User talk:P64/FSF/Alexander/List of Prydain characters


 * Some fictions


 * Middle-earth

done years ago by WP:WPME using hard cats, some done by Paine Ellsworth recently ; shows no hint of navbox Middle-earth or any one of a dozen other ME navbox
 * Narnia

; incomplete June 2015, populated entirely by rcat templates and often with e0 explanations
 * Oz (franchise) ;

redirects not tagged
 * Pern

redirects not tagged ;
 * Harry Potter

redirects not tagged, wikiproject converted to task force ; --where navbox Harry Potter is again invisible (as at )
 * Prydain

✅ 2015-07-02 ; needs announcement/proposal to WP redirects and perhaps WP fictional characters too


 * Shakespeare

where too the navbox is invisible (as at )


 * 2015-06-23 related wikiprojects
 * WPCHAR WP:CHAR; index + 5 talk archives from 2011-0202, -0226, -0522, -1116, [gap] 2013-1126 [now relatively inactive]
 * WPRedirect WP:WPREDIRECT; 3 talk archives from 2006-1026, 2010-0110, 2014-0823 (1 section)

tell them about spring 2015 rclassification of R from person, routinely with explanation of that parameter (albeit e0 is more prominent and is stable)

tell them printworthy may be used for a Book --printworthy in Book:Narnia although not in a printed version of English Wikipedia

Category talk:Harry Potter characters --reply late 2015-06-23

2015-06-21 --article counts (no redirect templates or other special pages, as reported by CatScan V3.0)
 * R fe
 * populates the flat (839) 851
 * of which (36) 33
 * diff 803
 * (16) 16 + 81 + 34 = 131
 * (0) 5 + 38 + 9 = 52

2015-06-22: the two "elements" redirect cats include the character and location as subcats, with notices at Category talk:The Chronicles of Narnia and Category talk:The Chronicles of Prydain, which main cats also include the character and location cats directly


 * R fc
 * populates the flat (6031) 6039
 * (269) 271
 * diff 5764

Those two have talk pages claimed by WP Fictional characters and WP Anime


 * R fp
 * populates the flat (56) 2015-06-29 half Narnia and numerous Prydain

*

template R fw ; ;

top
 * < !-- 2015-06-30 {underconstruction}

working toward rcat for redirects related to a work of fiction by work, that is by fiction, e.g. Middle-earth (implemented by hard category Middle-earth redirects) or Narnia; presumably to generate subcats of Redirects by topic learning from R from fictional place, or Template:R fp begin by copy/paste that template code here -->
 * < !-- franchise, series, universe, etc -->
 * Redirects by topic< !-- temporary --> < !-- temporary; currently unused -->

Template R fw, Prydain illustration
For The Chronicles of Prydain fantasy novel series --and related short story collection, film, and video game-- i visited all incoming redirects (61) and classified them using redirect templates; in particular, using Redr, often with some explanation by parameter e0.

Broadly this illustration uses a new redirect template, now simply R fw and undocumented, to mimic the multitudinous collection under, which is implemented as a hard category. Further, many of the Prydain redirects are diffused to three substantial subcategories using existing redirect templates for fictional characters, elements, and places --albeit without respect to whether the redirect targets are lists. (WikiProject Middle-earth, in contrast, uses its own hierarchy of so-to-speak procedural rather than substantial subcategories. Pardon the terms.) Indeed, all except alternative and modified pagenames are in the three subcategories.

The parent is populated automatically by template R fw, which I created this week by copy-paste-modification of template R from fictional place. The subcat is populated automatically by R fp, which I modified last fortnight to work same as the fictional character and fictional element redirect templates R fc and R fe. (--the same, that is, except the auto-populated location redirects category name does not specify that the redirects target lists, as for the auto-populated character and element rcats. For more information see the text prefaces on the four Prydain rcat pages, and its three subcats.)

P.S. Hundreds of redirects related to The Chronicles of Narnia are partly classified along the same lines, but [a] initially without benefit of the parent category, so the three subcategories contain multiple pages for some entities, and [b] I quit before its completing the task, as one too big for the illustrative purpose (see what links to The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe).

Narnia
See incoming links including many redirects to ✅


 * List of The Chronicles of Narnia characters
 * List of Narnian creatures
 * both in [in Narnia and *several* fChar cats] --containing both lists, list of actors, and 43 alpha pages inclg 6 redirects (all substantial, 3 section/anchor)


 * List of places in The Chronicles of Narnia
 * [in Narnia and fLoc] --containing that list, another top page, and 10 alpha pages inclg 4 redirects (all substantial, all section/anchor)
 * [in Narnia and fLoc] --containing that list, another top page, and 10 alpha pages inclg 4 redirects (all substantial, all section/anchor)

(top) 20 pages inclg 3 top List of The Chronicles of Narnia related topics 3 + (special) and 14 alpha
 * 1 accolades, 1+5 adaptations, 1 religion
 * (6 elements/events) Battles Battle Battle DawnTreader DeplorableWord Hundred-YearWinter -- of which DawnTreader tangible

2015-06-29 related redirect categories -- each with template underconstruction and explanatory preface List of The Chronicles of Narnia characters; List of Narnian creatures; List of places in The Chronicles of Narnia
 * 16 (+81+34 = ) – mainly thematic or alt-name, no objects--but e.g. redirects to character Peter Pevensie
 * 81 [incl about 54]
 * 34 [incl 28]

(empty)

Middle-earth redirects
Middle-earth (perhaps covering Tolkien) does not use this structure. Rather, {WP ME} uses 8 dedicated for diffusion to subcats on a radically different scheme, and the parent  (1278) is implemented as a hard category.
 * Middle-earth redirects|2 (3558); diff=2280 --where the auto-generated subcats contain about 2600 pages in sum. Reading the auto-gen subcats top to bottom, the numbers of their pages also in the parent category is 0, 0, 0, 3, 2, 0, 0, 174 -- that is 3/443 sections; 2/577 alternative names; 174/901 to lists.
 * Some diffusion to auto-gen subcats has been implemented by hard categories.
 * 11 articles link here, of which 3 Middle-earth, 8 punk rock band
 * 1 article links here

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Middle-earth
 * in progress 2015-07-02

[reply done 2015-07-02]

By the way, using rcat templates this fortnight I classified all 61 redirect pages related to a small fictional work in parent and three subcategories. --P64 (talk) 23:29, 2 July 2015 (UTC)