User talk:PC78/Archive 2007

Heyy!
Thanks for your contribution on the Ha Ri-su article! I am very much a Ha Ri-su fan :P

Oh, and welcome to Wikipedia! AQu01rius (User | Talk | Websites) 16:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

WP:LGBT
Hi, PC78 - thanks for the adds to the LGBT project! Have you considered becoming an official member of the project? All it takes is adding your name to the membership list... :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 22:37, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Spider Woman
Please explain why you removed the reference to the Dine Spider Woman. Dine Spider Woman is a complete and seperate cultural identification and should not be just a incidental note on another page. I will write the page soon, but don't just take off the Dine reference. She lives on top of Spider Rock, a soaring, 800-foot-high free-standing spire in Canyon del Muerto. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Al95521 (talk • contribs) 17:35, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Morrison
_ _ No, i'm actually an advocate for the value of red lks on LoPbN, pretty much as a case of their value anywhere in WP. Without reviewing, what sticks in my mind in this case is
 * - blue lks to non-bio articles that don't even include bios (and in one case is the target of a rdr, that turned the deletion of a n-n bio into sort of a merge into the article on the person's works)
 * - mentions that seemed to me to suggest unsuitability of the person as the subject of non-deletable bio.

The theoretical criterion i aspire to apply is
 * - actual bio articles (but i've got a little hedging trick called Deln trk list entry for those i suspect are deletable), and
 * - rd lks likely to correspond to people who could have non-deletable bios.

_ _ Now, i may have erred on one or more Morrisons in my relative haste, and if in your mind i haven't closed all cases, i'd be more than happy to reconsider per your specific inputs, and respond. --Jerzyâ¢t 17:16, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

LGBT Project Template
Hi, PC78! Glad to see you adding the template to articles - There seem to be so many! Two comments to consider. One, go ahead and rate the article when you add the banner - most of the time it's easy (stub), but be bold and rate however you want. Two, the "talkheader" template should only be used on pages that see a lot of comments - see the talkheader page for more info. And thanks again for your help!! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 07:30, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies
Seeing that you are an active member of the WikiBiography Project, I was wondering if you would help lend a hand in helping us clear out the amount of [unassessed articles] tagged with. Many of them are of stub and start class, but a few are of B or A caliber. Getting a simple assessment rating can help us start moving many of these biographies to a higher quality article. Thank you! --Ozgod 21:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for helping out - it is greatly appreciated! In time you will get the hang of it - seeing which articles are or are not stub or start class. Right now the important thing for us to do is get them tagged so they can move onto the next phase of development. Again, thank you for contributing! --Ozgod 07:20, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Kirby page move
Hi, I wrote a response to your vote here. Crumbsucker 21:00, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Biography March 2007 Newsletter
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WikiProject Films February Newsletter
The February 2007 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Cbrown1023 talk 23:31, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Kirkbie Kendal School
I've removed the speedy deletion tag from the above article. While the subject might not be notable, the article does assert notability in a reasonable way. You may wish to list it at WP:AFD instead, to get a broader consensus on the article. Thanks for your time and your hard work reporting these articles - even though I'm not deleting this particular one, your efforts are very much appreciated. Kafziel Talk 13:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Teresa Cheung
I only moved the notes from the opening down to the main text where db and spouse was developed further, just a common practice. And the 1959 flag is appropriate, as she was born before 1997. --regards, Camptown 11:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Batyr Berdiyev WP bio template
In this edit, you said that Berdiyev is a living person. However, there are rumors floating around saying that he might be dead. Would it be possible to change the template so that it would say "possibly living person"?--Ed  Â¿CÃ³mo estÃ¡s? 00:43, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I just removed the line. Thanks!--Ed  Â¿CÃ³mo estÃ¡s? 00:56, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

March WP:FILMS Newsletter
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Meryl Streep
I believe I may have moved it to GA status before I became an active participant in WP:BIO and became aware of the whole process of rating and assessing articles. --Ozgod 03:44, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Peer review/Ananthabhadram/archive1
Submitted Ananthabhadram for a peer review. Would you care to take a look? Aditya Kabir 05:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

