User talk:PD.Baker24

Hi
Regarding your edits to Man Down, you clearly do not know how to properly edit an article. For instance, the first time you wrote Anthony Mandler in the lead info with a wiki link was perfect, but the next time you mention him, or any person who does not go by a single name (like Madonna, Rihanna, Beyonce), you only write their surname without a wiki link. Plus, the prose was quite bad, with unnecessary hyphens and double spacing before and after a comma. I am currently editing this article per a Peer Review, as I am taking this article to GA, so in future, please use the talk page to discuss large or drastic edits, which is what the talk page is for. Thanks. Calvin  &bull; 9 9 9  12:43, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, i did not know that, I will bare that in mind next time, Thankyou. PD.Baker24 (talk) 13:19, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

To be honest actually there was hardly anything wrong with it as I copied the template from California King Bed. And could you not be rude by saying "wtf?" and saying I do not know how to edit articles properly please, I find it highly offensive. Also, you edited it by saying "fiffy-nine" instead of "fifty-nine" so don't have a go at me. PD.Baker24 (talk) 13:21, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * There was several things wrong with it, you really need to study prose in other articles, I suggest looking at GA articles so you fully understand the style in which you should be writing. Plus, you really need to check your grammar and wording, as well as research when you should use certain punctuation. Calvin  &bull; 9 9 9  13:41, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * You need to check yours! You spelt fifty wrong and completely ruin the structure of the opening and then tell me to check my grammer? PD.Baker24 (talk) 13:44, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * There is nothing wrong with the Lead info! That's how it is supposed to be! No two articles are the same! My Peer Review is finished now, and I am merging my version of Man Down in to the article, which I have been working on for weeks. Don't change anything which is different (which isn't that much) because otherwise you are undoing all the work which I have done which is needed to make it qualifiable for GAN. Calvin  &bull; 9 9 9  13:50, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * We shouldn't just all follow you just because YOU want to get on with your GAN! You're not the be all and end all of Wikipedia that's why anyone can edit it! PD.Baker24 (talk) 14:14, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * What? What I'm saying is, you were adding and changing things which I had already changed per a Peer Review, do you even know what that is? It's when an editor who has never had anything to do with the article reviews it, and tells you how to improve it. I had made improvements, which you changed. That's what I mean by asking you not to make edits where I have made edits in order to improve it. The article you see now is the result of three different editors from the PR giving advice on how to improve, which I have done. Obviously anyone can make edits, but it annoys me when I have spent so long editing something and then someone comes along and makes changes which are not necessary, that's all. Calvin  &bull; 9 9 9  14:26, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

When you format references on an article, can you at least check to see how it is done in the rest of the article? You formatted that Belgium ref on Man Down as Year-Day-Month, when every other ref in the article is Year-Month-Day. Be consistent. Calvin  &bull; 9 9 9  19:21, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Cut-and-paste moves
Do not move articles by cutting and pasting them, as it causes licensing problems. If you cannot perform the move yourself, use WP:RM. In the case of Man Down, I should be able to repair the damage you have caused, but it isn't generally possible.&mdash;Kww(talk) 14:38, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Also, you shouldn't remove your edit warnings, like I saw you had below. Calvin  &bull; 9 9 9  16:00, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Twitter
Is not a reliable source. See WP:RS AND WP:TWITTER. Calvin  &bull; 9 9 9  19:58, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello
In response to the stuff that has transpired between you and Calvin, please read BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. Thank you.  I Help, When I Can. [12] 20:25, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

July 2011
I am not happy about this at all as I have to wait now when I could be editing! Not impressed Wikipedia! PD.Baker24 (talk) 15:23, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

In reply, yes it has ended! How would I have made another account then? I have honestly waited ages to edit Wikipedia and have served my time. It ended at 3am on July 23, 2011!!! Why would I lie. The block for iluvrihanna24 had ended! Why should I have to sort this out because you have got it wrong? PD.Baker24 (talk) 15:33, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * No, Iluvrhianna24 is still blocked. TN X Man  15:49, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

NO ITS NOT!!!! It expired on July 23, 2011 (2 days ago) how would i have been able to make a new account! URGH!!! I don't appreciate being ignored sespecially when i have done nothing wrong! get back to me!

Answer yourself this, why would I be making so much fuss if I did something wrong? Last time I did I didnt care and left for 6 months but I'm sticking up for myself here because I am innocent and I'm getting more wound up by the minute that no one is responding!!!!!!!


