User talk:P.B. Pilhet/Archive-Oct2006

Brandon Pilzner
Hi. I've replaced your speedy tag in the article Brandon Pilzner with a prod tag, as the author has since made claims to notability. (They're not very good claims, but there they are.) ... disco spinster talk  19:18, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the rule update, Nephron (and the greeting)! -- P.B. Pilhet 21:43, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Regarding your AfD's
Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia by tagging articles per AfD and adding them to the log. I just wanted to let you know that there's a specific template that you're supposed to use when doing this.

For example, you did this for Articles for deletion/Church of the tragical Christ:

''I ran a Google search and no results came up. If this church exists, it looks like it is too small to merit an entry. -- P.B. Pilhet 19:36, 28 August 2006 (UTC), Newpage Patrol''

Instead you can do this to the page: ~

Follow this template because it conforms with the Afd pages for all other articles. For more, see the edits I made here. You'll see that I used the template, added the page name (which would be Church of the tragical Christ), and added the text that you had written above.

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me.

Happy editing!

--  Nishkid64  Talk  19:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip, Nishkid64!
I'll use the tag from now on. I noticed that you're 16 years old. So am I! -- P.B. Pilhet 19:55, 28 August 2006 (UTC), Newpage Patrol

A suggestion
Those articles you nominated are all from the same person, he's creating some more articles that are basically the same thing. You might want to add them as well. TJ Spyke 03:26, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

- Yes, I know. However, as I write this he's probably creating even more. I'll wait until he's done with all his creating before I tag the rest, if somebody else doesn't tag them first. -- P.B. Pilhet 03:30, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Miscarried Baby Girl McCall
I noticed that you tagged the article Miscarried Baby Girl McCall as "patent nonsense". I did a quick search on that name, and found that Miscarried Baby Girl McCall is the name of a soap opera character. There is a link to it from Nikolas Cassadine. I have no interest in soap operas, but I just wanted to mention that sometimes an article that seems to be nonsense really isn't. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 19:53, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

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Whoops, I thought I did run a search on it. I must not have looked close enough. -- P.B. Pilhet 03:00, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi from Jesussaves!


has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

Hi!!!! Thanks for the category. I'll put it on my page. Actually, I am a non-denominational protestant also! It's good to see another user who is one. Oh, and thanks for your compliment on 40 Days with God: A Devotional Journey! See you in cyberspace! :) Jesussaves 01:28, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks and you're welcome! -- P.B. Pilhet 01:30, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Haha. I'm Samuel, but everyone just calls me Sam. Why don't we continue our discussion by E-mail? My E-mail address is Jesussaves7193yahoo.com -- Jesussaves 20:16, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes Minister episode articles
Thanks for your comment regarding "The Death List". I've now added spoiler warnings to all the YM episode articles I've written so far. Chris 42 19:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

phelanism
Phelanism is a serious religion that is growing in popularity in swinford. can you restore it or at least if i create it again not let others know not to delete it. thanks Conor quinn 20:19, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Reply: If you seriously think the article has merit enough to have a spot on Wiki, I recommend that you read this page for instructions on how to request undeletion. You can also talk to the administrator who deleted your article (Joyous!). As I am not an administator (though would like to be one someday), I cannot personally restore your article. I hope your article is determined to be acceptable Wiki content, but in my personal opinion, it's not quite there (sorry!). Either way, I hope you continue to contribute to Wikipedia. -- P.B. Pilhet 22:39, 10 September 2006 (UTC), Newpage Patrol

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A good street education
I am curiouis why are you saying that my article is nonsense, its not nonsense to many black people in America ok! Are you white or racist or don't understand that many people can't afford college and they have to get an education on the streets! Joe Joe Phelps 16:31, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Believe me, I'm not a racist!!! Just check my user page. But unfortunately, your article does not merit an entry on Wikipedia. Sorry! Take a look at the Guidelines for more info on writing articles. Thanks! -- P.B. Pilhet 16:35, 11 September 2006 (UTC), Newpage Patrol

