User talk:Outlawv

Speedy deletion of Phoebe Hearst Elementary School - Del Cerro, San Diego
A tag has been placed on Phoebe Hearst Elementary School - Del Cerro, San Diego, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia per CSD A7.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is appropriate, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add  on the top of the article and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion. To do this, add  on the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag) and leave a note on the page's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. SamBC(talk) 17:02, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I can appreciate that you've been tasked with documenting the history of your school, but Wikipedia is probably not the right place for the history. Essentially, elementary schools are not sufficiently notable to have Wikipedia articles. (See Notability (schools).) Perhaps you could arrange to have your history mounted on a website belonging to the school. If you have any questions about Wikipedia policy, you can leave a note on my talk page. Accounting4Taste: talk 21:47, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

For your convenience, I've excerpted the relevant criteria for the notability of a school from the page to which I referred you.

Primary criteria A school is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage[1] in secondary sources. Such sources must be reliable, and independent of the school itself. The depth of coverage of the subject by the source must be considered. If the depth of coverage is not substantial, then multiple independent sources should be cited to establish notability. Trivial or incidental coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not sufficient to establish notability.[2] Once notability is established, primary sources may be used to add content. Ultimately, and most importantly, all content must be attributable. Thus, schools with sufficient sourced material have the necessary notability for an article. High schools/secondary schools are regarded as notable unless encyclopaedic material is not available.

[edit] Alternate criteria Alternate criteria can be used to demonstrate notability, should the article not meet the primary criteria. A school will be regarded as notable provided at least two of the following criteria can be reliably sourced:

A school winning a notable sporting or academic event (including, but not limited to, state and national sports championships). A school being a significant record holder at one point (e.g. largest graduating class in history; most consecutive games won by a team). The school has won multiple notable awards or status (e.g. Beacon school, Training school (UK)). Having a notable distinction, that is not held by other schools (e.g., the first high school in New York City; the first desegrated school in Mississippi). Having multiple notable alumni or staff, who would qualify for their own Wikipedia articles under WP:BIO. The school itself, or its staff or students, being involved in a newsworthy incident involving the school. The school receiving the highest available official assessment (e.g. Blue Ribbon school (US) or with a Grade 1 (outstanding) Ofsted overall assessment (UK)). The school is located in a building of architectural importance, for example, a school in the US which is listed in the National Register of Historic Places or a school in England which has been designated as a listed building by English Heritage. The school has a substantial mention in the highest legislative assembly of its country. The school has been the subject of an official visit by the national Head of State/Prime Minister/Governor. The "secondary sources" in the criterion include reliable published works in all forms, such as (for example) newspaper articles, books, television documentaries or reports, or radio documentaries or reports.

Frankly, a primary school that gets an award from a business group is not notable. The notability guidelines quoted above haven't even nearly been met -- significant coverage in secondary sources. Please don't recreate this article unless/until you can provide verifiable evidence of significant coverage in secondary sources (such as articles in newspapers and magazines). Accounting4Taste: talk 22:10, 15 January 2008 (UTC)