User talk:PK650/Archives/2020/January

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Ways to improve David R. Kaeli
Hello, PK650,

Thanks for creating David R. Kaeli! I edit here too, under the username Path slopu and it's nice to meet you :-)

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 PA TH  SL OP U  12:17, 11 August 2019 (UTC) Hi! Thanks for cotacting me about the article. Could you please elaborate what kind of copy edit the stub requires? I'm new here! Thanks again, PK650 (talk) 22:35, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Amparo Alonso Betanzos
Hello, PK650,

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username Hughesdarren and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I’ve proposed an article that you started, Amparo Alonso Betanzos, for deletion because it meets one of the relevant criterion. The particular issue can be located in the notice, that is now-visible at the top of the article.

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Hughesdarren (talk) 00:20, 15 September 2019 (UTC) I don't understand! She has thousands of citations. That alone would make her eligible under the first criterion. I thought Wikipedia encouraged the addition of female scientist biographies! PK650 (talk) 04:00, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Women in Red
Hi there, PK650, and welcome to Women in Red. As you are obviously interested in creating biographies of women, it looks as if you'll be a useful member of the project. If you haven't already done so, you might like to look through our Ten Simple Rules. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 06:55, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I look forward to working towards this goal. Thanks for the rules too! PK650 (talk) 01:39, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

October Events from Women in Red
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:36, 23 September 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging

hey
An article on Ms Russell, sure. But the second half of the article doesn't really pertain to her, does it? (If it does, you haven't shown that.) DS (talk) 06:07, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * DS: I'm sorry? I disagree completely. It establishes very clearly why her work was ultimately important to suffragism both locally and nationally. Perhaps the language used in the article could be improved, but the sources are quite solid in this regard. It is quite an issue when it comes to 110 yo bios. I took the liberty to slightly tweak the article to better mark her influence. I'd love to hear your thought on this. Thanks! PK650 (talk) 21:26, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The problem is that you have two paragraphs about the Everett Suffrage Club before you mention that Russell was its president. Can you provide any more information about her activities specifically pertaining to the club? DS (talk) 23:42, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * It's in the lede, in case you missed it. As club president she obviously managed the club and its activities. There are no sources I could find pertaining to such minutiae. Removing information about the club itself (by the way it would probably be difficult to make a stand-alone article about that, so it's best to keep it in this context as it adds vital information) would make her her article a rather useless stub considering her noted role in WA's suffragism movement. I'll ask my colleagues at WiR to see what they think, as they're more knowledgeable given they're actually running this initiative. PK650 (talk) 11:11, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Andrea Frome
Hello, PK650

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username Meeanaya and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, Andrea Frome, should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Andrea Frome.

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Nomination of Rama Akkiraju for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Rama Akkiraju is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Rama Akkiraju until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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I have sent you a note about a page you started
Hello, PK650

Thank you for creating Dorothy McEwen Kildall.

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Abishe (talk) 07:50, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the encouragement! PK650 (talk) 22:34, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

December events with WIR
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:44, 25 November 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Ways to improve Eleazar Eskin
Hello, PK650,

Thank you for creating Eleazar Eskin.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

"The article needs more sources, especially sources that are independent of the subject."

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Jmertel23 (talk) 20:47, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

IP block exemption request

 * I did not use the Unblock Ticket Request System because I do not have an email address associated with my account. Can I still do so despite that fact? Thank you, PK650 (talk) 07:22, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

COI user warning template
Hi ! Next time you find a COI, it is advisable to post Uw-coi template to the user talk page to give a chance for proper compliance before reporting to WP:COIN. Best, --MarioGom (talk) 01:05, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Also for cases when the username is a company name, you can directly use Uw-coi-username and the user will be quickly blocked. --MarioGom (talk) 01:08, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi! Thank you so much for the above! I am still learning the ropes around here. They are old edits, but I thought notifying the community was the proper thing to do. So company names are blocked until the user requests a name change? Best, PK650 (talk) 01:15, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, they are blocked and they can request a rename and unblock. But that rarely happens. They usually abandon the account and come back with new sockpuppet accounts. --MarioGom (talk) 01:25, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Excellent. Does that apply only for company names? Thanks again! PK650 (talk) 01:39, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Notability on Nero X
Hello, I believe the page about the musician falls under WIKI's criteria for musicians and ensembles.