Changed your comments at User talk:Jdpisula
Hope you dont mind; I subst'd your welcome template and replaced your warning with a subst'd copy of userfy warning.  Big Nate 37 (T) 17:32, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Nope, I don't mind. -- P.B. Pilhet 17:38, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I should have used nn-userfy instead. The things you find when you browse WP:UTTM.  Big Nate 37 (T) 17:43, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the greeting
It took three months for somebody to welcome me. I only had to delete my user page first apparently. --Sparkhurst 17:56, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Amador Family page deletion
Hello - Why did you delete this page within seconds of my creating it? I thought the Speedy Deletion guidelines state that a reasonable amount of time should be given to the creator of the page to add content?

The Amador family has been heavily involved in Northern New Mexico, including politics - which is why Governor Bill Richardson just dedicated and renamed a government building there this past Tuesday to Albert Amador Jr., a previous state senator, state legislator, and member of the board of education.

--jamador4 Sept 14 20:17

Hello: You recently wrongfully deleted an article I had written and posted in the encyclopedic portion of wiki. You cite your reason as that I am not allowed to post articles about myself. You are incorrect. I did not post an article about myself, I merely choses the same username as a famous internet celebrity, Gabrielangel. In the future I would appreciate it if you would confirm your facts before deleting others' efforts on whim. How long have you been an editor here for? If you continue to wrongfully delete threads I will take this dispute further up the mediation tree. No hard feelings man, just get your facts straight before you run around deleting other people's work. User:Gabrielangel

Hi, Gabrielangel! Sorry, I didn't know that wasn't a personal article. As for deleting it, that wasn't me. I just proposed for the article to be deleted (not just because I thought it was a personal article, but because the subject was non-notable). Adam Bishop was the administrator who followed me up, inspected the article, and deleted it. If you would like to request undeletion, see this page for more information. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask! -- P.B. Pilhet 02:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC), Newpage Patrol

P.S. -- When writing a message on someone's talk page, write below the last entry, not the very top of the page.

Image copyright problem with Image:CSPcar.jpg
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RE: Protestant userbox
Thanks for letting me know about the userbox, I've changed it already. Cheers --Ter e nce Ong (T 14:05, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Fake "new message" banner
There are number of editors who have banners like that on their userpages. I agree with you: it's immature and irritating, but there is no policy against it. Nothing much we can do. Sorry. Joyous! | Talk 22:51, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Your signature
To get links to your talk page, go to your preferences page via the link at the top of the page. In the signature box, enter

P.B. Pilhet | Talk

Then check the box that says "raw signature." That should do the trick. Joyous! | Talk 20:17, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Fundamentalism
Hi there! You're right about the origins of Christian fundamentalism; that userbox of mine is more of a cri-de-cœur than anything. Perhaps I should have said that '[they] should read the words and actions of Jesus more often:' What I was trying to argue was that many of the unsympathetic and hardline individuals who claim an affinity with Jesus are far removed from his ideologies, and for his sympathy with humankind. Some individuals are spreading hate, killing and pushing people to the margins of society, in the name of Jesus, saying that He hates homosexuals, or those with gender dysphoria, or whatever offends their own sensibilities. What they use to substantiate this odium is rather vague passages from the Old Testament, or on the letters of St. Paul, who, I believe, had a drastically different ideal of Christianity to Christ himself. If they based their lives on the tenant, 'What would Jesus do,' they would see that Jesus offered his love to everyone, to the point that he spent much of his life with the 'undesirables' of his day. Later days! - iïnag - 18:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Response
Hello, again!

I enjoyed your (very cogent) arguments; as for your worry that you may offend individuals reading this, I doubt that anyone much is reading my talk page, and even so, I can't see what is wrong with a civilised ideological exchange.

