User talk:PKM/17 July 2012-June 2013

Credo Reference Update & Survey (your opinion requested)
Credo Reference, who generously donated 400 free Credo 250 research accounts to Wikipedia editors over the past two years, has offered to expand the program to include 100 additional reference resources. Credo wants Wikipedia editors to select which resources they want most. So, we put together a quick survey to do that:


 * Link to Survey (should take between 5-10 minutes): http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/N8FQ6MM

It also asks some basic questions about what you like about the Credo program and what you might want to improve.

At this time only the initial 400 editors have accounts, but even if you do not have an account, you still might want to weigh in on which resources would be most valuable for the community (for example, through WikiProject Resource Exchange).

Also, if you have an account but no longer want to use it, please leave me a note so another editor can take your spot.

If you have any other questions or comments, drop by my talk page or email me at wikiocaasi@yahoo.com. Cheers! Ocaasit &#124; c 17:27, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Another question
Hey again PKM. The extention falling from the headdress along the side of the face of the sitter in this, is there a term for it, and am wondering if it ties the drawing to a range of yrs. Thanks once again. Ceoil (talk) 16:36, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Tks, I'm amazed you were able to find the exact source! The copy is very interesting and beautyful, thanks for the context.Ceoil (talk) 18:03, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi PKM
We are having another party - Want to come? This is multi-lingual! If you search through the GibraltarpediA images then we took one of the national costume in the museum with you in mind. Who is going to look after our pics? Victuallers (talk) 10:18, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

GLAM: Philadelphia Museum of Art update
Hi GLAM PMA folks! I wanted to update you about some recent events related to our fantastic Museum. I met Jessica Milby, PMA Collections Information Project Manager, at Wikimania in July. Jessica was looking for ways to improve articles on Wikipedia about the Museum and its artists/collections. We followed up a few weeks later at the Perelman Building in downtown Philadelphia where we discussed ways to increase participation in the GLAM/PMA project.
 * The first idea is to do some outreach to the GLAM:PMA project members, including mass messages updating you all about plans and, seeking feedback about new ideas, and hearing your thoughts about what's in the works.
 * The next step is a drive to improve the main Philadelphia Museum of Art article. The article is currently 'B-Class', but Jessica was confident that with the abundance of high quality sources about the Museum that it could be improved even further.  Jessica recommended this extensive source from the Museum's website.
 * Another idea that came out of the meeting was a project within the Museum to assess which PMA-related topics are missing articles on Wikipedia.
 * One of Jessica's ideas is to have the knowledgeable curators of the Museum provide recommended reading lists for PMA-related articles. That should be a great first step to guiding editors towards the information they need to expand and improve that content.
 * Also raised for discussion were some ideas about how to engage the broader community. There is interest in setting up a tour/edit-a-thon, but this remains in the preliminary stage.  Would you be interested in participating in such an event?
 * We have new stats! These 24 articles are all under the PMA project.  I compiled the last 90-day page views and then annualized the results.  PMA-related articles get almost 800,000 view per year!

It's exciting to have a partner in Jessica Milby and there should be a lot of good work coming out the collaboration within the next 3-6 months. Please stop by the GLAM/PMA project page and leave your thoughts. What ideas do you have? How can we move forward on the above projects? I Hope you're all well. Cheers! Ocaasi 19:05, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Burne-Jones's Hero
Missed this in the Christie's auction last May. Now in Commons. - PKM (talk) 02:04, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedian needed
Hey! I was wondering if you would like to help me teach people how to edit Wikipedia at the above edit-a-thon. I need some Wikipedians to help troubleshoot problems. I'll be leading the class, but when someone says "wait, I missed the part about how to make a section header", I need a person or two to run over and help them. Would you be willing to do this? Oh, and be excited about Wikipedia? :) Gas would be paid for! Wadewitz (talk) 17:18, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

1550-1600 in fashion
Hi PKM - I can have a go at this, but I am actually really not very expert on this era. While I have a basic knowledge/understanding of post-medieval fashion, I only really have wider knowledge of it from about 1600 onwards, and wouldn't presume to consider myself knowledgeable about fashion history in general until the late 17th century. While I am happy to keep tabs on the page if you think I can help, I'm afraid it's outside my area of knowledge so I can't really offer any authoritative input. Mabalu (talk) 16:58, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

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Ran into an interesting pic
Please notice the book with a large flower picture in it. No, it's not The Flower Book (Edward Burne-Jones) but it reminded me of the article, and I put in the pic in the Notes section. Feel free to remove it if you think it is not appropriate there.

Most importantly, the pic gave me reason to look at the article again, and it reminded me of how enjoyable it was to work on the article, and in general how enjoyable it was to work with you. If you ever want to get this up to Good or Featured article level, please do let me know.

Also, the pic is linked to an unfinished sandbox article on Georgiana Burne-Jones. I think that it might be worth finishing.