The WikiProject Biography Newsletter: Issue II - April 2007
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Maundy Thursday
Hi - I see you've said this movie has a pedophile theme. I've only been able to find that the protagonist had an 'abusive' father. Was this sexual abuse and if so, what age was the boy? Thanks. Tony 09:08, 27 April 2007 (UTC)Tony

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"Ditto"
I know that's what wiktionary is for. But does it really matter? Many words have disambiguation articles where the word's meaning is told like that, and I think at least some people will look up ditto on Wikipedia to just fast check what it means. Well, whatever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.181.111.212 (talk) 09:59, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

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biography summer assessment drive
 WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive! WikiProject Biography is holding a three month long assessment drive! The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unassessed articles. The drive is running from June 1, 2007 â September 1, 2007.

Awards to be won range from delicacies such as the WikiCookie to the great Golden Wiki Award. There are over 110,000 articles to assess so please visit the drive's page and help out!

This drive was conceived of and organized by Psychless with the help of Ozgod. Regards, Psych <font color="DarkGreen">less <font color="DarkGreen">Type <font color="DarkGreen">words! . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Climie.ca (talk • contribs) 23:36, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
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Wardrobe
Hello, User:PC78, you seem to have more of an idea than I how to do a rename here, for Wardrobe, which is surely going to be consensus soon, do you think? If you would care to, I suggest by all means you do it then, whenever is best, if you are happy with that. I will follow what you do, because I haven't done any renames yet, nor quite know how to follow the instructions for that procedure in full.
 * The alternative is we call for help from another User, or Help, but if you are happy to do it, that would be fine by me. Regards, User:Newbyguesses - Talk 02:41, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Isha Sesay
Hi there; no, Cite web isn't a requirement, but I prefer it because citation templates provide a high degree of uniformity and professional look to the articles, and if something needs to be changed format-wise in the future, you only have to change the template to affect all the related articles. Just a neat, simple way of doing things. I highly recommend it! ;) You can check out WP:CITET to see some of the other citation templates available for different purposes.

Out of curiosity, why was the "Minister for Economic Development" bit removed? It is the specific title given in the Mano Vision citation, as opposed to just the generic "advisor" title. Also, images are normally best left at the top of the page, rather than somewhere midway (though, to be honest, I should have removed the image entirely as it constitutes a fair-use violation). -- Huntster  <sup style="font-size:9px;">T • @ • C 17:04, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Gotcha regarding "advisor"...good middle ground. Weak rationale for the image, perhaps, but I do suppose it skims by for now.  Don't be surprised if it eventually is removed, as I doubt an admin would permit it to stay. --  Huntster  <sup style="font-size:9px;">T • @ • C 17:21, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Robert Grossman
Your note in page history reads "(tagged for inappropriate tone - reads more like a fan site or essay than an encyclopedic article)". I'm something of a Wiki novice; can you cite 2-3 of the most glaring examples? I want to be sure I'm on right track, as it seems I'll be appealing to you in particular for removal of this stigmatic tag. (My computer crashed before I could sign. This is Relgif)71.222.115.225 08:48, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * PC78 - Thank you. Your critiques are sound.  In fact, I have no objection to your skimming the effusiveness off the text as it stands as of this morning.  If that significantly shortens it, so be it.  Your work will serve as an example to me, not only at this page, but on any future pages. Relgif 18:57, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * PC78 - I believe I have addressed a number of your concerns by removing material that betrayed obvious partiality.   This was mainly a subtractive process;  I have located several good sources I intend to use to make the piece more informative, specific, and less "editorial".  Thank you.Relgif 03:48, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:Harisu_DoDo_commercial.jpg
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Re: Linkspam
From what I've seen, the Korean film reviews are blanketed across multiple Korean films indiscriminately. The strong Wikipedia presence despite its minimal reputation seems to suggest a cheap contribution to "link farms" in External links. I've left alone reviews and similar pages that have actually been implemented into the article. I'm not targeting just these reviews -- I'm working off my subpage, based on widespread external link distributions that I've encountered or links that I've come across in subsequent clean-ups. Let me know if there is an issue. External links ought to be for supplementary content that can help the article but does not have a place for it -- meaning, for a historical film, a historian's review would be appropriate for it, and not an indiscriminate link choice that doesn't take into account the topic of the film. Erik (talk • contrib) - 18:38, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * (I'll respond here since the thread seems to have led here). It seems that your reason for deleting these links is simply because they are "blanketed" across Wikipedia. There is a very good reason for this. It is the most reliable and thorough English-language source for information and reviews of Korean films available. (If you know of a better one, please provide it, as that imaginary source would be very useful for improving these articles.) The articles and reviews linked at these sites-- at least the ones I've seen removed-- are not at all "indiscriminate." They all pertain directly to the film or actor which is the subject of the article. When we've got so many completely unsourced articles, to remove these links is to remove valuable sourcing from these articles, and to lessen their quality. Rizzleboffin 19:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Butterfly hidden MV
If memory serves, the MV will appear when u click on the butterfly on the menu in the 2nd disk ( or the 1st disk XD ) Enjoy! Da Vynci 11:27, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Korea Assessment
I think tonights run will probably work now, although of course there's still a few non-standard categories that cam't be counted. I changed a lot of stuff here ... if there's anything you don't like, just go ahead and change it. -- Prove It (talk) 14:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
Delivered on 16:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC).