By the way, in case I'm mistaken, I was not calling those don't believe in same-sex sexual relations 'fundamentalists' at all, but rather those who attack these individuals physically and psychologically. Indeed, though I support gay people to do what they please, I myself have similar ideals to you on the matter. I think that it is unhealthy that one can only be affectionate towards and have love for half of the world (which often leads to either complete degeneracy, or emotional repression,) but at the same time, I feel that it would be better if, in both 'same-sex' and 'heterosexual' relationships, the purpose of the relationship was not to fulfil sexual urges, but instead to know and love each other on a higher level.

I agree with you that G-d and Jesus are, and should not be, permissive of everything that happens upon this earth. It would be rank folly if they were, and murderers, child-abusers and the like could continue in their deeds with relative spiritual impunity. Condemnation and protection often go hand in hand. The thing that irks me (other than my belief that gender is more of a mental thing than anything) is how people are so steadfast to that passage in Leviticus, and can completely reject most of the other rules laid down there and within the O.T. The word used to describe homosexuality- tō`bā, described in the past as an 'abomination' and now as 'reprehensible'- was also used to describe using crooked weights and measurements; children arguing with their parents; masturbation; eating lobster, pig, and other such unclean animals; or animals killed in an unsavoury way; and letting those who have not been circumsised into holy places. I see all of them (except, perhaps, the last) as being rather serious contradictions of biblical law; now, most of these are not seen as 'sins' at all. Can it be right that we are so staunchly in favour of some passages of the bible, and completely dismissive of others? For something proclaimed as the divine works, can it be right to have such a pick-and-mix attitude towards it?

I equally hope that I made some sense (I have a poisonous headache, but hopefully I did not come off so disorientated!) Prosperity! iinag cuộc thảo luận  - 10:12, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Userboxes
Hi P.B Philet,I was wondering where you got your 'This user believes in Pro-Life' userbox.I haven't seen it anywhere and want to put it on my userpage.What is the userbox code for it? Serenaacw 11:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi
Hi P.B Philet,and thanks for your help with the userbox.As for my church denomination,I am Baptist.Serenaacw 22:57, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Esperanza!
Welcome, P.B. Pilhet, to Esperanza! As you might know, all the Esperanzians share one important goal: the success of this encyclopedia. Within that, we then attempt to strengthen the community bonds, and be the "approachable" side of the project. All of our ideals are held in the Charter, the governing document of the association.

Now that you are a member you should read the guide to what to do now or you may be interested in some of our programs. A quite important program is Stressbusters, which seeks to support editors who have encountered any stress from their Wikipedia events, and are seeking to leave the project. So far, Esperanza can be credited with the support and retention of several users. We will send you newsletters to keep you up to date. Also, we have a calendar of special events, member birthdays, and other holidays that you can add to and follow.

In addition to these projects, several more missions of Esperanza are in development, and are currently being created at Esperanza/Proposals.

If you have any other questions, concerns, comments, or general ideas, Esperanzian or otherwise, know that you can always contact Natalya by email or talk page. Consider introducing yourself at the Esperanza talk page! Alternatively, you could communicate with fellow users via our IRC channel, #wikipedia-esperanza (which is also good for a fun chat or two :). If you're new to IRC, you may find help at an IRC tutorial. I thank you for joining Esperanza, and look forward to working with you in making Wikipedia a better place to work!

Sasuk e  -kun  27  21:23, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I'd also like to extend my welcome to you. I hope you enjoy the community, and don't hesitate to ask me or any other Esperanzian with any questions you may have. -- Ci e lomobile minor7♭5 02:44, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

"Mike Bailey" wiki page
I dont think this page should be speedily deleted. The information is relevant to its niche. The current "speedy deletion" label suggests an informed judgement of the content and tarnishes its ongoing relevance to the wiki community. The page name "Mike bailey" should be edited/renamed to read "Mike Bailey" as it is a proper noun. The inappropriate content has been eliminated and I now understand the distinction between "user pages" and the wiki page. Thank you for your consideration, (MBailey 21:08, 9 October 2006 (UTC)=Mbailey)

Mike Bailey wiki page
I have added more info to the page in hopes that you recognize its ongoing value. More links and info of encyclopdic value will be up soon. Thanks for your timely response! (MBailey 21:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)=MBailey)

