User talk:P.Ganakan

April 2011
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content, as you did to the article Kaniyar Panicker, please cite a reliable source for the content of your edit. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. See Citing sources for how to cite sources, and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Sitush (talk) 13:04, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Further to the above comments, on the same article, please that a Wikipedia article itself is not a reliable source for reference purposes. Therefore a Wikipedia page cannot be used as a source, as you did in.
 * To link to Niranam poets all you needed to type in is this Niranam poets - 220.101 User talk:220.101.28.25\ 23:44, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit Summaries
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Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field. If you are adding a section, please do not just keep the previous section's header in the Edit summary field – please fill in your new section's name instead. Thank you. - 220.101 User talk:220.101.28.25\ 23:44, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content without verifying it by citing reliable sources, as you did to Kaniyar Panicker. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Sitush (talk) 13:00, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Kaniyar Panicker. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively. In particular, the three-revert rule states that: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Sitush (talk) 13:48, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Kaniyar Panicker
Hi, I do not understand why you are continuing to revert content that has been cleaned up by several different editors at Kaniyar Panicker. Some of what you are reverting may be useful and relevant information but the vast majority of it is original research, uses circular references or no references at all. Some of the more valid references - particularly, Edgar Thurston - are also commonly thought to be unreliable and/or out of date.

I do understand that English is perhaps not your first language but if you would allow others to tidy up your contributions then things are likely to run much more smoothly. You may also learn from their actions how to format citations etc, although I notice that someone has already shown you this above and you have ignored them. I note also that you have ignored their advice about using edit summaries. I am afraid that if you continue in this way then your contributions may be deemed disruptive - and the consequence of that is likely to be that you would be blocked from editing here. This would be a great shame. Please note that Wikipedia works on a collaborative system. You do not own articles and have to work with others as part of a team.

Feel free to ask any questions. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 14:04, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed maintenance templates from Kaniyar Panicker. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Sitush (talk) 14:11, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Kaniyar Panicker, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Sitush (talk) 16:00, 26 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry but this has gone on long enough now. Any more disruption and I will request that you are blocked from editing. The maintenance templates are valid, and in particular the one requesting clean up. Please take my word for this, even if the standard of English etc looks ok to you - it is not. These templates do not constitute an attack on yourself or a criticism of what you have added to the article. There is no need to take them personally. - Sitush (talk) 16:03, 26 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I strongly suggest you proceed very carefully at Kaniyar Panicker. Do not remove the maintenance templates from the top of the article again. I've looked through the article, and the three templates that are at the top of the article still apply. I suggest you discuss your edits at Talk:Kaniyar Panicker and work toward building consensus with other editors, since there appears to be some strong opposition to your edits. If you cannot work collaboratively with other editors—if you continue to edit war and refuse to explain your edits either via the talk page or edit summaries—your conduct will lead to your account being blocked. —C.Fred (talk) 16:27, 26 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Shri P.Ganakan, In the wiki article page Kaniyar it is written that "Although the modern dances (which occur in the temples of Alappuzha, Kollam, Pathanamthitta and Kottayam) are performed by Nairs (a caste which had a social rank higher than the Kaniyars),[2] it is the Kaniyars who decorate the elaborate costumes." Who wrote this??? Please tell me. I want to talk to that person. Kalari Kurup/Kalari Panicker were teachers of Jyothisha Kalari(Institution of Astrology). They have no relation with Payattu Kalari(Institution of Martial Arts), Chikithsa Kalari(Institution of Marma Chikithsa) and Ezhuthu Kalari(Institution of Language). Another "intelligent person" has written Shri.Thunchath Ezhuthachan was from Kaniyar community. Seems like some very intelligent persons of your community are trying to establish that Kaniyars were supervisors and teachers of all the Kalaris(institutions). As if, no other caste had their own institutions. Ashwati Nair (talk) 17:30, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

