User talk:P4k/second archive

WikiProject: Electronic Music
Hi, I noticed that you were part of an Electronic Music WikiProject. This sounds like something that I would be interested in contributing towards. How can I get involved? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bravo November (talk • contribs) 18:06, August 30, 2007 (UTC)


 * If you want to become a member you can add your username here. In my experience there isn't that much difference between "being a member of the Electronic Music WikiProject" and just "being someone who edits electronic music articles," but I've used it as a place to ask questions and get other people to help with articles I'm working on (by listing them here).  Two etiquette things: you should put new comments at the bottom of a talk page, not the top, and you should sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ).  Btw I'm sorry I put your page up for speedy deletion, there are less drastic measures that I should have takent instead.--P4k 18:17, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Maybe that's not that helpful. I'm sorry, I'm kind of in a hurry right now, I'll try to think of more stuff later.--P4k 18:23, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: deletion of MJRC page
I'm getting to know the ropes, so thank you for your patience! My understanding is that if a quotation is cited, there is no copyright infringment. I'm not really sure what I did wrong, and now because the page is deleted, I can't even see what was there. But I know there was a citation! Now, four of these squigglies are supposed to sign my name and stuff, right? GracieRuth 05:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Thanks
You're welcome. Happy to help. And I'm keeping a very close eye on that user now. Regards. Will (aka Wimt ) 00:58, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Truth in Numbers
hey about your message on my talk page concerning this article, not only did I create the article but I added the DB tag. You see I created the page to link to a wikipedia documentary but I failed to notice that the doc was deleted, hence the Recreation of deleted material reason. Feel free to delete the article it's useless. Na uf ana :  talk  01:31, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I've done stuff like that. I just leave those messages automatically, sorry for clogging up your talk page.--P4k 01:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize it was an automated message... that's a great service to offer. Thanks for the consideration. Na uf ana :  talk  19:52, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


 * haha no I mean I just leave a message whenever I put a db tag on an article, without really thinking about it. Anyway it's not important.--P4k 20:57, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Definitely didn't know about that. Thanks. The thing is, Anselm's argument is much more specific than ontological argument in general. For "ontological argument" to redirect to Anselm's argument is like "birds" redirecting to a page on herons. But I guess it'll do for now. Funetikahl 19:55 25 June 2007 (PST)

Yeah. It is a problem. If I redirect "Ontological argument" to "Ontology," will what was formerly "Ontological argument" stay as "Anselm's argument"? Funetikahl 20:03 25 June 2007 (PST)

Muh (US Band) Article
hello, I was wondering, why was my article tagged for speedy deletion? Muh (band) 00:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Muh (US band)
Thnak you, but I would like to let you know that this was not for any promotional purposes. Yet by letting you know that, I think I broke a "rule" by making my user name the name of something (like a person, band, etc.) If possible, can you explain a little further on what I should do. Muh (band) 01:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, thank you for helping me out. If I have any more queastions, I will ask you. Once again, thanks for leading me. Muh (band) 00:04, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism.
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing.

I was just wondering whether you could shed some light on the recent apparent personal attack on my user discussion page and perhaps convey some import as to what purpose it served? Jachin 09:58, 28 June 2007 (UTC)


 * It was in reference to your "new messages" banner prank. I hate those and think they're retarded, and apparently I left a message on your talk page to that effect back in May.  Since it's a message on your talk page commenting on your edits, not you, I can't see how it's either vandalism or a personal attack, although it certainly wasn't very civil of me.--P4k 19:52, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

just so you know
Ethan is one of my friends and he wanted me to do it. it was a joke. Just currious... How did you find it? Drew


