User talk:Ottomachin

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May 2011
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July 2011
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Unified Modeling Language. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively. In particular, the three-revert rule states that: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. ''I don't think this is worth being blocked over. Let the bully finish his tirade and then we can clean things up afterwards. The CN won't hurt the article.'' Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:04, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Please do not attack other editors, as you did on Unified Modeling Language. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:39, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

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Muldoon quote
I am unable to find any reference to this quote, and it seems unlikely that such a damning admission would be overlooked. I have viewed contemporary television coverage of the 1984 snap election coverage and read the relevant chapter of "His way" by Gustafson. I did find a similar quote at http://www.racecafe.co.nz/forum/printthread.php?t=33069&page=2&pp=10
 * 'as outgoing Minister of Finance when the Kirk govt came to power "They can't deliver on the election promises they made because there's no money, I've spent it all hahaha"'

but that is not a reliable source being a forum, and the quote does not appear in Gustafson. If you could give a more accurate date and context, that might assist in tracking this down.- gadfium 00:31, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I see you are a newish editor (going by your edit count, at least). You ask whether eye witness accounts are disallowed these days. Well, one of the core Wikipedia policies is verifiability. Have a read and that will answer your question. If you would like to discuss this further, drop me a talkback note on my talk page - happy to help. And don't be frustrated by this.  Schwede 66  08:35, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

There's a difference between 1972 and 1984, and a difference between your recollection of what was said and the quote as given on the forum. We need a reliable source for the quote, and your eyewitness recollection is not sufficient.- gadfium 19:32, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the references on my talk page. The first reference, is very suitable but doesn't actually name the person who made the statement. However, put together with Brian Easton's column at it is clear this is Muldoon. The other two references are to forums, and thus not suitable.

You will realise that this process has been valuable as the quote does come from 1972 (or thereabouts), and not 1984 as you had thought.

Which is the most suitable article to place the quote in? I think that one of Second National Government of New Zealand, New Zealand general election, 1972, or Robert Muldoon would be appropriate. New Zealand National Party has a broader scope, and the quote is less relevant there, especially in context of the Easton column you linked to, which does point out this this is "a generalisation about every election year".

I will be happy to place the quote once we have agreed on a suitable place for it.- gadfium 20:55, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

I have put the quote in the Robert Muldoon article, and also started an article at Wikiquote. You are most welcome to expand Wikiquote with other snippets.- gadfium 21:30, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

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