User talk:Oxideart

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June 2019
Hello, I'm MJL. I noticed that you recently removed content from Ancient astronauts without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 03:33, 14 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Adding a note about this: the popular culture and related proponents must discard a lot of evidence contradicting their claims, by cherry-picking what they like and interpreting it how they like to match their dogmatic conclusions. This is commonly called pseudoscience and Wikipedia has a policy about its accurate representation (WP:PSCI).  However, a more serious article on the subject is panspermia, the hypothesis that the earliest life on earth may have originated from space rather than formed on earth (i.e. abiogenesis occurring elsewhere; but it would still be unicellular or replicating molecules, since we know life then evolved on earth).  — Paleo  Neonate  – 12:17, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi MJL, Why can't ancient astronauts be considered as a hypothesis? hypothesis: a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation. a proposition made as a basis for reasoning, without any assumption of its truth. (philosophical) (If you google, "define: hypothesis", I think you should get the result) pseudoscience - a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method. mainstream science leans towards panspermia and the evidence of panspermia poses questions, which are being investigated. Even then it is considered as a hypothesis. Why not ancient astronaut theory? - oxideart —Preceding undated comment added 07:17, 4 July 2019 (UTC) Also, to sign your name properly please type. I hope this answers your question! { &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 08:13, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hey oxideart! I do not want you to feel discouraged while editing Wikipedia, but I must say that we must rely on verifiable content from reliable sources in order to change things in articles. This is in addition to WP:PSCI which mentioned to you last month. If you can provide a reliable source (by Wikipedia's standards mind you) that uses the term hypothesis while describing the concept of ancient astronauts, I will be happy to help you gain WP:Consensus to change the article.

Acknowledged. --Oxideart (talk) 11:11, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Welcome back. I agree with MJL that the most important is what reliable sources say.  I would not personally be surprised if someone called it a hypothesis.  With the immense size of the universe it's statistically considered likely for life to also exist elsewhere.  The Fermi paradox explains how unlikely it would be for two civilizations to ever meet.  We may also eventually discover simple life forms around the earth, but its origin may as well be Earth (unless abiogenesis happened on another terrestrial planet near us, that through panspermia arrived here).  The panspermia hypothesis is considered a possibility but there is no credible evidence for it at current time.  Something to consider is that what "ancient astronaut theorists" consider evidence of ancient alien visitation is usually understood by mainstream science to be something else.  — Paleo  Neonate  – 15:49, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Adding: you don't need our permission to edit an article. If it's reverted, then WP:CONSENSUS should be formed at the article's talk page to reinstate the change (WP:BRD is a good guide).  — Paleo  Neonate  – 15:56, 4 July 2019 (UTC)