 * You can see newly created pages here. It would be nice if you'd stop doing stuff like this.--P4k 21:01, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom
I created this article last night and just wanted to say cheers to you for tying up all the loose ends I should've really done then but forgot. Even the change of dab for that woman boxer. Anyways, please add anything to the article since I think it's way too small for two artists with a fairly large body of work. Plum743 22:38, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for creating it. I actually don't really know anything about them other than hearing tons of hype for the Carl Craig remix of Revelee.--P4k 22:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

kudos
that's what i call quick off the mark. --Kaini 02:23, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Well I was doing new-page patrolling (or whatever) and I saw it go by. Thanks for unvandalizing my user page btw.--P4k 02:44, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * you usually respond here so i was keeping an eye on it; you can have a vandalized infobox now if you want such a thing, i guess. personally i think they're awful. but i still have a few. i've updated hyperdub with a logo as well now. this new hardline on fair use images is a real pain in the ass imo, it makes lawyers of every one of us :( --Kaini 02:53, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * It's irritating. I don't know anything about copyright law so maybe it's necessary, but I kind of doubt it.  Those vandalized infoboxes are...odd.  I don't really see myself as being at war with vandals or anything.--P4k 03:00, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * i don't do any new page patrolling personally, but i have a large watchlist, and some of the things on it are fairly heavily vandalized. i dunno, it really irritates me personally, unless it's creative like this edit :) --Kaini 03:32, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Farouk Kamoun
Thank you for wanting this page to exist


 * To be honest I have mixed feelings about it. :/--P4k 21:09, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You were right to remove the tag--it does assert notability clearly--and he is probably even notable. But as you say, it's an very poor article in other respects, so I sent it to prod in the hopes it will be improved. DGG 23:08, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah your solution was a good one, I wish I'd done something similar originally.--P4k 23:12, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I guess I've gotten kind of deletion-happy of late.--P4k 23:13, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Zewb509
This user just vandalised Jimbo wales and I reverted it, but I don't know how to do the warning sequences that I know should be put in place. I wonder if you would warn him or block him, as he seems to be causing general disruption, looking at his talk page. Clavecin 11:44, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


 * It looks like someone else did it but for future reference you can find all the warnings at WP:UTM.--P4k 16:42, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Camp Hermosa entry deleted
Hello. You deleted the Camp Hermosa page today. In my opinion, it wasn't blatant advertising for a product or service. I added the hangon, and made a couple of changes, but it was deleted anyway. I guess I thought I might get some message of explanation, since I'm obviously not selling porn or viagra. It was just an article indicating where the camp is, with its mission statement, adn a link to the camp. It's not a commercial business or product.

Any info you could provide would be helpful. Thanks. Camphermosa 18:37, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually User:Pascal.Tesson deleted it. It was probably unfair of me to call it "blatant advertising"; I guess what made me see that way was the "fun and exciting" clause and your username.  I don't know what changes you made.--P4k 18:46, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. I have made previous anonymous entries on other things in Wikipedia, but I created that username specifically to work on the camp information here. I suppose when I see my local bus company has info here, it makes as much sense for people who are interested in the camp to see some info here. Pascal did reply, indicating that he forgot to reply to me earlier. Thanks, anyways... Camphermosa 18:56, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Electronic music/projects
yo, i've added you to the active list on dubstep and skream, cos you are, a bit :P. hope you don't mind. --Kaini 02:55, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


 * No, thanks, I'm honored ;)--P4k 02:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


 * aka: i just figured out how to put multiple user template in the one box in a table, haha!. check out this lovely footage (of skinny whiteboys nodding and beardstroking, lolz). dunno if you're UK-based (i'm in Ireland), but these guys deliver worldwide. i could spend a LOT of money on their website. --Kaini 03:20, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


 * It's funny to see that one guy literally chinstroking at the beginning. I'm American but I never buy vinyl (or, well, music) in any case.--P4k 03:45, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Cosmic disco
Please stop removing speedy deletion notices from articles that you have created yourself. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. You have not provide the proper resolution to remove the request for deletion. Do not remote the CSD tag yourself or you will be blocked. If you disagree with the reason for deletion, then you must take the appropriate steps, removing the tag is not proper.Tiggerjay 05:18, 6 July 2007 (UTC)


