User talk:P.K.Niyogi/Archive 1

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Thanks for the welcome! I am enjoying what I am doing and I look forward to making useful contribution in developing some of Wikipedia articles. P.K.Niyogi 20:37, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Bangla wikipedia
Mr. Niyogi, I'm assuming you are Bengali. So, would you like to contribute to the Bengali language wikipedia too? You can check it out here: http://bn.wikipedia.org. Right now, 20+ people are actively editing there ... we have only a few from west bengal. So, please join us there. You can see a tutorial here. For Phonetic Bangla typing (নিয়োগী would be N-i-y-O-g-I), you can use the Avro keyboard, downloadable from here. Also, how to enable Bangla rendering can be found here. Thanks. --Ragib 18:30, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Reply to Ragib
I am new to Wikipedia. I do not know how much time I will continue to get for this. I was born and brought up in Bihar and therefore I am not that well up in Bengali. Then I will have to learn how to type in Bengali! I don't think I will join your project now but keep it up. Once it gets noticed there should no dearth of writers in Bengali. Best wishes. 59.93.193.134 05:51, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, my name got disconnected. P.K.Niyogi 05:53, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Please use edit summaries and Show preview button more often. btw, it is generally considered better form to reply on the talkpage of the addresser. Welcome!! --Gurubrahma 05:42, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Mr. Niyogi
I agree with you. A name must be spelled as the person did. The problem is, I try to get the real spelling and when failed, do as mind says. Actually, wrong spelling does not matter where persons like you are to correct thouse. Would you please keep an eye on the articles started by me? When there is something wrong, you can enrich and even rename them. Thanks for the suggestions. Hope I will get a senior and experienced colleague like you.--Maksud3 09:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I keep forgetting to reply to you, sorry about that. I agree with you that proper names should be written in the spelling used by the person. The thing with non-English names is that they can be written in more than one way, and often many of the older spellings were assigned by the British (e.g. Tagore).

I try to keep true to the original spellings, but sometimes contemporary spellings have become widespread. For example, Keshab Chandra Sen, is perhaps the term people are looking for when searching for him.

Anyway, I don't know of any text where Keshab Chandra spelt his name as Kesub Chunder, but if I did, I'd have used that spelling.

Thanks again for your message and comments. --Ragib 07:41, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Good to know
See you around. - CrazyRussian talk/email 04:25, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Bengal related articles

 * Hi Mr Niyogi! We have not communicated earlier. I am here to thank you for your excellent contribution on Bengal related articles, especially on so many personalities. Please have a look at West Bengal and its FAC. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:55, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for your comments in the FAC of West Bengal. However, it would be better if you can give a heading in bold types, I mean you should write comment, object or support at the beginning of your post in an FAC. Thanks a lot. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 11:42, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Sangbad Prabhakar
In case of duplicate articles, the correct step is to put the mergewith and mergeto tags, rather than AFD. Thanks. --Ragib 03:41, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi
Are you from konnagar. I live in bhadreswar.--Iball 15:42, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi Niyogi, Thanks for encouragement and praise for my contributions. burdak 04:29, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi
We haven't been formally introduced but I've enjoyed reading many of your articles. Shubho Bijoya. Take care. --Anirban 03:44, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Shanti Swarup Bhatnagar
Hi P.K.Niyogi, I've tagged the above article as copyvio which would get deleted after a week's time. I've also informed the user on his talkpage. The next time you come across a copyvio, you can use the procedure mentioned in WP:CV by yourself. btw, there is an alternate article available at the title Shanti Swaroop Bhatnagar. Thanks for letting me know abt this copyvio. --Gurubrahma 13:45, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Question
Mr. Niyogi, Thanks for starting all those articles about prominent Brahmos, especially those hailing from East Bengal. I learnt a lot about this through the articles. Before that, I assumed the Brahmo Samaj movement was limited to Kolkata and the nearby regions ... I'm surprised that many people hailing from East Bengal had such prominent roles in it.

Now, I'm curious about some points, perhaps you can clarify some of these, since you are quite knowledgeable about this.

