User talk:Orlik8

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Weegeerunner (talk) 22:44, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Flav, the band's founder and singer and I discover that my account is blocked, I don't understand why. Of course there are legal threats on my band's page but that's precisely what I wanted to stop, and it seems that Wikipedia removed itself the slandering contents. I also see that this page is about to be deleted, and it's quite strange for a band playing during 20 years, who had the same problems of false accusations on other Wikipedia pages, but at last always got Wikipedia's support. parisviolence@laposte.net


 * Wikipedia has a zero-tolerance policy for legal threats, regardless of the merits of the threat. Any editor that makes a legal threat or takes any legal action against either the WikiMedia Foundation or another editor is automatically blocked from editing until either the legal action is resolved or the threat is receded. Your account was blocked for making a legal threat to other editors and not over vandalism. —Farix (t &#124; c) 11:44, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I didn't make any legal threat against anyone on Wikipedia, I just wrote that some accusations against the band were false, and only taken from hostile forums telling lies about my work and my private life; so of course the case is being studied by my lawyer. Telling this only fact to avoid people relieve a slander doesn't make a threat I think; and also think it's quite fair from me just to inform people that they may involuntarily be writing illegal content, instead of taking screen shots and give them to a court. Anyhow my only wish is all this to be stopped as soon peacefuly as possible.


 * You should be unblocked now. Let me know if you have any difficulties. S warm   we ♥ our hive  16:16, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Notice
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Legal Threat at Paris Violence. Thank you. Neil N  talk to me 05:03, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for making legal threats or taking legal action. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice:. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia while the threats stand or the legal action is unresolved. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  05:40, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Flav, the band's founder and singer and I discover that my account is blocked, I don't understand why. Of course there are legal threats on my band's page but that's precisely what I wanted to stop, and it seems that Wikipedia removed itself the slandering contents. I also see that this page is about to be deleted, and it's quite strange for a band playing during 20 years, who had the same problems of false accusations on other Wikipedia pages, but at last always got Wikipedia's support.

Hello, I didn't make any legal threat against anyone on Wikipedia, I just wrote that some accusations against the band were false, and only taken from hostile forums telling lies about my work and my private life; so of course the case is being studied by my lawyer. Telling this only fact to avoid people relieve a slander doesn't make a threat I think; and also think it's quite fair from me just to inform people that they may involuntarily be writing illegal content, instead of taking screen shots and give them to a court. Anyhow my only wish is all this to be stopped as soon peacefuly as possible.

Hi. I'm the author of the controversy section a few days ago. I shouldn't have done it - at least in that way. I did it because I found the matter is discussed almost everyday on social networks, and I think it has became an important matter about the band (true or not - people are really getting emotional on this), and many bands on wikipedia have their controversy section anyway. I did myself get way too much emotional writing this edit : I only relayed the info given on the linked forum but I admit the way I did it was quite aggressive and I think such tone is really not appropriate in a wikipedia article. On top of that I checked a little the forum's claims and found that one cited comment on a political site is contested by flav who says his identity was stolen to write it, I don't know whether it's true or not but it made me realise how easily the comment could have been forged for the occasion (it really looks like it eventually could have been written only to prove the forum's point when you think about the way it is written). So I came back to water my "controversy" edit down to the strict minimum, I thought of something like "There's an ongoing controversy on the band political neutrality and practices after an incriminating article was posted on a french forum", and maybe link to it so people could make their own opinion. I would be the first one to be happy if all that is on this forum would turn out to be false. If it is the case, I really think you have every right to bring the forum article's author before the court, considering the awfulness of those claims. I think because you didn't make a statement against those claims, lots of people take them as granted. It's up to you but I think you should really make a statement at least on your webpage, or soon or later someone else will again read the forum article, get emotional (the article is well made in that way), and go edit PV's wikipedia page again - note that I'm not at all linked to those on the forum (I'm not even registered on it), and only responsible for the last "controversy" (I didn't pay attention to the history, and didn't realise it had already been done before coming back to see my edits blanked). On top of that, you must realise that other people are subject to slander themselves for advertising, distributing/selling, wanting to book, covering, and even for only listening to your band (you know how it works with those "antifa for antifism's sake" - that seems to be the trend in french punk rock nowadays). So just blanking every mention of the problem is really not the solution in my opinion. But having already done more then too much on this I let it up to you. I really hope that those claims are false and that light will be made on all that - sincere apologies if it is the case. 94.111.95.138 (talk) 13:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)