 * It wasn't a speedy deletion tag, it was a prod.
 * I didn't create the article.
 * If my edit summary wasn't clear, I removed the prod because it had already been removed once before and the prod template states that a prod shouldn't be replaced after it's been removed.--P4k 05:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, but as we can see, it was deleted. Have a good weekend! Tiggerjay 20:39, 6 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, thanks for notifying me.--P4k 21:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC)


 * So do you still believe that it is no longer an CSD a7 issue? Tiggerjay 06:42, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Well it's about a music genre as well as a club, so no, a7's not that applicable. That's not to say I necessarily believe the article can survive in the long term.  In any case, this discussion should probably take place on the article talk page, and I'm going to bed and won't be responding to anything else until tomorrow.  Peace.--P4k 06:49, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

BatchMaster Software
P4K: You have added the notability stub on BatchMaster Software article. Just to bring to your knowledge, BatchMaster Software is the premier provider of ERP solutions to formula/recipe based process manufacturers.

Further, there are numerous references in the 'External Links' section to avoid clutterring the main body. BatchMaster Software has been profiled in the Microsoft website, APICS (The de-facto guide for manufacturing standards) website and there are several printed articles in the media highlighting the company and/or the product range, a few of which have been included in the external links section.

I sincerely believe that the inclusion in the notability stub is not justified and am removing the tag.

Girish Bhandari 06:06, 6 July 2007 (UTC)


 * You're probably right. That said, if you have references you should put them in a "References" section, that's kind of the point.--P4k 11:06, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Follow Freeman
I thought those edits were vandalism. I was doing Special:Recentchanges patrolling, I am sorry. WP:AGF (Talk)  00:44, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

About
About my last change; if it was about a band or something like that; then why is other bands and stuff like that in Wikipeida. It serves no purpose!

Just wondering..not trying to sound mean


 * Not to be rude but I don't really understand what you're asking. In theory every wikipedia article has to be about a subject that's sufficiently notable; articles that can't meet that standard are supposed to get deleted and usually are. Articles about bands are fine as long as the band is notable enough, and the article demonstrates that.--P4k 02:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

oh - ok..but the band and shows that I put up are independent; and no one has really heard about them..


 * I know. Articles about subjects like that aren't supposed to exist on Wikipedia.--P4k 22:20, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Can I make an article for a friend?
I want to make an article for a friend of mine! Can you allow it through for me please? It is an independent youtube channel that he wants to be a little more famous.


 * No, sorry. Wikipedia isn't intended for stuff like that.  Read the page I linked to above.--P4k 00:41, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

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Marilyn Carroll.
Hey,

Wow.. I never seen a discusion page for one person so long...!

About the comment you gave me. Can you please what I wrote that is a personal attack? Also, it should be worth mentioning that I just started working on the page and I wasn't done. Please explain how I could reword what I wrote so it isn't a personal attack. That wasn't my intent WHAT SO EVER. Thank you for your help. Carniv 17:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, here's the reason the page was deleted:


 * " It is a page created primarily to disparage its subject or a biography of a living person that is controversial in tone and unsourced, where there is no neutral point of view version in the history to revert to (CSD G10)."


 * I felt like this described the article because it was repeating a lot of harsh allegations without any sources. Thus, "controversial in tone and unsourced."  To be fair it attributed those allegations to other people rather than just stating them as fact, but it still just seemed really dodgy to me.  I'm sorry about the message I left on your talk page; it's a form letter that's not really that relevant in this situation.  I should have left a more useful message, but you know, we're all volunteers here.  I can't really offer you any advice about the article other than to read (or at least skim) WP:BLP and wikipedia's notability guidelines for people, and to work on it offline or in "userspace" if you don't want to worry about it getting deleted before you're done.--P4k 19:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey,

Thanks for the response. I guess I don't understand what it was that I wrote that was "harsh allegations". You also said it was "controversial in tone and unsourced", please explain how it was unsourced. Every piece of evidence (what little I had already added) was sourced from In Defense of Animals and Marilyn Carroll's biography. If you are saying this is an attack page because I'm writing about someone specific, I have found many many researchers that have Wikipedia pages. How can I find what I wrote since I didn't save it on my computer and rework it. Thank you!Carniv 23:58, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