1. Many of these leaders of the movement seem to be from East Bengal. Is there any particular reason for that?

2. A lot of them seem to have settled in Hazaribag. Is there a reason for that? Or is it because you wrote about people who settled there?

Thanks again for starting the articles. --Ragib 04:51, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Just a naughty comment. Not only the leaders of Brahmo Samaj, most of the prominent Bengali people hail from East Bengal. Bangals are the pioneers! :) --Dwaipayan (talk) 11:08, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Portal:West Bengal
Please check out the Portal:West Bengal and help it improve. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 11:05, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Launching was the easiest part. The difficult part is maintaining the portal. Your help will be much needed. Thanks.--Dwaipayan (talk) 11:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comments on Ghanada. Dwaipayan has done a great job in creating the WB portal. Let us make it the best Indian state portal possible. :) Take care. --Antorjal 13:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The Birbhum article needs to expand its lead in. I have written a better lead in the bengali article (bn:বীরভূম জেলা) than my english version. Can you try to translate it back or at least adapt part of it? Also the article needs a bit more of wikifying. I didnt create many links as I didnt want it studded with too many red parts. I am right now terribly busy and taking an unofficial break from my admin job from bangla wikipedia.. I have been really away from english wiki. I am glad to see the Birbhum article so much improved. While linking to Murshidabad district I realized that there is not even an article on that (there is only one on the city!). Thanks again for your great job in writing and improving so many articles on West Bengal. --Dr.saptarshi 08:37, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

DYK

 * Good Job! Bakaman Bakatalk 02:31, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Next time leave me a message saying you were putting it up for DYK. I would have been more careful, though the info was irrelevant.Bakaman Bakatalk 02:41, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Niyogi-da good job. I'll add a pic of him tomorrow once I get it scanned. Take care. --Antorjal 02:43, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

About west bengal portal
Thanks for your note.--Iball 08:52, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Re DYK.
Excellent job on the Birbhum district page. I was quite busy yesterday and couldn't respond. I was reading a book recently on the tribals (Santhals) in Birbhum, Purulia, and Paschim Medinipur. I am planning on writing an article soon on the Santal Revolt and I will link that to the history section, if you don't mind. I might add some information on the culture of adivasis in the district, but overall, it reads well. I am hoping to get Paschim Medinipur and Purba Medinipur up to the same standard but there is so much to do and so little time. lol.

Thanks also for the note on the Portal. I will try to help as much as possible, but my help might be restricted to Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays, due to work pressures during the week.

I am glad you have dicovered the DYKs. It brings much greater exposure than simply creating an article. I didn't know about DYKs either until Dwaipayan mentioned that I should nominate Stoneman for a DYK and I did. Then after that since many articles were meeting the criteria, I kept adding them. Hope you will do too since your articles are informative and referenced.

Take care. I have to run in to work now. :) --Antorjal 14:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Birbhum
Hi! I would have really liked to support Birbhum in selected articles in West Bengal portal. But I cannot for some reasons. Some sections are small compared to other sections.( I know it is tough to find out resources). Again. some portions, like the small poem on palm tree ( It was nice to remember tal gach ek paye dariye...) is unencyclopedic, even if I sound rude. Demographics may be enhanced with religion data (may be deducible from the following sites: please see: [ http://www.censusindia.net/religiondata/] and ). I shall contact u again soon. Bye the way, how about starting a "selected biography" section in west bengal portal? You have created some excellent biographies so far. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:36, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah this clears my confusion.. I didnt realize that the message by Dwaipayan was aimed at you and not me.. I was wondering when I wrote a Biography in English wiki!.. Dont worry about Birbhum not reached its best form yet. Wikipedia is always a work in progress.. and its the motivations from small small achievements like getting to see your article get nominated or even suppported that keeps your drive up to improve the article.. Else we are all busy in real life. So no need to withdraw your nomination. If you see other states of India you will see that their districts are also in a equally bad state.. I went to Nichalp's user page.. one of mopst authentic the persons with regard to India related articles.. he has improved the state article like Goa.. But when I went to states of Goa.. they are merely a paragraph.. Then I went to Haryana.. same case.. then I thought may be Tamils are more well read then an avrage haryanvi.. but even tamil district articles are equally small!.. So no need to feel ashamed or anything..Rule of wikipedia is to be "bold". Being bold doesnot mean offending anybody. Just be confodent and ambitious in whatever you want to achieve. If the intention to achieve something is strong enough it will be achieved soon.