Requests for adminship/P.B. Pilhet
Hello! I would urge you to withdraw from the RfA process as it is highly unlikely that you are going to be granted access to admin tools at this point. The main reason that voters are pointing towards is lack of experience, which can only come with time and contributions. I would begin to participate in XfD discussions; join a Wikiproject such as Esperanza, which I see from above that you already have; watch for vandals and revert their efforts whilst alerting admins at WP:ANI and also edit articles - finding sources and references and perhaps joining in Featured Article and Good Article improvement drives. All of these will be useful work and will serve to raise your profile such that another RfA in 3-4 months' time will be a much stronger application. Regards, (aeropagitica) 21:06, 10 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I know I'm probably not going to pass, but I'll leave it up anyway. Withdrawling, to me, seems like quitting, and as there's no real reason to withdrawl, I'll just leave it up.  But thanks anyway for taking the time to give me your advice, I really appreciate it! --  P.B. Pilh  e  t  /  Talk  22:32, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem! RfA can be a harsh process, with all of our faults and foibles dragged out in to the open for all to kick around. Some people can take it badly but you seem to be quite relaxed about the process. Best wishes and happy editing! (aeropagitica) 22:37, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Your Rfa
It was important for me to support you in your Rfa- even though I knew this was somewhat of an experiment on your part and I know you could handle it in stride. Good to see the process hasn't detered you and I look forward to your nomination in a few months(I just might even nominate you. God Bless. Jcam 23:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

vamp star
This is a legit article about a band that had quite a name for itself. Former members have gone on to become stars in the adult world. You should reconsider the deletion. For more info on Jade Star please look at http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2048139/ p.S. Thank you for the tip Rob gray 03:22, 13 October 2006 (UTC) I went to the deletion review, but being my first time on the site I am not so sure I did it correctly. Rob gray 03:23, 13 October 2006 (UTC) Thanks again buddy for the help. Rob gray 03:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Gary Kirk's RfA


Roscoe G. Dickinson
HI PBP, Thank you for your note. You mention that I deleted the "Notability Tag" without discussion. Actually I kinda did add discussion into the article itself pointing out his notability...thus I saved my breath on the talk page. By the way, FYI, in the wiki guidelines it mentions that a scientist that is a PhD advisor of a notable scientist is also counted as notable. In this case Roscoe is the advisor of a Nobel prize winner. So there should be no problem. Let me know your thoughts and if u agree. Also I disagree with merging his biography with that of Linus Pauling. Do you put that merge tag there? There are no merged biographies on wikipedia! I'm taking off the merge tag as it is not the done thing for biographies. If lack of content is your objection, then please wait for the article to be expanded. Articles take time....gotta begin somewhere :-) God bless, SureFire 07:22, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi PBP, the wiki page on "academic notability" is at and item 6 states: "The person is known for being the advisor of an especially notable student."  And this is truly the case for old Roscoe. Spread the wikilove. God bless, SureFire 21:00, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

why does it have to be deleated?
Todd-n-Tyler is a radio show based out of Omaha, NE. Why does have to be deleated? —Preceding unsigned comment added by C-town dude (talk • contribs)


 * Reply Hello, C-town dude! Thanks for your polite question.  As far as I can understand, the Wikipedia editors who discussed Todd-n-Tyler's deletion proposal all felt that the subject was not notable enough to have an article on this encyclopedia.  You can take a look at the discussion by clicking here; just remember that you can't edit that page.  You can also see Wikipedia's guidelines for notability, to kind of get an idea of what merits an article here and what doesn't.  Thanks again for your question!  If  you have any more, just ask! --  P.B. Pilh  e  t  /  Talk  16:23, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

B-day
Thanks for the b-day wish and kind works. =) Nish kid  64  19:48, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Butterley Tunnel
You nominated this page for deletion after I had written just one line. I have added more information and citations have been added by myself and Uncle G. Please reconsider your opinion.Martin Cordon 16:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Dear P.B.Pilhet

I have expanded the article considerably, taken pictures and uploaded them. Thank you for changing your vote to merge, would you now re-visit and consider changing your vote to keep.