The Kshatriya community of Kerala had the Granthas of Martial arts. Men of my community did Kshatriya duties and women of my community did housekeeping. They were not dancers. Please tell me who wrote this sentence that Nairs were dancers. I'm waiting for your reply. Ashwati Nair (talk) 17:27, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Will you please start providing edit summaries. You have done so at least twice, a few days ago, & so it is clear that you are aware of the facility. It really can be quite awkward when you fail to provide this information. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 12:14, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Copyrights and plagiarism
Sorry, as I understand that you must think I am being a pest, but please will you not copy/paste content from other websites into Wikipedia articles. This always breaches either the copyright or plagiarism policies of the project, depending on whether or not the source website is copyrighted. The same situation applies generally to books, magazines etc, although quotation is permitted. You may wish to read about the copyright policies. I have removed the obvious violations from Kaniyar Panicker, but if there are others then please will you resolve them either by rewriting in your own words or removing the content. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 13:28, 27 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I have reverted the content referred to above again. Aside from the issues I have already mentioned, this relies on a blog & I do not consider it to be a reliable source. Since a bot has also reverted this in between my two efforts, I think that you are now in excess of three reverts in the last 24 hours. Please desist. - Sitush (talk) 14:49, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Notice
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding your repeated copyright violations. The thread is User:P.Ganakan.The discussion is about the topic Kaniyar Panicker. Thank you. – Adrignola talk 15:37, 27 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Also, please log in to edit. It is abusive if you attempt to edit without logging in to avoid warnings and possible blocks, as you appear to be doing with 117.254.135.60 . —C.Fred (talk) 15:43, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Blocked
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 72 hours for copyright violations. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. —C.Fred (talk) 15:50, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

May 2011
Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not replace pages with blank content, as you did with this edit to Aasaan, as this is confusing to readers. The page's content has been restored for now. If there is a problem with the page, it should be edited or reverted to a previous version if possible; if you think the page should be removed entirely, see further information. Thank you. Bentogoa (talk) 19:46, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Aasaans


Hello, I notice that you recently created a new page, Aasaans. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page - Aasaan. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Aasaan - you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

If you think that the article you created should remain separate, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion," which appears inside of the speedy deletion tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. Eeekster (talk) 19:58, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Recent edits
Hi, I see that you have run into Eeekster and regret that I have had to further his modifications to your recent contributions. He was right, but only touched the tip of the iceberg.

Creating numerous articles which all really relate to one subject, eg: Ganakan and Kanisu are really Kaniyar and/or Kaniyar Panicker, serves no useful purpose. These have been converted into redirects. There is still a curiosity about the distinction between Kaniyar and Kaniyar Panicker themselves, which I am thinking about and is mentioned on the latter's talk page.

Some of your other recent contributions, all of which were really related to the same subject, were either uncited or used as a source the book about one village in one area of southern India (this is the one about Pampa). It does not matter how good the integrity of that book may be, the fact remains that you cannot extrapolate it to be representative of the entire subject. It merely "proves" a very limited point.

I feel that, unfortunately, you may become frustrated by these changes to your work. Please do not. It is unfortunate but you can learn from the situation and, as always, you are free to query with me or anyone else. - Sitush (talk) 23:28, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Ganakans


Hello, I notice that you recently created a new page, Ganakans. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page - [[Ganaka, the singular word for this and which redirects to Kaniyar]]. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at [[Ganaka, the singular word for this and which redirects to Kaniyar]] - you might like to discuss new information at Talk:[[Ganaka, the singular word for this and which redirects to Kaniyar|the article's talk page]].

If you think that the article you created should remain separate, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion," which appears inside of the speedy deletion tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. Sitush (talk) 13:44, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Kaniyar
Your edit summary says "please see discussion". What discussion? There does not appear to be one. - Sitush (talk) 06:17, 7 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I have asked a question at Talk:Kaniyar about your latest edit - Sitush (talk) 18:42, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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