 * Calm down. Had it crossed your mind that maybe no administrators involved with this is online at the moment or perhaps haven't refreshed their watch-lists? Calvin  &bull; 9 9 9  18:59, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I'm fed up, you would be too if you got banned for no reason! I havent been able to edit all day! PD.Baker24 (talk) 19:10, 25 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Note to reviewing admins, it was me who reported this account. Rihanna/PC.Baker as you see here you have been blocked from editing under every account indefinitely, meaning you are not permitted to edit on Wikipedia, sorry. - (CK)Lakeshade  -  talk2me  - 19:47, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Seriously what the hell???!!!! i'm fed up of explaining myself. This is how you work Wikipedia. You just ban people for no reason and then they give up fighting! MY PREVIOUS ACCOUNT WAS NOT BANNED. It expired 23 JULY 2011!!!!!!! Can someone answer me this for once, how would I have been able to make an account if i was blocked? I made an ew account after i had waited for iluvrihanna24's to be unblocked so I could put the bad things behind me. THIS IS INHUMANE!!!

NOT FAIR
I am crying now as I feel so upset. I like the way we editors get banned for being rude but I have been told "WTF" to for no reason since I started editing, and now I have been banned for no reason and haven't been able to edit for 2 days. It is not fair and I understand you think I am decieving you but I waited 6 long months to edit again I wouldn't just waste that! Now I created a new account and started fresh. And then 2 days later I'm banned again. I've already been through this and don't want to do it again, please! PD.Baker24 (talk) 15:58, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Im sorry, you have been blocked indefinitely. You were told here "with an expiry time of indefinite", here User_talk:Iluvrihanna24 and here User_talk:Christmasiscoming4u. And with all those times you still fail to understand that you were blocked, this is one of the main reasons for your block in the first place as the reason was "Unfortunately, good intentions are not enough. There is a minimum level of competence that is expected if one is to edit an encyclopedia. Patience has been extended to you, guidance has been offered, but it has not been effective. Your best bet at this point is to consider the standard offer for blocked users." Im sorry but its unlikely that the block will be lifted. - (CK)Lakeshade  -  talk2me  - 18:27, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

You see on all the other accounts I have retalliated and said I don't care and then went, I am not giving up because I DID NOTHING WRONG! I'm fed up of explaining this but on iluvrihanna24 it says I was due to start edit again July 23, 2011! I made a new account and began again. WHat's wrong with that. Anyway i think I know what's happened here. At my school I used to edit and iluvrihanna24 ends there in October for some reason (it's a problematic school). But here in my house it finished at July. This is my IP address not the school's and I am honestly not being sneaky or anything I have served my time for 6 months I have just started editing properly with no harm and then I get banned. Someone please help me! I know whoever is going to reply to this will just tell me the same but I AM INNOCENT! PD.Baker24 (talk) 17:48, 27 July 2011 (UTC) ;(


 * You're making it sound like you've being wrongly convicted of murder and are facing the death penalty with your "I'm innocent" pleas! Just accept that you have been indefinitely blocked. You're requests have been declined. Stop acting immaturely and writing such things on this page, because it's not doing you any favours. Calvin  &bull; 9 9 9  18:15, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm the one that blocked you indefinitely in the first place, ( see ), but I do remember mentioning the standard offer of unblocking you if you refrained from socking for 6 months (which would appear to be where the 6 month discussion comes in). Let me consult with a checkuser familiar with your case, and I will get back to you as to whether or not you met your commitment. I will also consider your behaviour under this account. Hold tight: it may take a few days, but I will at least promise a fair investigation.&mdash;Kww(talk) 18:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you explain why you believe there was a six month clock starting on January 23rd? I can't find anything in mine or Amalthea's contribution history for January 23 that would support that.&mdash;Kww(talk) 18:37, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

First of all, THANKYOU for listening to me as i am innocent. I jsut meant 6 months approximately but I dont mean a couple of months I do mean extremely close to 6 months but it definetely said July 23, 2011 and I have been waiting several months to edit again and its been taken away from me.