Thnanks to Atul Sur's book, I have enough information on west bengal.. I can make the ethnocultural history section much longer.. But that would look disproportionate. So I am waiting to let the other sections expand to a more balanced form. --Dr.saptarshi 01:55, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks...
Ya... I'll tell Dwaipayan who put the request for the map up to remove it. I think he's forgotten about it. Thanks for noticing the DYK nominations. I was happy to write on Rajnarayan Basu and Sannyasi Rebellion and felt the need for an article on Partition of Midnapore as well. Please let me know of any new articles relating to Bengal that you create since I have read quite a few of the ones you wrote in the past. I especially enjoyed the ones relating to the history of Bengal. :) Take care. --Antorjal 04:22, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Peer Review
I have submitted my article Shahbag for peer review. Would you, please, take alook at it? - Aditya Kabir 19:59, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Diwali greetings
Hi! A belated Happy Diwali and Kali puja!--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:31, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks...
Thank you dada for the encouraging comments. I am going to recreate the Birbhum map and then I think the Birbhum article will be selected for Portal:West Bengal. Also you are going a great job keeping the portal up-to-date with information. Unfortunately, last week or so, I didn't have any time to contribute on wikipedia so my activity was a lot less than usual. Take care. --Antorjal 23:53, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Birbhum:new concern
Hi! I am afraid the images in Birbhum District do not follow selected article criteria 4. The images do not follow acceptable copyright status point. "Pic by courtesy Information & Culture Deptt., Govt. of West Bengal" is not public domain. Govt of India pictures, unlike "works of US govt", are not in public domain...that's a problem.--Dwaipayan (talk) 21:22, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

WB FAC
Hi! West Bengal is in FAC. Express your views in the nomination page. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Photos of Birbhum
Does the DSP PR dept have any online announcement/statement saying the photos are free to use? If so, you can give a link to that web page while uploading every photo from them. Or, if there is some notice in their office stating this policy, you can take a photo of that notice and upload that photo wikipedia, and then go on uploading photos from their collection. That's what I can think of now. I shall refer this case to wikipedians who know more about these things. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, you can ask the PR dept to send you an email stating their policy. Then you can forward this mail to the Wikimedia Communications committee, the email adress being "permissions AT wikimedia DOT org", where it will be securely archived. For further clarification, please read Requesting copyright permission and Example requests for permission. Hope this helps. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:58, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Re Birbhum
I'll help out in any way possible with the Birbhum map. Unfortunately, I didn't have much time for wikipedia in the last 10 days. I'm hoping that'll change soon enough. Take care. Good news is looks like West Bengal will go through the FAC. Thanks. --Antorjal 18:34, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Portal: West Bengal - biographies
You must have noticed that selected biography has been started in Portal: West Bengal. i request to prepare summaries for so many biographies you created. Please see Portal:West Bengal/SC Summary where the selected contents are listed. Also see the biography summaries (link is there). You can just shift to edit mode and see how the templates have been used.

Unlike selected article and selected pictures, I decided not to go through the tedious selection procedure in case of selected biographies. Please comment if you don't agree with this. It will be great to have biographies of lesser known people appearing regularly in the portal.Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:12, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Districts on the map of WB
Thanks. I'm glad that you liked the maps. I was taking a bit of time, but I've finally added maps for all 19 districts of West Bengal one by one. Let me know if you need any map work done for Birbhum. Take care.--Antorjal 00:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