Janghwa Hongreyon-jon
A template has been added to the article Janghwa Hongreyon-jon, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please tag it with db-author. NeilN 02:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Korea
If you look at the current version, the Three Kingdoms image bleeds into the text. Is this preferrable to the amended layout I worked on?Shehzadashiq 08:45, 24 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I think I have figured out what the problem is. I use firefox and you use IE. Both browsers display pages differently. In firefox bleeding is shown whilst in IE it is not visible. Sorry about that.

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Name tables
Hi PC78,

Thanks for your question, and all your good work on Korea-related topics. I think it would be best to merge the two templates, but this will be a bit tricky -- not because of the order (I'm not sure the order in Koreanname is quite right anyway), but because two of the sets are labeled differently in Koreanname and Koreanruler (namely the posthumous (post/ph) and birth (b/born) names). So either the alternate labels will need to be incorporated into Koreanname, or each invocation of Koreanruler will need to be checked and converted by hand.

I'd volunteer for the job, but seem to be a bit pressed for time at the moment. "Real life"... so overrated. :-( Cheers, -- Visviva 20:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Infoboxes Person & Biography: merger proposal
You might be interested in commenting on, or assisting with, this proposal to merge Infobox Person and Infobox Biography. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 14:57, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Goguryeo-guk
Goguryeo-guk literally means "Goguryeo country". The sites you have seen on the web are mostl likely about the state of Goguryeo. The creation of the Goguryeo-Guk article was a futile attempt to name one of the brief revival movements for Goguryeo. In historical texts, there was a mention of this said revival movement, but it was not called Goguryeo-country. Even the original creator of the article agrees with the deletion of this page, and the contents be moved to a new article titled revival movements of Goguryeo Odst 23:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

What??? I think that's exactly what I said. well, in that case, What I say now overlaps whatever different thing I may have said before. Odst 23:41, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

I did say there was no such thing in that context. You do not seem to have much knowledge of the Korean language. In speech, when one says Goguryeo-guk, it means nation of Goguryeo. It is as if one says a country called Korea, for example. The word Goguryeo-guk is only reserved for some parts of speech. There is no official term such as Goguryeo-guk, as Goguryeo is called simply called Goguryeo.

I apologize if what I said before on the talk page caused confusion for you. Odst 23:59, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Korean district
Sorry for the late response. I was busy working on my little project for Wikipedia. The template you are current working looks great. The only concern I have is 'Short form.' I don't think it will be used a lot and this kind of information usually goes into the intro section of articles. Also, it would be great to rename it (or create new one and redirect the old one) to like other infoboxes.

