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September 2007
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I've noticed that you've been adding your signature to some of your article contributions. This is a simple mistake to make and by now should have been corrected. For future reference, the need to associate edits with users is taken care of by an article's edit history. Therefore, you should use your signature only when contributing to talk pages, the Village Pump, or other such discussion pages. For a better understanding of what distinguishes articles from these type of pages, please see What is an article?. Again, thanks for contributing, and enjoy your Wikipedia experience! Thank you. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 07:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

OK. It is noted.Othmanskn 10:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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Matlan Marjan
The article for Matlan Marjan was deleted because it didn't make any specific claims to notability. After reviewing the second version of the article that was deleted today, it appears that Marjan is notable enough for inclusion, but the key is to state why. If Marjan played internationally for Malaysia, then you need to mention that. If he played professionally, then include for whom he played. You may want to consult WikiProject Football for help. Let me know if you have any other questions... Caknuck 17:02, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The key thing for any article is to clearly state why the person is notable. You can't assume that a reader knows that Chilton was one of England's greatest soccer internationals or that Marjan was playing for the Malaysian national team when he scored those goals. (For instance, England may have been playing a friendly against a club, youth or regional team at the time.)


 * If you start your article off with something like "Matlan Marjan is a Malaysian professional soccer player who played internationally for Malaysia. Marjan is best known for scoring two goals against Bobby Chilton in a match between Malaysia and England...", then you have immediately made a claim to notability that will prevent speedy deletion.


 * I have restored the article per your request. Let me know if you have any other concerns or questions. Cheers, Caknuck 05:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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Sabah
The date August 31st has already been mentioned in the first paragraph of subsection "Second World War and the road to independence". You are only repeating it. I kindly suggest you reread the whole article prior to your edit to understand why your edit is redundant. And one more thing, while Sabah and Singapore gained self-rule on August 31 1963, Sarawak did not. __earth (Talk) 05:30, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Let me double check on this. I'm pretty sure Brunei did. Although the dates are similar, the circumstances and countries differ. One, I mention Brunei. Another was Self-government. Another, what others believe o be the Date of Independence. All these are different instances occurring on the 31st of august, and not necessarily in 1963. Othmanskn (talk)

I have just made major revisions on the religion in Sabah. There are a lot of fake news on this issue in Sabah because it does not tally with our oral history and personal experiences and education. I tried to refer to my old Geography textbook when in primary school but I cannot find that book, even in Google Books but I was sure that in 1967, 47% of Sabahans were Muslims and the political results point out similar outcome. The apparent large number of Christian dominated seats inn 1985 won by PBS was due to gerrymendering of seats which were done by Berjaya, Harris Salleh with the apporval of Mahathir and exploited by PBS, a Christan dominated party. It was shown in their political campaigns and I had seen these analysis. These are facts that we face in Sabah but I shall find the references to publish them in Wikipedia.

As it turned out, it was due to the blatant evangelical actions of Christian missionaries in falsifying data. Stating that 16.6% of Sabahans were Muslims, while only 37% were Muslims in 1960 is just preposterous. After checking with the most like source of the original census data in 1960, there is no doubt that it was grossly faked by James Wong in 1973, referenced by Caldarola.

The comment from the Colonia officers of British North Borneo should be more reliable than James Wong. Accusations that Colonial officers are actively promoting Christianity is most probably false but these accusations are documented in sources which we should record in Wikipedia, as our historical heritage.

Just as accusations of mass conversions to Islam occured. These should also be recorded and I myself heard rumours of these but personally I have never met any of the affected people because Muslims are always wary of new converts. I have found that facts do not support these accusations and this supports my personal experiences living in Sabah. What I found were non-Muslims with Muslim names. When I asked them, they say they never were Muslims, just use Muslim names because of their respect for Muslim leaders. I suspect they were just trying to win favours with Muslim leaders, as some rumours had stated. Othmanskn (talk) 00:20, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

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January 2008
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Sabahan Demographics of 1967

 * Othmanskn, where did you get info about Sabahan demographics for 1967? It would be an invaluable resource if you can cite a source.


 * Furthermore, your allegations against PBS control of delineation is pretty baseless. First of all, delineation is a federal responsibility (via the EC, which by law is under the jurisdiction of the federal government). Secondly, the federal government would not likely have consented to this (imagine UMNO politicians saying "it's alright to have more Christian representatives").


 * Perhaps you're confusing this with the US federation, where state governments do have the authority to delineate state seats.


 * Whodhellknew (talk) 12:58, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You say that "And I never claimed that PBS had delineated the election boundaries by itself."


 * But from the Sabah talk pages, you say: "It was the minority Christian PBS party, who started the illegal demography with the concent of the Federal Government, by allocating more representations to much smaller areas and population to Christian representatives."


 * It doesn't change the fact that the SPR is a federal body. You can claim that Christians were favoured, but the SPR was a federal body. Explain how any party but the federal government of the day could've influenced this delineation.


 * I found the book you've mentioned. Thank you for the source.


 * However, it clearly states that a large proportion of the population were animist. During the gap between whichever election you claim to be gerrymandered, there is a great likelihood that a demographic change occurred due to greater Christianisation of the population.


 * And this wouldn't be state-sanctioned either, since apart from two short years, every chief executive of Sabah was a Muslim.


 * Whodhellknew (talk) 13:16, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm also trying to track down the "Report of the Commission of Enquiry, North Borneo and Sarawak" cited by this book.


 * However, there is as yet, no source for the 1967 census. Your knowledge is not enough. As said, an old geography textbook should not be beyond retrievable. Until then, your stats on the census cannot be used.


 * Whodhellknew (talk) 13:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

2009 flu pandemic, new WHO press conference available
Hi Othmanskn,

The audio and transcript for the weekly WHO virtual press conference (Dec. 3) is now available. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/multimedia/swineflupressbriefings/en/index.html


 * Cool Nerd (talk) 19:12, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Chatting about perpetual motion
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It's pointless to quibble over the literal meaning of "perpetual motion" v. the meaning commonly associated with the term. Perpetual motion article is about the common meaning. Trying to change it into something else is simply disruptive. Furthermore, though you are adamant about your views, you fail to back them up with reliable sources, so it's really a double fail on your part. Rklawton (talk) 16:20, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

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