User talk:Oscarheathjones

Infobox stuffing
The purpose of the "occupation" in infoboxes is not to list everything a person has ever done. It's to identify what they are most famous for. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 13:45, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * If a person has done something then why shouldn't it be in their occupation box in order for people that have done a lot in different fields to get the recognition they deserve- if they do it then it's an occupation Oscarheathjones (talk) 23:37, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * There's a big difference between doing something once or twice, and it being an occupation that someone is known for. The purpose of Wikipedia isn't to give people recognition for things they've done, it's to inform readers about the noteworthy things that someone has done. Cluttering up articles with every job a person's ever had makes it unclear what they're really famous for. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 04:03, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

For example, you have gotten rid of my addition of "writer" etc... On Gene Wilders page even though he has written many films and also you have gotten rid of voice actor and writer etc... Of Seth MacFarlane's page even though he is most renowned as a voice actor and writes many episodes of his animations and his films Ted and Ted 2 so I don't see it as overcluttering I see it as adding correct information. The additions I have made to the articles I have mentioned are all things the people have done often and as for Seth he is most renowned as a voice actor so to get rid of that addition and say "overcluttering" is wrong on your part and a complete contradiction to your own ideas. Oscarheathjones (talk) 12:13, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
 * "Gene Wilder, is an American stage and screen comic actor, screenwriter, and author." I don't see what you're complaining about.
 * "Seth Woodbury MacFarlane...is an American television producer, filmmaker, actor, and singer." Voice actors are a kind of actor, and since he's done some physical acting too, it's simpler to just say "actor". Writing scripts is part of filmmaking (which also covers producing and directing them). Yes, we could expand that to say "actor and voice actor and screenwriter and director and producer"... but we don't have to, because there's a simpler way to say it, and the body of the article goes into more detail.
 * Keeping it simple and focusing on the most important things someone has done is Wikipedia's rule, not mine. From Manual_of_Style/Biographies (which also covers infoboxes): "The notable position(s) or role(s) the person held should usually be stated in the opening paragraph. However, avoid overloading the lead sentence with various sundry roles; instead, emphasize what made the person notable. Incidental and non-notable roles (i.e. activities that are not integral to the person's notability) should usually not be mentioned in the lead paragraph." -Jason A. Quest (talk) 12:53, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm not complaining about the content of the article as such, I'm more complaining about you seeing it as your place to change all my edits and then sending me an actual message about it- people can change my edits If they see fit but one person doesn't need to go through a lot of them deliberately and then think it is their place to message me about it. And as for filmmakers I know what they are thank you- I am one myself! But I see myself as rather a producer, director, writer and musician rather than just "filmmaker" it's not just one thing all the jobs are separate and people produce desperate to what they direct etc... So it's not just all linked all the time. Oscarheathjones (talk) 19:22, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Please understand that having your edits changed or challenged is part of the collaborative process of a wiki. I changed a bunch of yours because I saw them all doing essentially the same unconstructive thing: cluttering up infoboxes with too much detail. Don't take it personally. By messaging you about the issue, I'm trying to save you and other people wasted time. That is my place as an experienced editor.
 * If you're at a party and someone asks what you do for a living, would you really answer "I produce, direct, write, and score movies" or would you say "I'm a filmmaker" or "I make movies"? I'm a cartoonist, a profession that can involve specialties such as writing, penciling, inking, coloring, and lettering. I happen to do them all. But I don't rattle all of that off, because it'd sound like I'm trying too hard to impress people. Instead I just call myself a "cartoonist". On the other hand, if I specialized in lettering (as a few of my friends do), I'd call myself a "letterer". I know people who just write the stories; we call them "comics writers". Wikipedia operates on the same principle: express it as simply and directly as practical in the opening paragraph and infobox, and explain in more detail further into the article. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 03:44, 5 April 2016 (UTC)