In addition, I totally agree with moving Koreanname to Infobox Korean name. As I was always told, WP:BB :D eDenE  03:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Info box actors
I thought we decided at WikiProject Actors the convention is to use gold for living actors and silver for deceased. Please respect this. I find is frustrating that despite establishing the Actor/Filmmaker project on wikipedia I am not permitted to have a say in the infoboxes!!! Personally I am not a fan of the off yellow color anyway ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  <font size="-4"><font color="Purple">"Expecting you?" <font size="-4"><font color="Grey">Contribs 11:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Great idea I've seen what has been done now it keeps silver by death date and blocks out colors other than silver or gold. Great!!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ <font size="-4"><font color="Purple">"Expecting you?" <font size="-4"><font color="Grey">Contribs 11:24, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I didn't say we "own the info box" but we certainly have every right to administer and upkeep it as much as "admin" do. I've said all along I strongly prefer the silver. I can't do much more than this than state my opinion. If we must have gold why can't it actually be a gold color rather than an off yellow?. The doubt the guarders of the box are going to listen to a word or my opinion anyway ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  <font size="-4"><font color="Purple">"Expecting you?" <font size="-4"><font color="Grey">Contribs 11:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC).

Films
OK thanks. Its funny as I keep coming across your name today!!! You did Miracle on 1st Street didn't you. I'm currently drawing up a list of films by country of the world - including America! Please feel free to add any missing film to List of South Korean films or whatever you are interested in. Yes the infobox thing does need to be decided on - but it would be good if you could select the color that appeals to you in your preference options wouldn't it. This would save a lot of disgreements. It can be difficult deciding on a format that millions of people ar happy and agree with!!! Regards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  <font size="-4"><font color="Purple">"Expecting you?" <font size="-4"><font color="Grey">Contribs 12:15, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
Delivered on 16:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC).

Deleted
I have deleted User:PC78/Sandbox/a per your request. SchuminWeb (Talk) 07:51, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Chinese
Your last edits to this template look good, with the exception of "Vietnamese name". I don't want to revert over such a small detail, but can you fix it please? Cheers! PC78 19:10, 24 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Oops, I made a typo in the code. Thanks for pointing that out! —Remember the dot (talk) 19:14, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your kind invitation to join the WP Korea project; much appreciated. My main focus is on martial arts articles, but if I start working more on Korean articles later, I would be honoured to join. In the meantime, I will continue contributing to Korean articles as I am able. Janggeom 03:05, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Korean name infobox
Hi! May I ask you which is the right infobox I can use in the future? User:^demonBot2 has changed a hugh number of boxes a few days ago, e.g. Hong Sung-Heon. So I used the same style. Now you changed this style to the next style... I am confused... and it is not nice to have so many different styles! Please inform me what to do. Thanks and :) Doma-w 02:05, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your answer. I understand, but then there is no need for this Template:Infobox Korean name anymore, when the box is styled individual for every person. Happy editing :) Doma-w 10:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I would like to have at least all Olympic competitiors from Korea with the same infobox. And for me the easiest way is to use Template:Infobox Korean name, without a change of color and width. I only want to know which infobox I can use for all Olympic competitiors from Korea, without thinking about color and width. Is there a way? Up to now I thought there is a reason for the color of this infobox? I am back later. Thanks :) Doma-w 10:57, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for being so patient to me! Now I understand the system with this infobox. Kind regards :) Doma-w 19:51, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion of templates
Hello. Please be careful when applying speedy deletion tag to templates. For one thing, most templates cannot and should not be speedy deleted (see WP:CSD for details) and should be sent to templates for deletion. The other important thing to remember is that you absolutely must use the noinclude tags or a whole bunch of pages on which that template is transcluded will end up in the speedy deletion category. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 02:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, it was (and still is) transcluded on Template talk:Vietnamese which ended up in the CSD category. In any case, even for obvious cases of deletion, please go to TfD unless there is some urgency to delete the template. In some cases, what may look like a test edit may end up being a deprecated template in which case a redirect would be a better solution. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 15:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Width
I'm speaking as someone who uses the templates and needs to adjust things. Often the "width" parameter is not already given and I have to try out a half dozen different names for this parameter until I find the right one. For the user on the ground implementing these templates, keeping things simple and standardized is best. Badagnani 17:57, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I use the parameter name all the time; in fact just did for an article that did not previously have it. Simplest really is best. Badagnani 18:01, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, clever! I do use the function a lot, also in the Chinese box which is nearly identical to the Korean one (as we modeled it on the Korean one). Badagnani 18:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Change in image
This change makes the logo look bad. Could you please check these things before you implement them? Badagnani 19:22, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't. For one, one cannot even read the text. It would be really wonderful if you would fix this. Badagnani 19:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