 * "harsh allegations" = the long list of horrible experiments she's allegedly performed at the end of the article. I don't remember the text of the article exactly so maybe all that stuff was attributed to In Defense of Animals; if so then you're right, you did have a source.  I don't really think that makes the article OK, but then I never saw the finished version so I could be wrong.  Many people have wikipedia pages who shouldn't.  You can ask the admin who deleted the article (in this case User:JodyB) or another admin to see the text of it; I don't know if they usually grant those requests but I think they do.--P4k 00:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey,

What I added at the end was what the primates have gone through according to Marilyn Carroll in research articles she published. I do agree that it is horrible but I didn't make it up. I have persnally reveiwed many articles she has written and those are all things that she herself has reported. Carniv 00:32, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Well like I said, I don't remember the text of the article exactly. If you cited her papers in the article then, again, I was wrong in calling it unsourced.--P4k 00:39, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

The revert
Thank you for it. :) Acalamari 01:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

re: notability
"Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BAND#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles

--Nnoctis 02:59, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert...
Thanks for the revert on my talk page. Douglasmtaylor 07:33, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure. God this guy is tiresome.--P4k 07:34, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

WP:UAA
Hey, WP:UAA is for reporting username violations, not vandalism only account. You can still get indefinite blocks from WP:AIV for such vandalism problems. Cheers :) SGGH speak! 21:48, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I know. I reported it because the username included a reference to MER-C.--P4k 21:54, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

BOOOO
Welcome yourself! I have been a member for over a year, and am not seeing any benifits!


 * So leave. It's just a form letter, I'm not going to write a personalized message for everyone.--P4k 04:31, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Requested speedy, some nonsense about music
Hahaha, I saw that in the deletion log as well, I'm quite interested in what that article said to be honest.. I was also amused by the fact that the first revision of the current article was a redirect to Grime. - Zeibura (Talk) 11:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I guess now we know. It was actually pretty accurate!--P4k 19:52, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I was about to say that it's actually the other way round, i.e. grime is an offshoot of dubstep, but the second clause is spot on at least. By the way, have you seen this? :D


 * I always thought they just shared a common ancestor but I mean...I don't actually know what I'm talking about. I had not seen that thread, thanks for the link.  I had no idea Pinch was in "Children of Men" (I've never listened to him), I'm going to fix that now.--P4k 20:55, 18 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, the timeline is a bit distorted because grime rose to popularity in a matter of a few months, whereas dubstep took 5 or 6 years. It's definitely true that because of grime, dubstep got so popular over here, but I think they went international roughly the same time. I did know dubstep first, but probably cos I grew up near Croydon.
 * It always slips my mind how many people must actually be reading these articles we're writing. - Zeibura (Talk) 21:11, 18 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Some of them. I think there are a lot of articles here that no one ever reads other than the people who edit them.  I'm American; I don't know when they both arrived here but personally I remember that I was aware of Dizzee Rascal and Wiley before I'd heard of Dubstep.  There was so much more hype about Grime that even if they did go international at the same time it wasn't really the same thing.--P4k 22:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Redirects
One of the redirects on Lykocheia does link to nowhere, that will immediately be changed to Lykochia since it is the main name and has information, thank you. Pumpie 23:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

The rest of the redirects are fine. Pumpie 23:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Hadith is now a subcat of Islam
Hi there. I saw you're comment about Category:Hadith on the talk page of Category:Islam. I've put it in. Better late than never!. MP (talk•contribs) 22:31, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks I guess. I don't remember saying that at all.--P4k 03:35, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Qwerty1qwerty
Hi, just to explain that I removed your final warning from this user's talk page as I had already posted one. I have reported him/her to WP:AIV instead. Thanks =) SMC89 ( talk • contribs ) 09:04, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Fair enough.--P4k 09:06, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

img
Thanks for the Autechre image. -- anon


 * You're welcome.--P4k 22:25, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