FYI
Please see Portal:West Bengal/Selected article candidates, where Bengali language has been nominated. Please comment. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:38, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Rasik Krishna Mallick
That's a very interesting and well written article. I did not know that tulsi leaf was used for swearing in at the time and the other information regarding this fascinating personality. Thanks for writing the article, it was a great read! --Antorjal 15:47, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
 * From me, too. Very nice.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:00, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comments re Kallol. I just wrote an article on Hiralal Sen which you might find interesting. Take care. --Antorjal 03:03, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Will you pl. look at the controversy of 4 pursuits in Hinduism?
Please.Swadhyayee 16:37, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Chittranjan Locomotive Works
I have answered your question in public (on the talk page of Talk:Chittranjan Locomotive Works), please let me know if you need me to help you. - Pernambuco 23:04, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

DYK

 * Congrats to you too.Bakaman Bakatalk 23:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Kadambini Ganguly
Hi. Just saw your edit to above while RC Patrol. Dropped in to say hello... --Bhadani 04:12, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Dear Niyogi Babu, Thank you for your message. Keep up the good work. Regards, LordGulliverofGalben

WP:INNEW
Since myself and Antorjal have started to use this page, its only fair to notify you that you can "advertise" any new pages you create at the Its new page on the indian noticeboard. Hope to see more DYK's from you.Bakaman Bakatalk 19:45, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. I was going to write the same thing but Bakasuprman messaged first. Every time you create a new article, you might want to consider adding to the noticeboard as it will grant more exposure. Also, I wanted to say that I just wrote Hemendrakumar Roy but it is kind of stubbish, if you remember anything about him or his creations please add to the article. Thanks. --Antorjal 21:30, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Urgent: DYK text for Kadambini Ganguly
Hi! Thanks a lot for upgrading the article. I've copyedited the notes and reference stuffs. However, do you think the DYK text ("...was mother of 8 and deft at needlework...") is ok? How about just "...was the first female doctor of European medicine system in South Asia..." or something like that? May be " Kadambini Ganguly, a prominent Brahmo and social worker, was the first female ..." - like this?

Another thing I noticed in the Banglapedia article - a libel case against Bangabasi editor. How about incorporating that in the article? Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 08:15, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Re Motilal Sheel
If you worked on the article that would be great. Thanks in advance. Antorjal

List of People from West Bengal
Mr. Niyogi, just wanted to explain my edits there. I have removed those people who were born in Eastern half of Bengal, what is now Bangladesh. The article is about people "From" West Bengal, so it will be better to include only people born there. This is unlike the category "People of Kolkata", which can easily include people who lived there in their later lives. I hope you understand my point. Thanks. --Ragib 01:33, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I wanted to include them under Category:Bangladeshi people, but got a lot of bad and hostile reaction from a section of Indian editors. Their main argument is that the region which is now Bangladesh was part of the British India at that time, and that Bangladesh didn't exist at that time. A discussion yielded no result/consensus. They are, clearly, from the region what is now Bangladesh. However, the category "Bangladeshi people", especially the word "Bangladeshi" seems to be disliked by these editors. Right now, what I am doing is to classify them under their home district categories. So, you'd find Dhirendranath Choudhury under the Category:Mymensingh District. I'll later move each of these to "People from X district" categories.


 * As for the question, whether they are listed under any Bangladeshi list, no they are mostly not, but you can add them under List of Bangladeshis or List of Bangladesh-related topics. The former is supposed to include people from the region what is now Bangladesh. Thanks. --Ragib 01:45, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I usually add the B'desh-district name if the person is from a District in Bangladesh.Bakaman Bakatalk 03:57, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for your help with merging the bot-created articles. -- Ganeshk  ( talk ) 07:59, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Request
Can you please create an article on Peary Charan Sarkar (the English First Book writer)? I could never find enough source in the web, and I do not have any book! Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:38, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

DYK

 * Congtrats. Its in main page. The DYK fact, however, has been changed. Did you change it? --Dwaipayan (talk) 17:14, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi! The change in DYK fact was not a vandalism. Often, admins who maintain/update DYKs change the DYK fact. This has happened in the past as well. Please don't be upset! I shall comment on Tagore Family later. How about adding one or two photos? Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:29, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Portal:West Bengal: Peer review
Hi! I've submitted Portal:West Bengal for Peer review. Please express your views/suggestions there. One of the problems with the portal is lack of selected pictures. Please see Portal talk:West Bengal where a thread on selected pictures has been started. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 11:30, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * In the peer review for Portal:West Bengal, it was mentioned that the news described in "In the news: section should have its source cited. Since you are the one who regularly updates the news section, I have a request. Whenever you happen to update the news section, could you please provide a (preferably) online source of the news. Usually any news website would suffice as a source. Pleasee see the Portal: India news section for the way the source is cited.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Yeah, thanks and congratz to you as well for gettin' so many articles to DYK. Keep up the great work. And keep rockin' ! Cheers ! -- N R S | T/M\B 09:55, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

