia and the main article.Angelone7749 (talk) 19:29, 6 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Based on the above comment and the complaints you posted about me on User talk:Keilana, I gather that one of your concerns is about your desire for the article to aid former PWU students in identifying "Education Services" as the official custodian of records for PWU - California and finding its contact information. (That is far from the only area of conflict associated with your edits to California Miramar University, but that's what you told Keilana about. I'll respond to that one issue first.) Please be aware that Wikipedia, as an encyclopedia, is not a guidebook or directory on any topic and does not exist to provide directory information of any sort. See WP:NOT for more details. The footnote in the article regarding the records custodian for PWU is appropriate for an encyclopedia article. If you want to create an online guide for former PWU students, please find another platform (for example, you probably could create a Facebook page). --Orlady (talk) 20:37, 6 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your quick response and suggestions. This was the type of feedback I was seeking. I do not feel that adding detail to a post automatically makes it qualify as a guidebook or a directory but I can see your overall point.  It is appropriate that you noticed the post to Keilana. I await your responses to my other questions and comments in the near future.Angelone7749 (talk) 00:34, 7 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Further to my comments, I have to agree that the bare-URL reference citation pointing to http://www.bppe.ca.gov/transcripts/custodian_records.shtml is not real helpful. It's also not the way Wikipedia likes to see references cited. (That's why articles sometimes have Template:bare urls placed on them.) If you want to increase the information value of the article, I suggest that you look up the URL, find the details that belong in a reference citation, and add them to the article. The "bare urls" template that I linked to includes advice on what to do. --Orlady (talk) 00:57, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Richard Benjamin Harrison
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:07, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Barony and Castle of Kilbirnie
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:03, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Proposed DYK Signpost article
I'm wondering if you would like to be involved in this as a consultant. Please see My suggestion at Signpost and Viriditas response and suggestion. The gist of this is that I find the DYK process an ongoing education. A hands-on experience that can't be beat for learning the ropes of building an article. The learning continues with each article I get involved with over there. Viriditas suggests I author a Special Report for Signpost, involving a DYK admin and someone from Signpost. Let me know what you think.Maile66 (talk) 22:02, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * A worthy idea. In principle, I'd like to help, but I'm covered up in real life for the next few weeks. --Orlady (talk) 13:55, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Robert Lewandowski
Thnx for the protection on Robert Lewandowski, was frustrating just trying to keep order on it. --> Halmstad,  Charla to moi  15:15, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Civilian Conservation Corps Camp in Koke'e State Park
Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

WP:RFPP
You have a request at RFPP. Jacqueline Fernandez. Regards, Armbrust, B.Ed. <sup style="color:#E3A857;">WrestleMania XXVIII <sub style="color:#008000;">The Undertaker 20–0  10:13, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Possible Queue 6 late substitution or addition
You an administrator who is quite active at WP:DYK, so I wanted to call your attention to a particularly timely hook for the next queue Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know. You may want to make a late addition or substitution.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:27, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Joey McCarthy hook
My intent in the shortened hook was that the "J. McCarthy started racing" would evoke Joe McCarthy, in hope of the hook landing in the "quirky last position". Since it didn't though, no worries on the expansion - not being the last spot makes the 'normal' spelling better. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 00:16, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Leydig cell hypoplasia
The DYK project (nominate)) 00:06, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Shopping Center/centre
Hi

I just noticed your post on the talk page of Shopping Mall (here). Did you take your suggestions any further?

I ask because I am curious about the etymology of the word/phrase "mall/shopping mall". For example I cannot find anything that refers to "mall" prior to the 1960s as meaning anything other than a tree lined walk, with the exception of pall-mall which is taken supposedly from the game.

Most reliable info I can see gives the latest shopping "mall" definition as being from the 1960s. Indeed the article itself says "One of the earliest examples includes the Valley Fair Shopping Center in Appleton WI which opened in March 1955", which shows that the phrase used was still "shopping center" at that point. Chaosdruid (talk) 22:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

WP:DRN Notice
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "International Technological University". Thank you. --Hasteur (talk) 16:23, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Sonne (navigation)
Orlady, a couple of DYK reviews you've made have just gotten responses. One is the Sonne review in the header. Another is the Template:Did you know nominations/Cristiada (film) DYK. I found these while trying to finish a cleanup on all the remaining May DYK noms, plus the first couple of days of June. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 05:29, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Did both. --Orlady (talk) 07:53, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Did you notice that both have already been chosen for Prep 4? BlueMoonset (talk) 14:02, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Cristiada (film)
You wrote "Article and ALT1 are OK." What did you do to verify Alt1? ? Hipocrite (talk) 12:12, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Preston University, Pakistan
See the talk page. I think it still has only 2 accredited campuses, and it seems to be the same as Preston University. It's still on the Oregon list - either they are confused or our article is wrong. Dougweller (talk) 09:09, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Category up for deletion
Hi Orlady, just visiting from exile. A category I created is now up for deletion. I made a small attempt to explain and defend it, but the trend seems to be that "poignant" though it is, we just can't have this kind of trash on Wikipedia. I do think the category should be kept, but am not fond of pitched battles and would rather walk away than put myself through what I did on DYK. I wasn't going to bother you with it, but decided today to let and Gerda you know about this, in case you want to weigh in. Categories for discussion/Log/2012 June 18. Marrante (talk) 19:57, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Somehow, I forgot to add a header to this yesterday. Whoops. Marrante (talk) 05:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)