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Afd
re: Still Movement Records; you might as well look at this too: Enslave Records I thought I was missing something. Flowanda | Talk 00:56, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I guess I'll prod it.--P4k 00:57, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Victory Records
Looks OK to me. The main problem before had been a one-sided account of a lawsuit they were facing. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 11:34, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

The deletion of the Go Paranoid entry.
I believe it was you who deleted my entry for Go Paranoid, or at least you're the one who put a comment on my talk page. I was wondering exactly what in the entry makes it up for deletion. I contribute to the blog, so therefore I am a primary source for the wikipedia article, and the external link takes visitors directly to the blog. This is to see if the wikipedia entry and the content of the blog don't conflict with each other.

If I need to put a source for every section of the wikipedia I will do that. However, the wiki entry is brand new and I'm still figuring out how to work the interface—that is why I didn't put sources up first since this was just a first pass at the article. The goparanoid.com website also gets updated itself as well, and much like my now delete wikipedia entry it is a work in progress.

Saadc85 00:26, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * If you read the message on your talk page, it says that the article was deleted because it didn't assert the significance (as measured by these criteria) of the website. Also, creating articles about your own website is a conflict of interest, but that's a seperate issue.  If you want to work on the article without worrying about it being deleted, you should create a user subpage, although my guess is that in this case there's no way you could make an acceptable Wikipedia article about this topic.--P4k 01:19, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Just wanted to say thanks for reverting the vandalism on my page by Someone69. Thanks!


 * You're welcome.--P4k 22:46, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Cosmic disco music - space disco
You can't refer to this self-addressed pseudo-subgenre of danceable popular music form calling it "Cosmic music", because the same term has been used in Europe and USA since early 1970s as referring to a new form of space-themed instrumental music with spatial sonic features (see Space music). ^_^ . --Doktor Who 22:58, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * This belongs on the article's talk page, so I'll respond there.--P4k 23:01, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Lil Mama
I was reverting another editor's contra-Manual of Style edits that were made before yours, and I didn't realise you had made an intermediate edit so I unknowingly undid it. Apologies! Extraordinary Machine 11:58, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Paganistic Gromanism is back again -- and again -- but I haven't yet figured out how to get the user's IP number with WHOIS so that I can get him blocked. Can you help? Thanks for your assistance with this persistent vandal. Accounting4Taste 01:49, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I can't, sorry. The article has been deleted five times so it'll probably be protected soon enough.--P4k 01:55, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
I didn't get around to it last night, but thanks for removing the attack page made in my honour last night. I think it was my first. :O) FlowerpotmaN &middot;( t ) 02:07, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Adding PS: well attack page is probably too strong a term, but still a first. FlowerpotmaN &middot;( t ) 02:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. I must have just tagged it instead of deleting it; I'm not an admin.--P4k 02:14, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

We Owe You Nothing: Punk Planet: The Collected Interviews
I saw that you added this reference to the Los Crudos article. Does that book mention Ebro playing drums with Charles Bronson? Charles Bronson (band) is up for deletion and I was wondering if there is a source that verifies these two bands had the same drummer? I have no expertise in the genre or either group.  dissolve talk  20:06, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't own the book, I just found it on Google Books. If you search inside it for "Charles Bronson," one of the hits is in the middle of the Los Crudos interview, but the content is restricted.--P4k 20:22, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

deletion of Sonic Belligeranza article
Hi there,

I've read your deletetion log specificating my article mentioned in the headline just above was more addressed to editors than to general readers. I'm not sure I quite understood what does this practically mean? In term of writing what you would suggest me to do if I can ask..... I'd love to prepare a better text but before I want to grasp more your comment. I'm a new Wikipedia user, ok I read some help-lines but maybe if you got time and will your tips can be pretious.

ciao —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scaphandre (talk • contribs) 12:55, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry xoxo your fellow wikipedia user. Beau Parent-Woldenberg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beau Parent (talk • contribs) 04:30, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