All the best,

Smallbones( smalltalk ) 17:26, 10 November 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, I took a serious look at the article and have a pretty good idea of what the problem is. The writing is wonderful, the coverage is complete, and it is single sourced.  The editor never wrote anything else.  In short plagiarism is likely. I propose the following: I paraphrase, reorder a bit, and probably remove about 20%.  This will likely make the article more pedestrian, and if I don't manage to remove them, I may mangle some of the fine points since I won't understand them. But at least the worst that could be said is that it is a close paraphrase (of a source I've never seen). I'll be done with this, working on the sandbox page, by Tuesday.  Then you do the same and it will likely not be considered plagiarism.
 * But what the article really needs is more than a single source, where I won't be able to help much. I can do an internet search, maybe borrow some sources from the Edward B-J article, but that might turn out to be only adding for the sake of addition. In short, it will only be a truly acceptable article if you can add expertise and sources.  BTW the link in the text  looks pretty good and along with the other in text link will provide some good pd pix.
 * I think it will work out ok, but we'd have to be careful. Let me know what you think.  Smallbones( smalltalk ) 14:38, 16 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll go ahead with the rewriting. It turns out there there are several online sources and pix, so I'll chop heavily and can probably add some reasonable stuff. Do write the sandbox author, but I don't see any ethical issues starting from where she left off, if a) the edit summary when the article is started says e.g. "Taken from sandbox" (linked) and b) we're comfortable with the truth or verifiability of the material (same as with any article we'd start).  All the best,  Smallbones( smalltalk ) 12:45, 17 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Not a whole lot of luck with it, may give it up. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 05:16, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Bravo, well done! Smallbones( smalltalk ) 03:15, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

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Portraiture of Elizabeth I of England
will no doubt show up on your watchlist. Check the history too, for today. All the best for the holidays, Johnbod (talk) 03:54, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

You might be interested in ...
writing articles on Burne-Jones's Hope, Golden Stairs, or even King C. and the Beggar Maid. It's all part of the GLAM/smarthistory project. They've got great videos on these artworks, we link where appropriate. You might even sign up for the project. I know, I'm always asking for something - but refuse me if you must, take your time and realize that stubs are ok to start with, and do have a good Christmas!

All the best,

Smallbones( smalltalk ) 16:29, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

PS - is there a good mid-winter artwork to send around to folks for Christmas and New Years?
 * Sounds and looks good!



Merry Christmas!

Smallbones( smalltalk ) 00:51, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

You're really going to town!
Thanks for all the work. I knew you would add something special to the GLAM/Smarthistory project!

Smallbones( smalltalk ) 04:46, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Help creating new GLAM WikiProject page
Hi there! I'm Chloe, a Reference Specialist at Gelman Library Special Collections. I'm somewhat new to Wikipedia and am working on creating a WikiProject page for the GWU Special Collections Research Center (SCRC). I've been in touch with several very helpful Wikipedians, including SarahStierch, who suggested I contact you re. creating tabs for our project page. Though I might need to take a step back and ask a more basic question - can I go about creating our project page as I would any article, or do I need special permission to create a page that is part of the GLAM/Projects? Any advice would be much appreciated, or if you could direct me somewhere where this sort of information already exists that would be awesome, too! (Also, I love your Hobbit quote, I'm currently rereading it and we just contributed to a university magazine story about the first edition Tolkiens we have here at the SCRC.) Cheers, Craub (talk) 16:47, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, re:box
It's not terribly ugly as it stands, and I'm sure somebody can find somebody who knows boxes! Your idea "We might try making a version of the external media template that has a thumbnail inside it" sounds best.

For now,,, sleep! Smallbones( smalltalk ) 05:11, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Textiles and fashion requested articles
Salutations! I've started a blitz on Requested articles/Arts and entertainment/Fashion, mainly creating redirects and turfing out some of the more bizarre suggestions and obvious spam (particular favourite suggestion: an article on adorable little girl hairdos as demonstrated on YouTube!). I've not been creating new articles at this point but might do so once the list is reduced to a more manageable size, although I did create a stub for Warp printing (aka chiné/pompadour taffeta) which I think might be up your alley and also expanded Shot silk - do feel free to offer a second opinion, as I addressed your concerns about the related sourcing in Taffeta. However, as a compromise, I've been checking on a lot of the terms in the Requested Articles list and where I've seen wider information available or found a definition, I've added a quick note to the article where the title's not obviously explanatory, ie "Albert crepe - 19th century mourning fabric" to give would-be creators a clue as to what something is. Anyway, I thought I might mention it just in case you spot any article suggestions/requests in the list you think look interesting - I saw a number of eighteenth century terms, such as baigneuse, which reminded me of you. Mabalu (talk) 12:45, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

San Diego Comic-Con International meetup proposal
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Meetup/LA/SDCC1. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:52, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

WP Fashion in the Signpost
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Fashion for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot (talk) 16:23, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

"New" Portrait of Elizabeth I
Here's a "new" portrait of Elizabeth I of England. Great backstory at Christie's. PKM (talk) 02:06, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Las Madrinas Ball for deletion
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