Yours Faithfully Martin CordonMartin Cordon 20:52, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Dear P.B.Pilhet

Thank you for your reply and I understand that your opinion isn't going to change but it is going to be difficult for me ever to write an article if the Butterley Tunnel fails to get an article on the basis of notability.

There are seven British canal tunnels with their own page in Wikipedia. Only two of these tunnels are longer. According to Wikipedia itself, if this canal were repaired, and that is the plan, it would be the ninth longest navigable canal tunnel in the world. There are no British Canal tunnels which also have an underground wharf to load coal directly from an adjacent coalmine into barges within the tunnel. This tunnel is unique in this respect in Britain (citation already exists). It is possible that this makes it unique in the world. What does a structure need to be considered notable?

Yours Faithfuly Martin Cordon Martin Cordon 22:00, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Dear P.B.Pilhet

We will soon know eachover very well I think. I do not intend to name the tunnels concerned. I of course consider them all to be notable and deserving of their own pages. I do not want to play any part in their demise. Unlike you, I believe that people do look for information on tunnels in Wikipedia and that there are people whose specific interest is tunnels not the canals, roads or railways which pass through them. After all this is what I was attempting to find when I noticed that Butterley tunnel had been overlooked. I wouldn't expect you to consign the Channel Tunnel to a sub section of the railway which passes through it. It stands alone as the engineering marvel it is. The Butterley tunnel was the Channel Tunnel of its day and of course I for one consider it notable. I believe that Wikipedia is what the internet is for. A place where you can find information on just about anything. It seems to me that oficianados of rock music will not consider tunnels notable and engineers (which I am) will not consider rock bands notable. Perhaps Wikipedia needs administrative sections which contain engineering focus groups, rock music focus groups etc. so that engineers don't end up deciding on the notability of Mozart.

Yours Faithfully Martin cordon Martin Cordon 22:36, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Dear P.B.Pilhet

I am not sure what the section below from Valento has to do with the Butterley Tunnel. Do you?

Thank you for congratulating me on the Keeping of the Butterley Tunnel page. I was a little peeved when you nominated it for deletion whilst I was actually writing the first sentences but this article would definitely not have progressed so quickly if you had not thrown down the gauntlet. My own editing knowledge has also increased significantly as a result of your challenge. Given the result, there is no down side for me. The article is kept and I am a better editor as a result. Thank you!

Yours Faithfully Martin Cordon Martin Cordon 18:14, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello-- This is Valento, and somebody had messed with my page. I am not a bisexual. Im a very straight male. I wish to close my wiki account, so here is my email: alpha.western@hotmail.com Valento


 * Reply Oh, so it's just vandalism. Never mind then :-)


 * As for your e-mail, sorry, but I don't like to send messages to people I don't really know. (Note: If I become an administrator someday, that policy of mine will probably change, but not now.)


 * Thanks for your reply! Sorry you're leaving.  God bless,  P.B. Pilh  e  t  /  Talk  01:48, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
My administratorship candidacy succeeded with a final tally of 81/0/1. I appreciate your support. Results are at Recently_created_admins. Warmly,  Durova  21:12, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: hey!
Thanks for the fast response, and for the user box fix. Most of the time a citation is requested it gets ignored. :) --Lethargy 17:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome
Still coming to terms with Wikepedia but getting there slowly :) I'd like to know why images I upload can take up to 24 hrs to display? In reference to the post above can't easily figure out how to do a citation (but maybe I'm just thick :)

Headgit 17:36, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Images
I have uploaded images (logos) to the swim ~ and pinkflag pages neither of which seem to show up (although you see the file name displayed). I just copied the wiki code from the 4AD & Harvest Records, uploaded in the usual way and then changed the file name on the relevant page. I put images on other pages which seemed to take a while to show up (the one on the Max Franken page took a while but it showed up after a few hours. Don't get it.

Headgit 08:20, 21 October 2006 (UTC)