^^Calvin, no I will not just accept that I have been blocked indefinetely as I have done nothing wrong and served my punishment time. I may be acting strongly but that's because I am truly innocent and not "immature"! You would be annoyed if someone accused you of something you haven't done! PD.Baker24 (talk) 18:50, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but people can't seem to prove what you are saying, though it looks like someone is willing to look into it. Calvin  &bull; 9 9 9  18:52, 27 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I need more to go on than that: can you remember who said July 23? Which of your socks they said it to? I just can't find anything.&mdash;Kww(talk) 18:53, 27 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright i figured this out. No-one said this to you as you claimed, Kww blocked Your IP User:82.24.227.215 for 6 months rather than indef because you were sockpuppeting, thats why you were able to create a new account. The IP block expired at 03:45, 23 July 2011. So now what to do...... - (CK)Lakeshade  -  talk2me  - 19:01, 27 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I was just about to say i thought it was kww. YES THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT IT ENDED AT AROUND 3AM IN THE MORNING i REMEMBER IT CLEARLY. I waited 6 months to edit please see how innocent I am, please. Please don't block me forever, I haven't done anything wrong! :( PD.Baker24 (talk) 19:36, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Your "im innocent" thing is getting extremely redundant, so stop that please. You're not "innocent" or i wouldn't have gotten you blocked; you're a sock-puppet of an account that was indefinitely blocked from editing, multiple times. Id be more inclined to support an unblock if you had learned from your mistakes, but you havnt judging from this talk page and from the edits to this account, if you're unblocked it wont be long before you're blocked again. Its up to Kww if he unblocks you or not but don't hold your breath. Sorry. - (CK)Lakeshade  -  talk2me  - 20:01, 27 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry if it's getting redundant but it's because I am! I am innocnet actually stop treating me like I have done something wrong as I haven't. Yes I WAS a sock puppet but I have stopped when I got the chance to edit again I created a new account, nothing wrong with that! I did it to make a new start and show Wikipedia I am not a bad person. I have learned from my mistakes, how have I not? I haven't done anything wrong. I got blocked last time as I was not adding references - I am now! I'm doing everything right. I am keeping on this time as I have been blocked for no reason and I will not stop moaning as it is not needed. PD.Baker24 (talk) 08:20, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

If you look on the page Lakeside gave it says I was blocked for 9 months actually all together, so I have served that time for ages. Do you think I would just waste it by making another sock puppet? I have learned from my mistakes and I'm getting more annoyed by the minute having to explain something that doesn't need explaining! PD.Baker24 (talk) 08:23, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm not being rude, I am just asking could someone please update me with what is happening? Thanks PD.Baker24 (talk) 11:36, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to figure out if there's anything that I should do. First, your first block is still in force: Iluvrihanna24 is still blocked. The IP block for 6 months was not saying you could come back in 6 months, it was saying "Iluvrihanna24 is being such a problem, I'm going to make sure that no one edits from that IP for 6 months just to make him go away". You still aren't permitted to edit. Your edits since your return haven't been great, but, since you've been locked up in a conflict with Calvin999, it's hard to judge. I'm not inclined to unblock, but I haven't 100% decided, either.&mdash;Kww(talk) 11:42, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay thanks for getting back to me. Just before you make your decision I would just like to say I love editing Wikipedia and what I did with my old account was not good and immature of me and I'm sorry for that. I honestly was allowed to edit on July 23, 2011 but made a new account to make a fresh start and not be associated with the bad account anymore. I was only in a conflit with Calvin as he was throwing insults at me like "WTF" and was reverting my edits just when I added information like the one I added to Loud about Rihanna breaking a record with the tour. He also said my grammer was wrong which I do not think it was, but he spelt "fifty" wrong on the new edit he made anyway. I am not vandalising Wikipedia, I just like updating it with needed information. Before I was allowed to edit again there were loads of chart positions that needed updating but I couldn't as I was not allowed to edit. But I id edit them as soon as I made my new account after I had been allowed to edit again. And that is all I like doing. I love Wikipedia and have cleaned up my act from last time as you can see from my edits now. I add reliable sources and update information. Please do not block me again, I couldn't handle it. PD.Baker24 (talk) 14:43, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't drag me into getting yourself out of trouble. You clearly have no knowledge of how to edit on Wikipedia and follow MoS. If you did, then you clearly wouldn't be in this situation, would you. And I think it's so funny that you are bringing up that I spelt a word wrong! Saying "Wtf" is hardly an insult, I've had it said to me multiple times, you need to have bit more of a thicker skin than that. Calvin  &bull; 9 9 9  19:17, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

I know this may not decide your answer but I really feel I need to say it. I don't even know why I am pleading to be unblocked when I know that I was allowed to edit from July 23. Why would I go to all this effort if I was lying? I just gave up with iluvrihanna24, I am not this time as I have done nothing wrong and I am genuinely upset and shocked at being banned for no reason. PD.Baker24 (talk) 14:46, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * You may not be lying, but you are mistaken. At this point, you are not permitted to edit. The only way for you to be permitted to edit is for you to persuade me, or another admin, to lift the block on either this or the Iluvrihanna24 account. Until then, any edits that are traceable to you can be deleted, and any further accounts you make can be blocked.&mdash;Kww(talk) 20:05, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Fine, i've tried my hardest and do you know what? I'm not going to "persuade" you to because I know I am innocent and have done absolutel nothing wrong and think it is disgusting. At least try and catch the people making vandalisims. I'm not going to play tittle tat begging you to unban me - I know the truth. If you were to unblock me (which now seems is never going to happen) i dont want my old account as I made mistakes with that one, I'd like my new one as I have stated it was for a fresh start but obviously it doesn't count for anything here. I've been trying to plead my innocence for over 3 days now, when I have done nothing. Thanks a lot for the inconvenience! PD.Baker24 (talk) 13:22, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I cam onto Wikipedia to update and I can already see new updates ready to be made on the Man Down page where in the Chart performance section the positions for France and Switzerland still haven't been updated. And I've been banned for no reason when I could be editing that. THAT is what annoys me! PD.Baker24 (talk) 13:24, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

