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Newbridge station
I moved this back to Newbridge (Caerphilly) railway station. It doesn't matter in this case whether they're separate towns. Newbridge is located in Caerphilly (county borough). If, for example something is Blah, Durham, this does not necessarily mean that they are located in the city of Durham, more the County of Durham. Simply south (talk) 13:06, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps Newbridge (Caerphilly county borough) would be better. Caerphilly is still a separate town, and the unqualified use of the word means that, as it has for over 1000 years, not some transient local government area that has existed a mere 11 years. Owain (talk) 14:03, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Hundreds, and edit summaries
I notice you have been changing a number of articles about historic units of local government to the present tense. This is unusual in that a variety of other editors have constructed similar articles on hundreds, often with a good selection of references, and used the past tense. I suggest you conform to this convention. Additionally, I would encourage you to edit summaries when editing. MRSC • Talk 22:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The past tense is not appropriate when referring to geographical areas. The distinction between an area and any extant local government for that area is quite clear. The metropolitan counties have no role in local government yet are universally referred to in Wikipedia in the present tense. Hundreds may have no role in local government either but clearly as a description for a defined geographical area, they still exist. Owain (talk) 12:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Instead of reverting this please be advised there is a discussion on this here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_geography. There is no consensus for writing about historic units of local government in the present tense. MRSC • Talk 04:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello
I noticed that you seem to be of a similar opinion to me when it comes to the historic/traditional counties of England/Great Britain, and just wanted to make my presence known and say hello. I've been an editor of Wikipedia for a while now, but haven't given many major contributions, due to trying to finish off a PhD. If there's anything I can help with though, or any discussions to get involved with, particularly regarding the counties, I'd love to get involved. Cheers. --El Pollo Diablo (Talk) 11:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Greetings! There does seem to be this strange fact blindness on Wikipedia where despite verifiable evidence to the contrary, certain editors have a policy whereby the historic counties are deemed not to exist! Lancsalot entered into a debate at Talk:Historic counties of England whereby verifiable facts were presented, only to be continually rebutted with "we have a policy...". It seems a strange world where the truth is agreed at by consensus, especially where there isn't a consensus! Where certain editors do see fit to acknowledge the counties existence they have a habit of slipping in past tense references, despite the fact that they cannot actually come up with a point in time at which they became "in the past", so watch out for that! This encyclopædia is supposed to be based on verifiable facts, so don't let them push you around. Good luck! Owain (talk) 20:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Newport station
Before we get into an edit war, please check Talk:Newport railway station (South Wales) to see why the current name. Simply south (talk) 13:17, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The rationale for disambiguation in that way is deeply flawed. I can read pages of drivel debate if I like, but you are all voting on something you don't understand. You can't arrive at the truth through uninformed consensus. In any case I have solved the problem by using the official name. Problem solved! Owain (talk) 13:39, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

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Template:Infobox Scotland county
I note you have worked on this infbox template. The template appears to me to be almost designed to produce nonsensical results. See also Talk:County of Nairn. Laurel Bush (talk) 16:41, 18 February 2008 (UTC).
 * Hmm, I looked at the version before you removed it and it seems perfectly sensible to me. What is nonsensical about it? Owain (talk) 19:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

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List of Wales dialling codes
How dare you make such a drastic edit. I haven't even finished working on the article yet so it would be full of errors. If you have a problem, you discuss it on the talk page or nominate it for deletion so other editiors can comment on it. Welshleprechaun (talk) 14:41, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The page is a duplicate of the List of United Kingdom dialling codes and would be merged back into the main page anyway. I am saving you the hassle of having to undo thousands of edits. Owain (talk) 14:58, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

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Torfaen
The Etymology section of this article states that "The name Torfaen is corrupted Welsh for rock breaker and refers to the river that flows through the county borough from its source in Blaenavon. The river in question is now known as the Afon Llwyd".


