User talk:Orthogonal/archive 27 Nov 2003 - 31 May 2004

Slope edit
Sorry, I thought I had already replied to your message. Your edit on slope was indeed accurate, and I can see that clarification being very useful to people who are not from a mathematical/scientific background. I have also made th word "delta" into a link. Good edit, thankee muchly. Boffy b 20:36, 27 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Note to self
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=85391&cid=7442422

This looks like it may be where the slash trolls mod each other up.

Thank you
Thank for your help with my query at the Village Pump in regards to declaring my interests.

iHoshie 11:40, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Several days ago you joined the discussion of whether Brunswick or Braunschweig should be the home of the article on the German city. After a brief discussion, the question was moved from the Votes for deletion page to Talk:Brunswick. Quite a bit of fact-finding has occurred since then, but the decision appears to have reached an impasse. Could I ask you to take a few minutes to review the facts presented on Talk:Brunswick and share your current thoughts? Thanks. Rossami 22:31, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Easter Bradford's fine whines
[Posted by anonymous coward at top of page, contrary to my request]

RE:Easter Bradford

Hi. I *AM* Easter Bradford. I was recently pointed here by a friend. This is a buch of crap, really, and since "Orthogonal" has been the most vocal "anti-Easter-Bradford" person I figure this is the best place to post.

Despite your insistance that I was attempting to promote myself, I simply copied my own industry biography and pasted it here for an entry. Farbeit for me to decide, but I figured I had contributed enough to the world to be entered.

As far as I am concerned, I would prefer that the entirety of entires about me including talk pages simply be removed. I will be taking that action shortly. Obviously I am "famous" enough to have people gossiping, and I'm afraid I cannot allow any part of my reputation to be sullied because there is a message board (of any nature) being used to discuss me in untruth.

...Easter Bradford...

good work on VfD: Finlay McWalter, Fuzheado
[title by Finlay McWalter orthogonal 01:50, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)]

Hey, good work on fixing that shitstorm on VfD. That's the kind of stuff that makes be turn off and play video games. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 23:38, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)


 * Thanks "O", I got your message and readded that entry. Fuzheado 23:54, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Thanks guys! orthogonal 01:50, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Apology from Dandrake
Dear Ortho: ACKKK! Some kinda malignant freaking edit-conflict there. Muchos apologies. I don't know what happened, except that there was some kinda visible glitch in the update process, and I'm sort of tempted to blame the recent cache problems that have the primary symptom of always requiring me (and some others) to do a control-reload in order to see one's new changes (and some other cases of invisible changes that I can't categorize precisely). Whatever the cause, I'll do even more control-reloads now. And double-check diffs after anything that looks peculiar. Dandrake 01:36, Feb 17, 2004 (UTC)

It's "orthogonal", not "Ortho", please. Hey, things happen, it was pretty clear once I started looking that it was an accident. When a Wiki page gets long -- as VfD often does -- some browsers can't accommodate the full length as editable text. I'm using Firefox, and having no problems. As it's available for many OSes, you might want to consider giving it a try if you're not using it already, to see if it eliminates any problems for you. orthogonal 01:50, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)

VfD
Hi orthogonal. I never meant to upset you and I apologise if you have felt put out by this. I think we may have had conflicting goals on VfD last night.

I'm well aware you were working on VfD then but I spent an hour and a half trying to reduce the page size so having such a long notice went completely against my aims to reduce a 114kb page to a 40kb one. I'm sorry if you felt it was more important fot the notice to stay than I did, but the chances are those people affected would not have seen the notice anyway before someone removed it completely. There were enough arguments over whether or not we should have the VfD boilerplate notice on VfD, so something as large as your message would have been removed very quickly. Perhaps you should have contacted the people concerned rather than having a notice on an already too large page.

Your notice was there for the entire hour you closed VfD, so it's unfair to say I removed it after 15 minutes. It didn't seem a relevant thing to have it there after you had finished working on it. I trusted that you had completed sorting out the edit conflicts, and didn't see any advantage to telling everyone this. If anyone's comments had gone astray, they would have gone to the talk page anyway, and seen your message there. Also, once I had finished reducing the page size, it would be quite unlikely anyone would have been able to check for anything missing anyway, so leaving the notice there after two-thirds of the page had been removed seemed largely of no use.

