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Sir George Young, 6th Baronet
You deleted two sentences from the a/m article without any edit summary or explanation, except to, erroneously, mark your edit as a "minor edit" i.e. "...superficial differences... between the current and previous versions [eg] typographical corrections, formatting and presentational changes, and rearrangements of text without modification of its content." I have revisited the sources for the content that you removed - two articles published in The Times - and see no factual inaccuracies. The first phrase you removed reads: "Young became a member of the Conservative Monday Club in 1965, eventually rising to chairman of the club's economic policy group." The source states: "A statement from the Conservative Monday Club... was yesterday repudiated by Mr George Young, Chairman of the club's economic policy group." At best, this requires a further source for his joining in 1965; I'm sure that is also available in The Times.

The second phrase reads: "In 1972 Young orchestrated an unsuccessful attempt to expel Geoffrey Rippon from the Monday Club because of Rippon's "allegedly 'soft' policy" on Ugandan Asian refugees." The source states: "''An unsuccessful attempt was made last night to expel Mr Geoffrey Rippon from the right-wing Conservative Monday Club because of his allegedly "soft" policy on the Ugandan Asians. A spokesman said: "Opinion that he should be expelled was negligible. The move was thrown out on its neck." The man behind the motion was Mr George Young, a banker and a member of the Monday Club since 1965''." One might offer the benefit of doubt and suggest that Young was behind a "motion" to throw out the expulsion attempt - except the article goes on to state "He did not attend the meeting." Oh - and there's the ref for "1965".

Please do not delete content referenced from reliable sources and please do not mark such removals as "minor". If you believe that there is a clear, policy-based reason why this information should not be included, please start a discussion at Talk:Sir George Young, 6th Baronet. Keri (talk) 22:17, 18 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I've continued looking into this - Sir George was my local MP so I take an interest in his article being accurate - in an attempt to determine why you find these 2 specific sentences troublesome. The only thing I can come up with is this: Is it your position that where The Times states "George Young", they are referring to "George Kennedy Young"? Keri (talk) 02:56, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I self-reverted to remove the information. In this instance, I was clearly wrong and I apologise for that. It would have been more helpful if you had commented in your edit summary to explain the removal, but at least we have eventually achieved the desired result. My reading of the source material in The Times was erroneous; by that date, The Times would clearly have referred to him as Sir George Young, not Mr George Young. I also ignored my own inner warning bell at the time that the Monday Club business seemed out of character. Keri (talk) 11:14, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Having had a request by Sir George Young to remove the 2 erroneous sentences and upon reading your reply, Sir George has the following comments: "The current entry has the offending words deleted. I take it from the final sentence that Keri now realises the mistake. If it draws a line under the matter you could reply saying you have been in touch with me; that I asked you to make the changes as I am not technically skilled; that the entries were simply wrong and potentially damaging to someone on the left of the Conservative party and that the deleted entries did indeed refer to George Kennedy Young. I am glad they have been deleted. By all means forward this if that is possible to Keri." OscarNemonLectures (talk) 11:08, 13 August 2015 (UTC)OscarNemonLectures