It falls under criteria 2, 9 and 12. I think in future you will need to check these before you tag articles as not meeting Wiki's notability.

Any more comments should be on the talk page. Thanks

Kwamevaughan (talk)

February with Women in Red
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:31, 28 January 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging

January 2020
Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Gazecki. ''You're really crossing the line by accusing me of not reading the article before nominating, then demonstrating that you haven't read the nomination by repeating the same notability guidelines I cited in your replies. We can disagree without you being nasty, indeed that is what is required of you by policy.'' VQuakr (talk) 01:27, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you feel this way, but I think you're a) getting emotional over an AfD discussion, and b) making value judgements about my person and why/how I edit. I advise against both. Best, PK650 (talk) 03:20, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Nice non-apology. A quick review of the notice above reveals neither value judgments about you as a person nor speculation about why you edit. I have trouble imagining that an objective third party would describe a standard warning template as "getting all emotional", either. I suppose any reminder to follow WP's guidelines does literally constitute feedback about how you edit, but if that was a problem we probably wouldn't have developed warning templates. So I guess I can take your advice for as much as it's worth. VQuakr (talk) 03:29, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Could you be less vague and tell me what offended you so I take appropriate action? Best, PK650 (talk) 03:32, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Regarding the AGF violation? You don't have to do anything except interact better; it's just a notice. On the AfD, I'd appreciate if you have located sources that meet SIGCOV, you give your AfD !vote some weight by linking those rather thank links to coverage of a movie. So far you've provided bluster but haven't provided a rationale to keep the article, let alone justification for the SK accusation. Stuff like This is not the only AfD I'm currently participating in with the doubling down on your (bizarre) accusation of an emotional reaction isn't productive. VQuakr (talk) 03:52, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Ooooh, so you believe saying WP:BEFORE was not performed is tantamount to not assuming good faith. I understand now. You are, I assure you, mistaken. Let me reiterate (and clear up): I did not assume anything apart from that which I stated backed up in the relevant notability guidelines. You unfortunately took it personally; one must often remind oneself that posts on Wikipedia don't usually reflect speech, assumptions of tone can therefore be misleading. We all make mistakes while reviewing, and I include myself for not making myself clear. As for this case, as I've pointed out: 4 Emmy + an Oscar noms should be proof of notability enough for any sensible person. Sources do exist, but I definitely wouldn't delete the article because they're not reflected in-article fully. Best, PK650 (talk) 04:27, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Statement from Wgazecki
I don't know who you are, but THANK YOU for standing up for me. What is with these people? I've been involved in major media production since 1976! And how they repeatedly dismiss the research and verifiable data you present is very difficult to accept as anything but willful harm. William Gazecki 00:31, 31 January 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wgazecki (talk • contribs)

I recently received an email indicating there is a potential current Conflict of Interest with respect to the editing of the William Gazecki article. The reference provided was: 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 This has become quite a mess. I am William Gazecki, and I stopped editing the William Gazecki article last year after Wiki Editor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:VQuakr deleted almost the entire page. Which apparently he had the legitimate option to do, EXCEPT that he/she did it in such a manner that there was NO WAY TO UNDO what was done. This Editor left NO way to assess whatever it was they considered outside the realm of Wikipedia standards, thus eliminating any opportunity to correct said issues. Which I consider an egregious over-stepping of editorial authority. Such actions demonstrate a form of one-sided control which as I understand it is NOT what Wikipedia is meant to foster. That said, in that interaction with VQuakr, I began to learn the policies regarding living persons, etc. I have stayed away from all of this ever since. As I said at the time, I would like nothing more than any account of my life and career to be accurate and unbiased, and to fall WITHIN Wikipedia guidelines.

