User talk:Osarius/Archive 6

Kharat surname AFD
As you participated in WP:Articles for deletion/Kharat surname, I thought you'd like to know that I've opened WP:Articles for deletion/Kharat surname (2nd nomination).

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New Page Triage engagement strategy released
Hey guys!

I'm dropping you a note because you filled out the New Page Patrol survey, and indicated you'd be interested in being contacted about follow-up work. This is to notify you that we've finally released both the initial documentation about the project and also the engagement strategy, which sets out how we plan to work with the community on this. Please give both a read, and leave any comments or suggestions you have on the talkpage, on my talkpage, or in my inbox -.

It's awesome to finally get to start work on this! :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 02:36, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Leonard Rosoman
Hello Osarius. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Leonard Rosoman, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The Guardian obituary had plenty of evidence to support notability when the A7 was raised. Thank you. Fæ (talk) 13:03, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Formatting mdashs using Advisor.js
Hi. Just to make you aware that on the two recent occasions when you used this bot on United Kingdom you changed the title of pictures and rendered them redlinks.--''' SabreBD  (talk ) 19:18, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Page Triage newsletter
Hey guys!

Thanks to all of you who have commented on the New Page Triage talkpage. If you haven't had a chance yet, check it out; we're discussing some pretty interesting ideas, both from the Foundation and the community, and moving towards implementing quite a few of them :).

In addition, on Tuesday 13th March, we're holding an office hours session in #wikimedia-office on IRC at 19:00 UTC (11am Pacific time). If you can make it, please do; we'll have a lot of stuff to show you and talk about, including (hopefully) a timetable of when we're planning to do what. If you can't come, for whatever reason, let me know on my talkpage and I'm happy to send you the logs so you can get an idea of what happened :). Regards, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:51, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

SimSig
Would you care to open a discussion on the talk page about the perceived COI? Jezhotwells (talk) 00:32, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * See Talk:SimSig. Osarius     Talk 00:43, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage newsletter
Hey all!

Thanks to everyone who attended our first office hours session; the logs can be found here, if you missed it, and we should be holding a second one on Thursday, 22 March 2012 at 18:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. I hope to see you all there :).

In the meantime, I have greatly expanded the details available at New Page Triage: there's a lot more info about precisely what we're planning. If you have ideas, and they aren't listed there, bring them up and I'll pass them on to the developers for consideration in the second sprint. And if you know anyone who might be interested in contributing, send them there too!

Regards, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 00:21, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of ERDAS APOLLO page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERDAS_APOLLO)
Hi, I have been trying to create an appropriate page for ERDAS APOLLO. To do this, I used existing wikipedia pages from similar products as an example. The descriptions on some of those pages go into a lot more detail about those products, such as naming, pricing, functionality, etc. Examples: AutoCAD, ArcGIS Server, ArcGIS Explorer, SOCET SET, ERDAS IMAGINE. I feel like I really pared it down to basic information that is so much less than these sites describe, yet my page is still being deleted as "blatant advertising". Can you please tell me what I need to do to get my page up there without being deleted?

Thanks Keith134 (talk) 18:24, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello there! Thanks for your question. When I patrol new pages, I use my previous experience of patrolling pages, the Manual of Style & WP:Advert to help me make an informed decision on what action to take on a specific article. When I read through the article you created, a few things - many subtle - gave me the impression that it could be an advertisement masquerading as an article. For instance:


 * 1) The all caps title - many people who wish to gain exposure, or feel the subject is important in some way personal to them, type the title in all caps. In Wikipedia, this doesn't expose the article, or rank it higher in search listings. I see from the other articles you linked to, i.e ERDAS IMAGINE, that this is not the case in this instance.
 * 2) The style of writing - You say you used other articles as a kind of template. Good, sort of. We do encourage this on Wikipedia - after all, there would be no need for a Manual of Style otherwise, but if a page you used as a template has a few problems (usually shown by dated maintenance tags at the top of the article), then try and find another.
 * 3) Lack of links - A lack of links in articles may mean that the content has been copy/pasted from a source - sometimes breaking copyright. Ensure you add links to relevant articles.
 * 4) Lists and bullet points - a lot of lists or bullet points (except on talk pages or disambiguation/list pages) can be used for promotion of the subject.