General Note
People from western India may not know about Kadambini Ganguly. All these years I was under the impression that Anandi Gopal Joshi was the first indian women doctor...I firmly agree with you that the dates are contradicting...I am still unable to digest that Mrs. Joshi went to US in 1883 and completed her masters in 1886. School children in Maharastra are taught that she was the first Indian women doctor... May be our educationalists should be given more information..But I would like to thankyou that you throwed some light on Kadambini Ganguly  IndianCow  Talk  21:25, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi
Blnguyen created User DYK for users who have made DYK's.  Bakaman Bakatalk  00:47, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Chitpur
How about adding a few words on the jatra para of Chitpur?--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:17, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

For you...

 * Congrats to earning the barnstar, you definitely have worked hard. I would hope to work with you again but I've kind of been attacked in places on wikipedia and dont know what to think of wikipedia anymore. Bakaman Bakatalk  22:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for Peary Charan Sarkar. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 09:52, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

DYK archive
Hello. Thanks for keeping a watch. I have archived the DYKs from that day. - Aksi_great (talk) 04:42, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Did you know?

 * Great work on Dwarkanath. Congrats.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:37, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:Suggestion
Hi, sorry I missed your message earlier. I am not online so often these days. You are right. He deserves a barnstar. Why not give him one yourself? &mdash; Lost (talk) 09:34, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Reply - Yeah, 1757 is a little too early. Do you think we should finally try to set a guideline in stone? Does 1775-1947 work? Baka man  03:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the barnstar, guys! It really was a surprise!! -- Longhairandabeard 05:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Vandalism
I have reverted the test edits on Bhatpara. As for Kalyani, West Bengal, you will have to discuss with the editor that wikipedia is not a Yellow Pages for his college. If any of them repeat, give them a final warning. If they still don't listen, you can leave a message on my talk page. As of now, they cannot be blocked. - Aksi_great (talk) 19:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Sutanuti etc
Hi! Yes, please start adding info on any of the villages (at least). Then we can think of any other way, if needed. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 * By the way, you can add Template:Bn icon in this way for any website link/reference that is in Bengali. This will appear as.
 * Please see Sabitri Chatterjee for its use. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Reverting
No problem. It hardly took a millisecond. You might want to check out Help:Reverting. You'll be able to revert vandalism on your own then. - Aksi_great (talk) 09:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Have a look
Hi! Please have a look at Gerasim Lebedev. Have nominated it for DYK. Pretty interesting I guess. Please see if you can update. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 11:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, this Raygunakar Bharatchandra Ray seems not to be the same person as the one who wrote lyrics of Lebedev's drama. Their living time is not exactly matching! Lebedev's plays were performed in 1795 and 1796, while Bharatchandra of Annadamangal died in 1760. Of course Lebedev might have used earlier works of Bharatchandra. I don't know of any other poet Bharatchandra Ray! Any idea? Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:35, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I got the puzzle cracked. They are the same Bharatchandra. Please see the citation immediately following the name of Bharatchandra in the article. A report from Indian Express online edition. Bharatchandra's poem was indeed used by Lebedev. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:57, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Your edit to Khordha
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What happened to you guys?
Its been too quiet on the Bengal/WB/Bang wiki projects. Baka man  21:03, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for John Elliot Drinkwater Bethune. It was needed. I'll go through it and see if any modification is needed. Have you put it up for DYK? Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:59, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

DYK!
Thank you for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  21:28, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!
I was on vacation for about a month but now I am back.... Happy Holdays! Antorjal 23:05, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy new year in advance
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