It was standard/preferable/fine before. Now the lavender box (which should just be a bar) surrounds the image, looking very strange and non-standard; the image is not centered, and it's too small. The previous way was just fine. Badagnani 19:27, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

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End of WP:Bio assessment drive
I have reraised the issue (see towards the bottom) as to whether assessors should receive all the awards they qualify for or only the highest one. Your input is appreciated. Broken Sphere Msg me 18:13, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Template talk:Orphan
I've responded to your request. - <font color="#0000cd">auburn <font color="#EF6521">pilot  talk  19:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Template
To my knowledge, GFDL requires that all merged content should be redirected.  Singu larity  22:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

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Question +
Hey there. If you have time, I have a question over at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Actors_and_Filmmakers. I have a feeling no one is going to respond, and you seem quite experienced, so I would very much appreciate it if you would please take a look. Also, if you can, check out the section below that; I seem to be the only person giving the FAC article in question a close reading. Thanks, Melty girl 15:03, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Changing redirects
(removing comment made in mistake)

I went through the entire discussion there, and while it is highly confusing, I see that the end result was your statement. My apologies. <font color="8B00FF">Ariel <font color="F64A8A">♥ <font color="007FFF">Gold 23:19, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I really want to apologize again, because I have been trying to figure out how the heck that page even ended up on my watched list! And I realized it was this edit that got my attention on Vandal patrol, which I reverted as it was a cut/paste of an existing disamb page, creating a WP:FORK. (And boy, was my explanation worded badly, lol. I meant he pasted a disamb page and ended up typing it totally wrong, sheesh lol) However, you should note that there is an edit war going on with that page, for some silly reason (I honestly can't see why anyone is so picky about where it goes. If it goes to one place and they want the other, the link is at the top, what's the big deal? lol) But while I did revert my edit, Reginmund has reverted me. So I will leave it to you and remove it from my watched list, lol. Sorry again. <font color="8B00FF">Ariel <font color="F64A8A">♥ <font color="007FFF">Gold 23:27, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Iron maiden
Is this an actual policy to redirect an ambiguous capitalisation as to title by ambiguous capitalisation? Because there has already been discussion over it. The consensus on Talk:Iron maiden (torture device) was about moving the page, not the redirect. If you want to discuss where the redirect should go, feel free because consensus can change but don't substitute consensus for a different topic with it. Reginmund 00:10, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep it civil. I think that it is common sense to direct a a grammatical difference to its grammatical difference. If it has a different title to disambiguate, although I don't generally agree with that, it is fine considering that it is specified. Now, do you actually want to discuss the redirect? Because there has already been a discussion. If you want to open another one, go ahead but mind you that the redirect and the title aren't the same thing. Reginmund 00:26, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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 * It was deleted at the request of Madman as a temporary deletion for a history merge and housekeeping. It is not permanent, but I will restore it if the deletion is entirely unnecessary. the_undertow talk  23:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. Cool. the_undertow talk  23:59, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

It's back - have a blast :P the_undertow talk  18:24, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Isha Sesay
Isha Sesay is no longer an ITN journalist, that's why I have removed her for this category once again. <font color="#0099ff">GMc <font color="#0099ff">talk 20:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Cillian Murphy FAC
Hey, if you have the time and inclination to do an FAC review, I've self-nominated Cillian Murphy, and there don't seem to be that many people available to review. I'd love to get your expert opinion. It's at Featured article candidates/Cillian Murphy‎. Thanks! --Melty girl 18:39, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Articles for deletion/Jae J. Jang
Hello – thanks for the message. I reviewed the deletion discussion at your request, along with the article's history and revisions, and I stand by my conclusion.