 * I recommend you read the Manual of Style. If you want your article back, it's definitely possible. Contact the deleting administrator and ask for the page to be userfy'd. The article will be restored to your userspace (i.e User:Keith134/ERDAS APOLLO) where you can work on it. :If you would like, I can actively work on the article once restored with you to ensure it meets standards. Kind regards, Osarius     Talk 18:44, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello and thank you for your response. I have worked on the article extensively and believe that it now is close to meeting Wikipedia standards.  I have added a number of third-party references.  I didn't have any bullet points in the article; did you mean the section titles? Are they satisfactory?
 * Also wasn't entirely sure what you meant by dated maintenance tags?
 * I am going to post the changes that I made to [ERDAS APOLLO] now; your help in ensuring that the article is satisfactory would be much appreciated. - Keith134 (talk) 18:06, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm sorry but the article appears to have been moved, and then deleted, before I got a chance to look at it! All I can do is wish you better luck next time. Regards, Osarius     Talk 20:48, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * -_- Ok...I have reposted the article: ERDAS APOLLO. Thank you again for your assistance! - Keith134 (talk) 21:39, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, I've moved the article to User:Keith134/Erdas_Apollo where we can work on it unhindered. An important thing to note though is not to add tags to the top of the article. The tag is depreciated, and it also adds it the the hidden Speedy Deletion categories - meaning it is more likely to be deleted. I won't be able to review tonight, but I will have a look over the next few days. Regards, Osarius      Talk 21:47, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Chat with Anon
Hello from Paris,

For the moment I'm a little lost reading your message. My english is not as perfect as I wish but I keep on learning. I really don't understand all the Wikipedia rules...

... So could you help me to find the right way to avoid to be deleted.

Thank you very much in advance. Kind regards. Cool-morning-lights — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.247.9.200 (talk) 20:05, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

user:jpmeena
ya that was kind of violation to 'assuming good faith' but was a warning message only. I have removed it to put another message. Jpmeena (talk) 06:59, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The reiteration of common sense statement simply emphasizes the newness of article and required nature of edits. This, I think in no sense displays ownership or violation of 'AGF' policy. Should I remove that too? If yes, I would. Definitely. JP MEE NA (talk) 18:56, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Struan Douglas
I've declined speedy on the grounds of him being capped for Scotland, but have tagged it as a mess. I've given some advice to the author, and I think he could do with some more help. Peridon (talk) 15:11, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for this. I've drastically cleanedup the article to meet MoS. Osarius     Talk 15:59, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice job there! Peridon (talk) 17:59, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
''Thanks! Moved to here.''

help triage some feedback
Hey guys.

I appreciate this isn't quite what you signed up for, but I figured as people who are already pretty good at evaluating whether material is useful or not useful through Special:NewPages, you might be interested :). Over the last few months we've been developing the new Article Feedback Tool, which features a free text box. it is imperative that we work out in advance what proportion of feedback is useful or not so we can adjust the design accordingly and not overwhelm you with nonsense.

This is being done through the Feedback Evaluation System (FES), a tool that lets editors run through a stream of comments, selecting their value and viability, so we know what type of design should be promoted or avoided. We're about to start a new round of evaluations, beginning with an office hours session tomorrow at 18:00 UTC. If you'd like to help preemptively kill poor feedback, come along to #wikimedia-office and we'll show you how to use the tool. If you can't make it, send me an email at or drop a note on my talkpage, and I'm happy to give you a quick walkthrough in a one-on-one session :).