3RR on 9/11 Truth Movement
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. - Debeo Morium: to be morally bound (Talk | Contribs) 23:10, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * This is not really worth discussing on the talk page.--P4k 23:17, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * That doesn't excuse an edit war. Two people wanted it one way, and your the only person so far who wanted it your way. What little consensus exists is against you, yet you feel an edit war is justified. The misconduct is the edit war, not the content which you were waring about. - Debeo Morium: to be morally bound (Talk | Contribs) 23:54, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * If it's reverted again, I'll bring it to the talk page, otherwise this is moot. I don't know why I responded to your warning template; sorry for wasting your time.--P4k 00:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

 * No problem. Thanks for the barnstar.--P4k 04:27, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

RE:The Number Twelve Looks Like You
I was reverting it has vandalism because the user was removing content w/o explaining why in the edit summary, maybe I should have been more lenient and done a good faith revert, but it appeared to be vandalism at the time. Thank you, Tiptoety 04:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * this is the content the user removed. Tiptoety 04:21, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay, maybe they re-arranged content, and i did not look hard enough and got a little trigger happy, my bad. I still beleve they needed to fill in the edit summary explaining what they are doing. Tiptoety 04:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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Hi P4k. Thanks for the advice. I will take this up with W. Marsh. How can I fix that first problem with the article that you said was fixable? Since it's a new company (as in, I launched it last Friday, 09/07/07), is there some way I can have a Wikipedia page still? I realize that there isn't yet any coverage for it in any verifiable independent well-respected publications or other information resources, but does that bar me from having a page altogether? It seems like it should not.

Regards, John Philip Becker JPB Consulting —Preceding unsigned comment added by Newwaveescape (talk • contribs) 05:22, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, ok. Bummer. I'll have to generate some positive press in the Cincinnati area, at least, and then sit back and watch the magic happen. Thanks again for all your help. You're great.

Regards, John Philip Becker JPB Consulting —Preceding unsigned comment added by Newwaveescape (talk • contribs) 06:42, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Your Pet Peeve
I could not tell exactly what you where getting at in this diff. If you wish to change something in my sandbox you have my blessing providing you do not remove more than what is needed for your purpose. Warm regards. Edivorce 13:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

deletion
I never deleted anything to begin with SKREAM 01:47, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * You're misreading my message. I nominated WikiWideWeb for speedy deletion.P4k 01:48, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

deletion
I would like to know why my article has been nominated for deletion. Can you please explain to me? I even provided a link. I also feel that it needs time to grow, and that it was not given a chance. SKREAM 01:52, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The article doesn't explain how the site is notable, as judged by these criteria. It wasn't given a chance, but based on the information in the article it seems like the site almost certainly isn't notable, and giving the article time to grow won't change that.P4k 01:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

notability
can you please explain to me what notability is? I read a little about it on wikipedia, but i still don't seem to understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SKREAM (talk • contribs) 01:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

I seem to see it now. WikiWideWeb is not noticed enough for it to be in wikipedia SKREAM 02:00, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Basically, yeah. It hasn't been written about in independent reliable sources.P4k 02:03, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

wikiwideweb
Just one question, if wikiwideweb is ever by some chance popular, then it would be considered notable? SKREAM 02:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure, notability can change and sometimes does.P4k 02:08, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

RV Vandalism
Thanks a million for reverting vandalism to my userpage. It's good to know that while I'm away alot, there are still others patrolling the Wiki! --Use the force (Talk * Contribs) 19:13, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


 * No problem.P4k 03:08, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

article you asked for
has been moved to User:P4k/Marcus Intalex. If you can find some good refs that meet notability for musicians, move it back and say clearly that you've added important material; if not, just put on the top. & it will be deleted. If you enable your email from your user preferences page, then copies of most deleted articles can be emailed if you just want to see them, which is even easier. DGG (talk) 04:17, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