The discussion lasted 12 days, 10 of which were after the translation and rewrite. The article was originally created as a tribute to this man, if it wasn't an autobiography (I don't think it was, but it's possible). The creator tried nine times to return it to his original version, Korean text included. More importantly, though, after it was translated and rewritten, only two editors in 10 days voiced an opinion who had not already participated in the discussion. Both favored deletion. Another factor: two of the 'keep' positions said 'weak keep.' The translator didn't even change his 'weak keep' position after he translated the article. That's not exactly a robust statement of confidence.

AFD is not a vote – it really is a discussion, and a simple 4-3 count of !votes isn't sufficient. The closing administrator reads and considers the entire discussion, then determines consensus, but we also have to look at the article's content, its history, and the number and type of articles linked to it. Then we use our best judgment as trusted community members to evaluate the whole package and determine what's best for the encyclopedia.

Taking all those factors into consideration, I came to the conclusion that the man is just not notable, and I deleted the article. If he becomes notable sometime in the future, the article can be recreated. If you disagree, of course, you can open a deletion review discussion. Thanks again for the message. :-) Krakatoa  Katie  21:59, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

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Eidelon (Farscape)
I have reviewed the article Eidelon (Farscape) and found it to be: In your edit summary, you stated that a "merge of some kind would be preferable". If you believe this case, please:
 * Failing notability requirements of WP:FICTION as it contains no assertion of notability, analysis or context;
 * Has no independent sources which can be verified;
 * The article itself is primarily focused on plot summary which make up its content.
 * Effect merger of the page with another; or
 * Propose a merger with another page. To this end, I would suggest you select one of the templates under the Category:Merge templates and attach it to the top of the article.

In the meantime, could I ask when you will be actually undertaking either the merger or proposed merger which you are proposing? --Gavin Collins 12:36, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

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Hey, Peeps, it's that time of the month again (no not that time &mdash; get your mind out of the gutter): time for another monthly edition of the LGBT Project's Love Boat newsletter from your cruise director Miss Julie. So much has been happening this month and I just can't wait to tell you all about it!!!

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Alice and her harasser
Let's start with some good news: Alice and the project lost the bothersome sock puppet who had been disrupting many articles we monitor, and now most of us can edit in relative peace. Congratulations, Alice, for being able to come out of semi-retirement. Benjiboi, on the other hand, has gained an anonymous IP stalker who seems to be more Catholic than the Pope and who has a hard-on for the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. We seem to have a sort of Yin and Yang thing going on here, which helps both to keep us in balance and on our toes.

Harry Potter and his homosexual teacher
Albus Dumbledore got outed this month, and was immediately adopted by our project. The international brouhaha surrounding this disclosure reached all the way to Wikiland, and his article was briefly locked due to homophobic vandalism (as well as well meaning editors who just couldn't believe that that nice man could possibly be gay). This is a wonderful article to add to your watchlist, and will surely give you hours of reverting fun on cold winter days.

"My Fellow Americans"
On a more serious note, Fireplace has suggested a new article series about LGBT rights in the United States, state by state. This ambitious topic will surely require many editors and a lot of research, but has the potential to add further prestige to our already prestigious project.

Same name, same sexuality: a riddle for the ages
Francis Bacon (not the new gay one, but the old gay one ... though they're actually both dead, now that I think about it) has also aroused passions here on Wikipedia, with editors opposing his sexuality being disclosed in his biography. The always helpful Haiduc has thoughtfully provided any number of sources, but it is slow going getting his point across. Anyone want to lend a hand?

Beat writer arouses Irish guy
And speaking of passions, Jack Kerouac has inflamed the senses once again with editors, including administrator Irishguy, mounting a spirited defense to keep him as heterosexual as possible for Wikipedia purposes. Why? I don't know. Perhaps some of you can drop by the talk page and ask your questions there. I feel certain a stimulating debate will ensue that will be enjoyed by all.

Love those Texas Longhorns
Did you know that one of our Featured articles, Lawrence v. Texas, lost its shiny gold star? That was a shocker. It has been suggested that we turn our attention to it in an effort to restore it to its former glory. I took a peek, and it does need our help badly. For our American editors, it would seem almost a civic duty to edit it (not that I'm hinting....).