All the best, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:34, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

User: 173.231.157.74
Hi, I saw you welcomed 173.231.157.74 with a vandal-fighting message although the user has no history of doing so. Was this a mistake? -- Gourami Watcher    (Gulp) 12:39, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, yes more than likely it was - the vandal and anti-vandal templates are right next to each other in Twinkle - small slip of the mouse! I've replaced the template with the correct one. Thanks for pointing that out. Osarius     Talk 12:48, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

AAC
I have requested an account on the AAC account creation interface. This message is to prove this fact. Osarius     Talk 13:23, 23 March 2012 (UTC) Cheers, Mlpearc (powwow ) 00:58, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your interest in helping other users to create accounts here at ACC. Unfortunately, your application was unsuccessful on this occasion. This is because: 1). The requirement for ALL users given access to the account creation interface are to be identified to the Wikimedia Foundation due to the handling of private data. 2). There is no particular backlog or shortage of users on the team at this time. Please feel free to follow the process for identification and then ask for a review of this request in a few months.
 * Thank you for your response, Mlpearc. I understand that all users are required to be identified, but after reading the identification pages, there are no clear instructions on how to identify myself. I have read the procedure which links me to the noticeboard, but the noticeboard is read-only. If you could tell me, or link the clear instructions to me, I would be happy to do that. I shall consider re-applying in a few months. Regards, Osarius     Talk 18:19, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I have identified myself now after speaking to Okeyes (WMF). <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; color: white; background: green; font-family: 'Arial Rounded MT Bold',Arial,Sans-serif">Osarius     Talk 21:23, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

A big NPT update
Hey! Big update on what the developers have been working on, and what is coming up:

coding
 * Fixes for the "moved pages do not show up in Special:NewPages" and "pages created from redirects do not show up in Special:NewPages" bugs have been completed and signed off on. Unfortunately we won't be able to integrate them into the existing version, but they will be worked into the Page Triage interface.
 * Coding has been completed on three elements; the API for displaying metadata about the article in the "list view", the ability to keep the "patrol" button visible if you edit an article before patrolling it, and the automatic removal of deleted pages from the queue. All three are awaiting testing but otherwise complete.

All other elements are either undergoing research, or about to have development started. I appreciate this sounds like we've not got through much work, and truthfully we're a bit disappointed with it as well; we thought we'd be going at a faster pace :(. Unfortunately there seems to be some 24-72 hour bug sweeping the San Francisco office at the moment, and at one time or another we've had several devs out of it. It's kind of messed with workflow.

Stuff to look at

We've got a pair of new mockups to comment on that deal with the filtering mechanism; this is a slightly updated mockup of the list view, and this is what the filtering tab is going to look like. All thoughts, comments and suggestions welcome on the NPT talkpage :). I'd also like to thank the people who came to our last two office hours sessions; the logs will be shortly available here.

I've also just heard that the first functional prototype for enwiki will be deployed mid-April! Really, really stoked to see this happening :). We're finding out if we can stick something up a bit sooner on prototype.wiki or something.

I appreciate there may be questions or suggestions where I've said "I'll find out and get back to you" and then, uh. not ;p. I sincerely apologise for that: things have been a bit hectic at this end over the last few weeks. But if you've got anything I've missed, drop me a line and I'll deal with it! Further questions or issues to the usual address. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 17:07, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Alexander Andryushkin
Hello Osarius. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Alexander Andryushkin, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''"He is regarded as one of the best Russian drummers." is an assertion of importance, sufficient that A7 is not appropriate .''' Thank you.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers 15:02, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

User talk:CHARLESPREZIDUNTS
May I ask, why the over-zealous warning? From what I can tell the user created an article in the Main Space which was a clearly non-notable essay, possibly could be interpreted as an attack page, but was by no means vandalism. Is there something I'm missing? -<font color="#000">Running <font color="#00F">On <font color="#080">Brains (talk) 00:09, 19 April 2012 (UTC)