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dj darkside
thanks for the heads up. yeah, i saw it, thought it was just about notable if the original contributors fleshed it out, and tried to clean it up. they haven't, so that's absolutely fine by me. i've started a new job, not as much time for wiki lately :( --Kaini 23:09, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Megaliths
As you mentioned I didn't know how to archive properly but you seem to have lost it altogether ... could you help please? Abtract 23:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I got it deleted because it was in mainspace. I don't know anything about archiving talk pages so I can't really help you, sorry.P4k 08:14, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


 * That was a bit precipitous, without informing me of your intentions. Where/how can I recover the information? Who actually did the deed? Abtract 23:19, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Recover the information from wherever you got it the first time, presumably it'll still be in the page history. The admin who deleted it is listed here, apparently it was Kubigula.P4k 23:29, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Disco
Hi. Did you mean to undo my formatting there? I'm not convinced either of the merit of your additions and was tempted to revert back to my version but I thought I would talk to you first. --John 14:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Nothing was added by my edit I don't think. I tried to restore all your formatting.P4k 14:42, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, I get it now. Yeah I accidentally first restored the version after the one I meant to restore.P4k 14:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Please Read the Discussion on the Talk Page
Before nominating an article for deletion.Likebox 20:25, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I skimmed it, it didn't seem to really address my concerns. The only thing someone could say on the talk page that would have prevented me from AfD'ing the article would be "I know the article doesn't demonstrate that he's notable now, but there are lots more reliable sources that I'm going to add soon."P4k 20:29, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Trolls Blood
A tag has been placed on Trolls Blood, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia per CSD A7.

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is appropriate, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add  on the top of the article and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion. To do this, add  on the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag) and leave a note on the page's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. Chase me ladies, I&#39;m the Cavalry 22:26, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Archimedes Plutonium
As the author of the most recent version of this page, I implore you to please read about the subject of the article, who was probably the single most well known individual on USENET. I don't know if you are old enough to remember this era, but I find the fact that there is no article on this character completely incomprehesible, and perhaps is due to the fact that the man has a large number of enemies who are active on WP. He is arguably the most prolific, most notable scientific crank in human history. It is very important that you consider articles for deletion because you are familiar with the issue and feel they are frivolous, not because you don't know the history of the subject. I hope you do not take my comments unkindly.Likebox 06:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your actions. I can't tell you how much this means to me.Likebox 20:10, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

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deletion??
Just wondering what the "Woops I Ran Over Your Child" page was deleted for. It was still under construction.


 * I don't know, I never saw that article.P4k (talk) 15:39, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for helping a new user out with the back up on the Old Soul article. Also, nice Achewood link, there. --PopeUrban (talk) 05:08, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * You're welcome, but keep in mind it might still be deleted through this process, a lot of the time the bar for notability is set pretty high.P4k (talk) 05:28, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Justice
Concerning your recent removal of the info added on the page for the musical group Justice, you are mostly correct. The Myspace categorization was presumably in jest; I'd noted a magazine article which brought it up to them, to which they noted that it's just an aesthetic, though many religious individuals believe that they are sincere in their choice of symbols.--C.Logan (talk) 20:10, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Language
Re your comment in Talk:Book of Mormon. It's clear from looking at other edits you've made that you can express yourself very well without obscenities.

I ask that you please do so. Wanderer57 (talk) 02:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Malcolm X edits
My edits reflected wiki policy on trivia sections, lists and uncited information. If you want to do the heavy lifting and find reliable, verifiable and notable sources for the bits, feel free to do so. Until then, the material remain on the discussion page, and only on the discussion page. Sorry for all the harsh, but that is indeed policy. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  07:09, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Why didn't you leave this on the article's talk page? I think you need to reread the policy (what does "notable sources" even mean?), but I don't really feel like spending a lot of time arguing over it.P4k (talk) 13:59, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Bloodthirsty Butchers
I'm sorry, I didn't know that A7 didn't cover movies. — Cuyler  91093  -  Соитяівцтіоиѕ  08:16, 28 January 2008 (UTC)