 * Why it is saying "The river in question is now known as Afon Llwyd"? Why the use of "now"? Does this mean that the river was previously known by some other names? But the article Afon Llwyd does not suggest anything like that.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 11:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The original change happened here. The text used to say The name 'Torfaen' is corrupted Welsh for 'rock breaker' and was the original name of the Afon Llwyd, the principle river that flows through the area., stating that the river was originally called "Torfaen". I agree that the current wording doesn't explain this very well. I shall amend it. Owain (talk) 11:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

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Annapolis
fear maigh fein!good man yerself! while i might otherwise condemn you for a sassenach oppressor, that little twerp who keeps deleting the u.k. here pisses me off. you do know it's a nine year old?Toyokuni3 (talk) 23:03, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I've left him a warning on his talk page about it. Sassenach? I'm from Monmouthshire. No-one likes us, but we don't care... ;) Owain (talk) 06:56, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

South or south Wales?
Hi Owain,

Have you noticed that in the past few weeks Wesinger has been busy deleting 'South' from every reference to 'South Wales' he can find in lead sections on Welsh pages? He uses as a reason for changing literally hundreds of pages - (changed lead as per Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements) I've looked at the relevent page and can't find any such justification, and I can't find any discussion about it anywhere. Isn't there supposed to be a consensus on such things before such drastic action is taken? I'd appreciate your comments. ♦ Jongleur100 ♦ talk 08:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There is supposed to be a consensus, but as you know unilateral action is taken all the time, especially in regard to UK geography. Geography is supposed to be exactly that - a description of where a place is, but editors here frequently mix it up with geopolitics and administrative boundaries. I'm all for use of geographical counties, not political or administrative constructs as few people have any idea where they are and they change frequently. In the absence of this a comparison can be drawn with the categorisation system: The page should be categorised at the lowest-possible level with higher levels having greater scope. In this instance the use of "South Wales" makes more sense as it is a lower level. The South Wales page then explains it is part of Wales with the Wales page indicating it is part of Great Britain, and so on. If we don't follow the lowest-level rule then we may as well put Earth or something obtuse like that. Owain (talk) 11:11, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that, most of which I agree with. The fact that he has had to change hundreds of pages (I gave up counting when I reached two hundred!) surely indicates that there are hundreds of other editors who would disagree with him. Wikipedia will never succeed as a bona fide encyclopedia if one individual can ride roughshod over the will of others. What can be done about it?  ♦ Jongleur100 ♦  talk 11:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess one can use a bot to follow South Wales -> Wales changes and revert them, either those made by this particular user, or generally. AutoWikiBrowser may be a solution too but I've never used it as it is a horrible Windows.NET creation. Owain (talk) 12:09, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Mmm, I don't use Windoze at all, and I wouldn't know how to create a bot.  ♦ Jongleur100 ♦  talk 12:16, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't use Windows either, hence my distaste for .NET! Take a look at Bot requests and the associated links at the top. Good luck! Owain (talk) 12:34, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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Williams Baronets
Great edit. Have you tried AWB? Kittybrewster  &#9742;  10:03, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Not a fan of Windows or .NET, but I DL'd it the other day and then realised I'm not on the "chosen list". D'oh! Owain (talk) 10:29, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

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Newport station
STOP YOUR VANDALISM NOW, or you WILL be blocked. Welshleprechaun (talk) 16:18, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Look pal, reverting unilateral page moves and removing crap information that you have inserted is not vandalism, it is defence of WP polices. Please read them. Owain (talk) 16:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You cannot just move them based on your opinion, or what you think the name should be, or without discussing it. Welshleprechaun (talk) 16:23, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Which is exactly what Shazz0r did! I am attempting to move the article back to Newport railway station as per the consensus on the talk page! Owain (talk) 16:25, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No you didn't, you have moved it to three different names - High Street, station1 and Great Western Line. Welshleprechaun (talk) 16:34, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, in an attempt to move it away from the incorrect name whilst the Newport railway station was speedily deleted freeing it up to me moved to. Please assist! Owain (talk) 16:46, 6 December 2008 (UTC)