User talk:Oryzaa

March 2024
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because your account is being used only for vandalism. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. The Wordsmith Talk to me 00:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Both of you are protecting those villains, and shut down the victims who seek a justice??
I'm newbie here and I don't know how to contact @The Wordsmith @331dot personally, so it seems like i only can use this. I just want to ask to you guys, both of you block a person like me, who just want to protect pages about my country from vandalisms and manipulations created by racist people from Malaysia? I never attack anyone. I just want to protect pages about Indonesia from vandalisms and manipulations from racist users like Malaysians. At what side both of you stand for? Both of you are choose to give protections to those racist users from Malaysia who always attack any pages with Indonesia topics?? Can't you see who's the villains and who's the victim? Why don't both of you are also blocking those Malaysian users permanently from Wikipedia? I see those Malaysian users are still attacking any pages about Indonesia freely. So there's no neutrality in Wikipedia? *Sorry if my English is not good enough. Oryzaa (talk) 03:31, 21 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Please read back through your comment above. Statements like "racist users from Malaysia" are personal attacks. —C.Fred (talk) 03:33, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Pardon? Hmm. Sorry if i say this, Sir. But honestly, i think your statement is a logical fallacy. Oryzaa (talk) 03:41, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The burden is on you: if you are going to claim that some (all?) users from Malaysia are racist, you must demonstrate it by pointing to plainly racist edits. Looking at your contributions, you haven't done that. You've removed content from articles without explanation. —C.Fred (talk) 03:44, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * My contributions are protecting some pages from wrong information and wrong explanations, which created by those racist. Of course you also want Wikipedia be a reliable and trusted source, right? You also don't what everyone in this world read wrong informations, fake history, etc right? If you think i made a mistake, please apologize me. I'm just a newbie user. :-) Oryzaa (talk) 04:04, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * (Edit a typo)
 * My contributions are protecting some pages from wrong information and wrong explanations, which created by those racist. Of course you also want Wikipedia be a reliable and trusted source, right? You also don't want everyone in this world read wrong informations, fake history, etc right? If you think i made a mistake, please apologize me. I'm just a newbie user. Oryzaa (talk) 04:54, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * You may go back and fix typos- you don't need to duplicate your comment, though you may need to open the edit window by clicking "edit" instead of using "Reply".
 * Wikipedia does not expect it to be trusted blindly, nor does it claim that what is presented is valid; see the general disclaimer. Sources are presented to readers so they can evaluate and judge them for themselves in determining what they think or believe. If those sources are not being summarized accurately, yes, we want that fixed, but you need to tell people what you are doing by an edit summary or by using the article talk page.
 * Your accusations of racism are serious, and serious accusations need to be backed up with serious evidence. Someone posting incorrect information- if they did- does not automatically mean that they are racist or against your country. You haven't provided examples of racist edits or any other evidence. 331dot (talk) 08:33, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I use mobile phone and i can't find "edit" button. I think you only haven't know about the issue. You must read this first:
 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketuanan_Melayu
 * That's the reason why so many people from that country are aggressively vandalize in any pages about Indonesia and other Southeast Asian topics.
 * Their vandalism activities including: they delete informations about valid place of origin, they delete historical explanations, they change informations and historical explanations to informations and historical explanations based on their own racist views (usually without valid references), and many more!
 * Not only in pages about Indonesia, but sometimes they also vandalize in other pages about Thailand, Singapore, Vietnam, the Philippines, China and other Asian topics. You can ask other Wikipedia users from Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore, the Philippines, and Vietnam if you don't believe me. Oryzaa (talk) 10:56, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * If it were truly just a matter of "wrong information", you would be able to point to sources for each of your edits to show how your changes are supported by the sources—and you'd have focused on the sources in the discussion.
 * Instead, you keep accusing other editors of racism. Honestly, it raises a legitimate question about just what your motives are in editing: are you here to make sure the encyclopedia presents material from a neutral point of view and backed up by reliable sources, or are you advancing a pro-Indonesian, or at least anti-Malaysian, agenda through your edits?
 * I'm not going to pursue that question; instead, I am going to assume good faith that you do have Wikipedia's best interests in mind and are just trying to keep the presentation neutral. I suggest that you assume good faith in those other editors as well and reframe your discussion by only addressing how facts are misrepresented. —C.Fred (talk) 13:17, 23 March 2024 (UTC)