Also, in trying to get a comprehensive assessment of all this, by following the various links and entries (many of which I don't understand), I have read a number of completely inappropriate comments about how the page was "sprawling", and nothing more than a "promotional CV". These comments are completely inappropriate and do not demonstrate any form of respect or even simple common courtesy. I am a notable individual in my profession, whose life story includes notable and historically worthy events and associations for over a period of almost 50 years. I am *not* a newbie. Many of these instances and examples are still NOT on the page (as noted here). One thing I do not understand about this also is that, rather than delete entries en masse (which keeps happening repeatedly by the SAME Wiki Editors), why not first ask for verification? The way this is being done appears to me to demonstrate some sort of unconscious double-standard, rather than real concern for adhering to policies beneficial to the majority. Which is what Wikipedia is for, yes? The double-standard I am referring to is the deletion of bona fide entries supposedly because they have not been "verified", except that once they have been deleted, no one could know whether they had been verifiable or not. In truth, most of the original entries that VQuakr initially deleted WERE VERIFIED. A few may not have been- but there were many that were properly notated and just deleted en masse. Which is just sloppy work, in my opinion. My first documentary film, "WACO: The Rules of Engagement", had its World Premiere at the Sundance Film Festival (1997), was nominated for an Academy Award (I took my parents to the Ceremony), and WON an Emmy Award. These are FACTS. They are not puffed up hyperbole or misleading empty assertion.

The entertainment industry as a whole is a highly specialized field, involving many aspects of art, higher education, technology and political and social history- especially when it involves major, theatrically released documentary films (which is what I make). It is an area of expertise and complex information that those outside of it often do not easily understand, and the original William Gazecki article- as it was developed over a multi-year period of careful entries- offered examples of relevant and unique historical points. And, for anyone who cares, I already have plenty of CVs and online career biographies- I have my own website, LinkedIn account, Facebook, etc. The William Gazecki article in Wikipedia is NOT a promotional opportunity in my estimation- it was initiated years ago when Wikipedia was first launched (BEFORE a lot of the current policies were even conceived let alone implemented), with the intention of adhering exactly to the intention of Wikipedia's creation: to provide verified documentation in areas of specialized and bona fide history that conventional historical accounts do not provide. For anyone who reads this and is interested, THIS is an existing article that serves as an ideal model and example of how the William Gazecki article should be formatted and articulated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Walker_(director) This is a documentary film Director like myself, and she and William Gazecki share very similar life stories. EXCEPT that William Gazecki- besides his accomplishments as a filmmaker, whose work represents many authentic and valuable social contributions, in addition has also been witness to- or a literal part of- several most notable events and/or processes which deserve notation in Wikipedia. These include the first public dissemination of information on Remote Viewing (a bona fide technique of psychic information collection used by US Army Intelligence); and the first film on Jacque Fresco, a renowned futurist whose viewpoints on social development have been studied by millions of young people. There are other examples, some in the field of analogue sound and video technology development. Suffice to say that a lot of work that was well-intended and earnestly entered into the Article is now lost. Hopefully there is a way to respect William Gazecki, again with this page as an ideal model: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Walker_(director) Thank you William Gazecki 01:21, 31 January 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wgazecki (talk • contribs)
 * Thank you for contacting me. I encourage you to participate in the deletion discussion here. Please sign your posts with ~ after them. Per Autobiography, you are right in pointing out one shouldn't edit one's own article, and indeed discussing these issues in a transparent manner is an ideal outcome. Regarding the above, I am sure VQuakr had the encyclopedia's best interests at heart. I am not entirely familiar with the page's history, but unverifiable information can and is removed from biographies of living people routinely. If you have supplementary sources, particularly print sources which are rather hard to obtain, I encourage you to provide them in the discussion proper. Regards, PK650 (talk) 02:04, 31 January 2020 (UTC)