User talk:Otto ter Haar/2018


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Bad experience with me?
Hello Otto ter Haar, in this recent edit you wrote about me: "I have bad experiences with [The Banner] and user Robotje. They both are edit warriors who abuse Wikipedia as a "battleground"." I don't recall any conflict with you on en-wiki. My reply in the dispute discussion you initiated should preferably be limited to 2000 bytes ("'... less than 2000 characters if possible, ...") so I hope you can help me out on this page so I can use those 2000 bytes more effectively. I am also surprised you characterise me as an abuser of Wikipedia and edit warrior. Can you give me several examples of the last 24 months of my edits on en-wiki on which you can explain/'prove' that I am abusing en-wiki and act as a edit warrior on en-wiki? - Robotje (talk) 22:39, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I admit that regarding too you my wording was too strong. It was a reaction on the wording of The Banner who started the discussion about "loosing the battle". I will correct this. Otto (talk) 05:27, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Looking for consensus?
Hello Otto ter Haar, a change you did was reverted because it was unsourced and the information could not be found on the website of that organization. You undid that revert with this edit and mentioned in the edit summary "... this is edit-warring instead of looking for consensus". You did not give a source and you admitted you were edit-warring. Instead of looking for consensus it should be more about providing a source. Since you might have a COI issue here you should be extra careful about changing that article instead of engage in edit-warring. Just give the public source you used for changing this info in that article. - Robotje (talk) 09:38, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I have just added a source. About your allegation of edit warring I explain my view on the talk page of The Greens. --Otto (talk) 18:27, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

September 2018
Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:List of near misses of attacks with gunfire or missiles on civil aviation, from its old location at User:Otto ter Haar/sandbox. This has been done because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. &mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 15:40, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

== Your submission at Articles for creation: List of near misses of attacks with gunfire or missiles on civil aviation (September 14) ==  Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Dodger67 were:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


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Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:34, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: List of attempted shootdowns of civil aviation (September 25)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Frayae was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:List of attempted shootdowns of civil aviation and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:List of attempted shootdowns of civil aviation, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "db-self" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
 * If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:List_of_attempted_shootdowns_of_civil_aviation Articles for creation help desk] or on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Frayae&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:List_of_attempted_shootdowns_of_civil_aviation reviewer's talk page].
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&mdash; Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 23:06, 25 September 2018 (UTC)