I'm not trying to discount your work here. Sorting out that mess was a great thing to do. The point is that I trusted you had done that well, so there was no need to worry about telling people.

I realize I could have edited the pointer to the talk page better now, but at the time I had been awake for 20 hours and it wasn't really the most important thing on my mind. Sorry.

Thanks for all the work you put in to solving the edit conflict.

Angela. 06:52, Feb 17, 2004 (UTC)


 * I realize I could have edited the pointer to the talk page better now, but at the time I had been awake for 20 hours and it wasn't really the most important thing on my mind. Sorry. [emphasis orthogonal's]


 * Angela, it's just a matter of showing others the respect you'd hope they'd accord you.


 * There's a certain type of passive-aggressive person who basically says, "I work so hard for that I can't bother to slow down to be polite and consider others' feelings. What I'm doing is too important to be impeded by mere politeness."


 * Also, once I had finished reducing the page size, it would be quite unlikely anyone would have been able to check for anything missing anyway, so leaving the notice there after two-thirds of the page had been removed seemed largely of no use. [emphasis orthogonal's]


 * And that just says "What I (Angela) was doing was more important that what you were doing anyway, so stuff it, orthogonal, Wikipedia's my turf."


 * And indeed, with that attitude, I'm not surprised that people are more than willing to leave Wikipedia to you. orthogonal 00:40, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)


 * You are completely misinterpreting what I have said. I'm not saying what I did was more important - I'm saying that once half the page had gone, it would be practically impossible for anyone to check whether the edit conflict had affected them anyway. This doesn't mean you shouldn't have sorted it out, it means that once you had, people have to trust that you did it right as it isn't possible for them to check it. I fail to see how moving your comment is being impolite. I thought your complaint was that people might not notice it, not that it was offensive for it to be removed. I do not appreciate your personal attacks on me. Angela. 12:26, Feb 18, 2004 (UTC)

top-posting
Hi orthogonal!

Your user page suggests that you might be interested in the topic of top-posting. I recently tried to brush up the article a little, but I'm not sure about my neutrality on this subject. I'd much appreciate your feedback, in case you're interested. Thanks. --Nikai 16:59, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)


 * Done, unfortunately with a lot of unsubstantiated opinion which I hope will be provide a base for a more rigorous treatment. And I hate those salmon and yellow backgrounds, so I changed one to grey. orthogonal 23:53, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)


 * Thanks! --Nikai 06:58, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

orthogonal, trying to reach you
orthogonal, I'd like you to consider contributing to my blog A9watch.blogspot.com. Please write me, a9watch@aecnews.com.

R./

Sorry, I didn't see the "You have new messages" messages. Thanks you for your offeer, I'll take a look at your blog. orthogonal 06:42, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Leipzig battle
The map was fixed :)

At any rate, I found a whole repository of pictures here: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Spezial:Whatlinkshere&target=Meyers_Konversationslexikon

WhisperToMe 05:34, 18 May 2004 (UTC)

your image
I'm guessing from the image of the new skin you've posted that you don't have the font Verdana installed. That's just a guess; if I'm right, you can override the font choice or install Verdana. If I'm wrong maybe someone will have a better guess. :) - Nunh-huh 09:07, 31 May 2004 (UTC)

No, that's the thing, I do have it installed. And just to be certain, I've just tested that by making Verdana my defualt serif font in Firefox. The new look still looks bad. orthogonal 09:25, 31 May 2004 (UTC)

Oh dear god. Part of the problem seems to be that I prefer a "descresed text size" for Wikipedia; otherwise Wikipedia's font size in teh new version is much larger tnan other web pages. But at the smaller size, the new look doesn't work well, and textarea vboxes (for editting) suck.orthogonal

I'm in OK shape (I only had to increase the text size to make it readable) but soon I hope there will a gallery of what people have done with thier style sheets and how to do it yourself.... -- Nunh-huh 09:44, 31 May 2004 (UTC)