Point and Counterpoint
Though it was far too intellectual a debate for a mere cruise director like myself to take part in, Intersexuality was certainly a hot topic a week or two ago. The thrust of the debate was over inclusion in our project. Lots of good editors had lots of good opinions. For those too lazy to check out the discussion, we decided to leave it out for now.

Drudgery on offer
Peer review is, as always, short staffed and seemingly unloved. Wouldn't you feel better about yourself and the world in general if you took a few minutes to read one of the listed articles and offer some helpful advice? I know I'd feel better if you did.
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"My Fellow Americans" redux
The article LGBT movements in the United States certainly raised eyebrows last week, especially when it was discovered that copyrighted content had been added to our article. Tragedy was averted at the last minute, though, when the original hosts of the article where the material had been pilfered agreed to make it free to everyone. Our thanks to them, whoever they are. Busy Bee that I am, I haven't had time to read it, but I'm sure it's sensational.

This month's Wiki stars
Lesbian pulp fiction (a genre close to my heart, I must confess) writer Ann Bannon has decided to spice up the featured articles candidates list this month. Why not drop by and make your opinion heard? Joining her in this lofty aspiration are the articles But I'm a Cheerleader and Conversion therapy. I'm sure their main editors would welcome any comments (well, helpful ones, anyway) on the talk pages or the FAC discussions. And lest we forget, the List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: Sd-Si became a Featured list!! Rah rah, siskumbah! Go, team, GO!!!!

And the Oscar goes to...
Not content to run for Best Actress, plucky Bannon won a Best supporting actress Oscar... whoops, I meant to say Ann is also getting more than her share of womanly attention on the Good Article list. Joining her on this exalted plane are Freddy Mercury, Waylon Smithers and Lance Bass. Good articles indeed, and the last one mentioned just goes to show that one needn't admire the subject of an article to appreciate the effort put into making him worthwhile reading. What on earth Britney ever saw in him I'll never know. Truly a riddle cloaked in an enigma and wrapped around a puzzle.

Fresh faces to brighten our pages
Though I may not be the first, let me extend a warm, LGBT Love Boat welcome to the 12 new members who joined us in October: Jliberty, JockCub360, ChristopherEdwards, Desiderius82, Zlrussell, Kelsied, BeardedWoof, Mujerado, Tyrfing, Fabgurrl, Redl@nds597198, and decafdyke! Whatever you choose to do here, I feel sure that your contributions will enhance our project to no end. And if they don't...well, let's just say that I'm not shy.

Leather and lace
On a personal note, your already overworked cruise director is being cyberly whipped almost daily by Nemissimo, who desperately wants to get the German BDSM translation copy edited and used as a replacement for the current one. It's such a ... err, stimulating topic that I am sure many of you will want to join the copy editing fun. Jump right in, folks! It's so lonely copy editing it all by my lonesome!

Late breaking news
A little birdie just whispered in my ear that our noble collaboration project was delisted from the Community Portal due to inactivity. When asked how this scandalous turn of events could have occurred, the answer I received was "we suck at stuff like that". Well. In the first place, I disagree that sucking should be considered a negative, but to each his or her own. In the second place, I have full confidence that we can and will collaborate with other projects in the future. So let's not view this as a setback (even though it is), but rather a challenge to improve (and good Lord, I sound almost Wikipedian!).

Champagne dreams and caviar kisses
Lastly, the holidays are rapidly approaching. Our American cousins are currently getting ready to slaughter masses of poultry in an effort to show their gratitude and generally peaceful demeanor, and those of the Canadian persuasion, trendsetters that they are, celebrated a bit early this year. I'm sure all us foreigners will join together in wishing them all a very happy Thanksgiving on their respective holidays, both already celebrated and forthcoming... though I would hope somebody would enlighten me as to why they don't celebrate it on the same day. I was awake all last night trying to figure that one out. - In the spirit of this peculiarly North American holiday, let me take a moment to thank all of our editors for their contributions to this project. It's people like you who make people like me...well, a "people person"! May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon.
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