What is happening now?
Thanks for not responding to me in 3 days. I dont see why I should be all "nice guy" just to get my account back! I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG! How many times do I have to say???? PD.Baker24 (talk) 18:04, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No one is obliged to have to answer to you. At the end of the day, you're blocked, so.... Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na  C'mon!  18:41, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * What part of "You may not be lying, but you are mistaken. At this point, you are not permitted to edit. The only way for you to be permitted to edit is for you to persuade me, or another admin, to lift the block on either this or the Iluvrihanna24 account. Until then, any edits that are traceable to you can be deleted, and any further accounts you make can be blocked." did you fail to comprehend?. You said you don't want to do that, well if you don't then you remain blocked, its as simple as that. I cant explain this further. - (CK)Lakeshade  -  talk2me  - 20:02, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * But you are saying it as though I have to beg you to take me back when I have done nothing wrong in the first place! If you need me to persuade you what more can I do than say I was allowed to edit on July 23, 2011 and that is how I made a new account. How did I make another account then? I have waited 9 months to edit and now I'm banned from no reason. I honestly do not know what I can do to make you see I love to edit Wikipedia and you won't let me! WHAT MORE CAN I DO?!!! I'll do anything (even though I have done nothing WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) If I was guilty I would have just given up by now wouldn't I, why would I be here otherwise pleading my innocence!! I'm torn between 2 paths. I do want to be unblocked but on the other hand why should I prove my innocence when I am innocent and why do I need to beg you or "persuade" you to unblock me when I have done absouletely nothing wrong. I'll do anything you want me to do bu just please, please, please from the bottom of my heart unblock me and then you can see I have done nothing wrong. ;( PD.Baker24 (talk) 21:26, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't think you realise how upset I am about this. I literally waited ages and ages to edit and served my block time an then I get blocked for no reason and no one will do anything about it. FINE I'll beg because I am desperate even though I think it is disgraceful I have to as FOR THE LAST TIME I AM INNOCENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE LISTEN TO ME AND TAKE ME BACK. WHAT MORE CAN I DO? I AM CRYING RIGHT NOW I AM SO ANGRY AND UPSET!!!! PD.Baker24 (talk) 14:47, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Crying as i am so upset ;(

 * Loads of people have replied to you. And I think that the fact you are crying over being blocked from Wikipedia is a bit OTT. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na  C'mon!  16:06, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * What is OTT is being blocked for no reason whatsoever and then no one replying to me and ignoring me!! I am crying as I am so upset. Do you think if I knew about my block and was truly guilty I would be wasting my time doing this? You are talking to me now, imagine if you were just suddenly not allowed to edit. I am crushed and people have asked me to beg and I have and still no answer, when i BLOODY HAVE DONE NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PD.Baker24 (talk) 12:31, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Okay, this is my absolute last time explaining this to you. Everything i say you need to get through your head, whether you like it or not. You are not "innocent" you were indefinitely blocked on all past, present and future accounts; just because your IP block expired does not in any way shape or form mean that you were allowed to edit again, i do not know how many times that has been explained to you. Read Guide to appealing blocks and then fill out an unblock request or convince Kww to unblock you, your "im innocent boo-hoo" obviously isn't working, try a different tactic. There is a minimum level of competence that is expected if one is to edit an encyclopedia. Patience has been extended to you, guidance has been offered, but it has not been effective. The more you talk and talk and talk without grasping what you have done wrong, why you were blocked, and why you are still blocked is just further proving that you do not contain what is needed to edit. Calm down and read what i have said because I am now done responding unless someone else on this page has a question regarding this issue. Goodbye. - (CK)Lakeshade  -  talk2me  - 03:28, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

(Removed Personal attack) And with that, good luck getting unblocked :) Bye - (CK)Lakeshade  -  talk2me  - 15:58, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

DON'T YOU DARE PATRONIZE ME! LIKE YOU WERE GOING TO UNBLOCK ME ANYWAY! HYPOCRYTE SAYING YOU WOULDN'T RESPOND!

WELL DONE WIKIPEDIA YOU JUST BLOCKED AN INNOCENT USER FROM EDITING! THANKS A BUNCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At least i edit well, on the Rihanna Discography page it now says "Cheers (Drink to That" with no proper link!!!? And on the Man Down page it still says #2 for France! It should be called Slowcrapopedia