User talk:PKT/Archive 2019

GOCE 2018 Annual Report
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NPR Newsletter No.17


Hello ,


 * News
 * The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.


 * Discussions of interest
 * Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
 * db-blankdraft was merged into G13 (Discussion)
 * A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
 * There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.


 * Reminders
 * NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD  because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.


 * NPP Tools Report
 * Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
 * copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
 * The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.

Six Month Queue Data: Today – Low – 2393 High – 4828 Looking for inspiration? There are approximately 1000 female biographies to review. Stay up to date with even more news – subscribe to The Signpost.

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March GOCE newsletter
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Articles for deletion/Danny Lorraine
Remember that?

Yes, please do STOP thinking that Danny Lorraine is non-notable (he's not) and using Wikipedia to express your long-disproved thoughts. The 1 year "Dannyversary" of this pointless debate is coming up in a month. I do not support the profane, dirty-minded, and evil characters of South Park being honored and given their own Wikipedia articles. It is not funny and why can't major Martha Speaks characters have their own articles, and why can South Park characters have? If you say "Martha Speaks characters aren't notable", yeah right. Don't treat me with that garble which is never a good enough excuse. Why is South Park much more notable than Martha Speaks then? Give me the answer please. How does a child who poked Paris Hilton's vagina deserve a page on Wikipedia and lots of honor? This logic doesn't make any sense.

And stop removing the WikiProject Canada template from Talk:Danny Lorraine - he is Canadian and born in Winnipeg, Manitoba

And to top it all off, I hope this never gets reverted. 2407:7000:A2AB:D00:CCBC:262A:863E:CDB8 (talk) 07:43, 16 April 2019 (UTC)


 * I couldn't care less. It's a non-notable cartoon character.  It wasn't born in any geographic location, it was effectively "born" in the creator's head.  As for the edit to Danny, there's a lot of rubbish in that list, so it fits there, IMO.   PK  T (alk)  12:25, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

List of Canadian winners on the PGA and LPGA tours moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, List of Canadian winners on the PGA and LPGA tours, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:27, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi PKT, greetings. Just a note that stand alone lists do need sources just like any other articles - see Stand-alone lists. cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:29, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: List of Canadian winners on the PGA and LPGA tours has been accepted
 List of Canadian winners on the PGA and LPGA tours, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as List-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. If your account is more than four days old and you have made at least 10 edits you can create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer. Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:54, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the  [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_talk/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=List_of_Canadian_winners_on_the_PGA_and_LPGA_tours help desk] .
 * If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider.

NPR Newsletter No.18


Hello ,

, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:
 * WMF at work on NPP Improvements
 * Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
 * Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.

has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.
 * Reliable Sources for NPP

Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.
 * Backlog drive coming soon


 * News
 * Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.


 * Discussions of interest
 * A request for bot approval for a bot to patrol two kinds of redirects
 * There has been a lot discussion about Notability of Academics
 * What, if anything, would a SNG for Softball look like

Six Month Queue Data: Today – 7242 Low – 2393 High – 7250

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Proposed deletion of File:Ontsouthwaterloo.PNG


The file File:Ontsouthwaterloo.PNG has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "unused, low-res, no obvious use"

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the file's talk page.

Please consider addressing the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and files for discussion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion.

This bot DID NOT nominate any file(s) for deletion; please refer to the page history of each individual file for details. Thanks, FastilyBot (talk) 01:01, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

GOCE June newsletter
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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019


Hello ,

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important. Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR. The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever. NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so  you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations. Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for  the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging. Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway. School and academic holidays will begin soon in various places around the Western world. Be on the lookout for the usual increase in hoax, attack, and other junk pages.
 * WMF at work on NPP Improvements
 * QUALITY of REVIEWING
 * Backlog
 * Move to draft
 * Notifying users
 * PERM
 * Other news

Our next newsletter might be announcing details of a possible election for co-ordinators of NPR. If you think you have what it takes to micro manage NPR, take a look at New Page Review Coordinators - it's a job that requires a lot of time and dedication.

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You reverted my edit (addition of Franco-Provençal_language into See Also of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brantford
Hi. you said my addition was irrelevant, but I believe my addition is justified due to information in the section "Number of speakers" at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Proven%C3%A7al_language  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flagrant hysterical curious (talk • contribs) 19:57, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * To  Quoted from that article, "As of 2012 this community has dwindled to fewer than 50 daily speakers across three generations."  I don't see that as relevant to Brantford.  PK  T (alk)  01:33, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Flag of Georgia
Hi PKT - hope you don't mind a little nitpick, but I think you've got the wrong flag for Georgia on your main page - that's the flag of the country of Georgia, not the Flag of Georgia (U.S. state). Cheers! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:08, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh jeez, I ought to have known that! Thanks very much, it's fixed now!....  PK  T (alk)  16:22, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 * No biggie - you're welcome! --Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:27, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
Hello ,

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
 * Backlog

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.
 * Coordinator

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for  making  the occasional  mistake while  others can learn from  their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
 * This month's refresher course

Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.
 * Deletion tags

Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
 * Paid editing


 * Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
 * Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
 * Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.

Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent  enhancements to  the New Pages Feed and  features in the Curation  tool, and there are still more to  come. Due to the wealth  of information  now displayed by  ORES, reviewers are strongly  encouraged to  use the system now rather than Twinkle; it  will  also  correctly  populate the logs.
 * Not English
 * A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
 * Tools

Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.

Assessment: The script at User:Evad37/rater makes the addition of Wikiproject templates extremely easy. New page creators rarely do this. Reviewers are not obliged to make these edits but they only take a few seconds. They can use the Curation message system to let the creator know what they have done.

is now patrolling certain categories of uncontroversial redirects. Curious? Check out its patrol log.

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September 2019 GOCE Newsletter
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RE: Amy Fee
It was poorly referenced, yes - however, it is not defamatory in ANY way. It states she is alleged to have done. I studied law - this is a fair comment and is justified as she is currently alleged to have done those things. The only thing I did not do is cite my source. Other than that, I would ask that you refrain from stating my comments are possibly defamatory as the law - at least in Ontario allows for fair comment in tort law. AjayTO (talk) 14:26, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The point is that without a reference, it can be seen as defamatory. Wikipedia wants to be sticky about that - you might want to read through Biographies of living persons.   PK  T (alk)  14:29, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough. Thanks for the update. Cheers.

WikiProject Canada 10,000 Challenge third anniversary
The 10,000 Challenge of WikiProject Canada is approaching its third-anniversary. Please consider submitting any Canada-related articles you have created or improved since November 2016. Please try to ensure that all entries are sourced with formatted citations and have no unsourced claims.

You may use the above button to submit entries, or bookmark this link for convenience. For more information, please see WP:CAN10K. Thank-you, and please spread the word to those you know who might be interested in joining this effort to improve the quality of Canada-related articles. – Reidgreg (talk) 12:31, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter November 2019
Hello ,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon. There are now holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action. Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays. Want to join? Consider adding the NPP Pledge userbox. Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards. Admin has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers. Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources. Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13. The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights. There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion. To opt-out of future mailings, you can remove yourself here MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:33, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Getting the queue to 0
 * Coordinator
 * This month's refresher course
 * Tools
 * It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
 * It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
 * Reviewer Feedback
 * Second set of eyes
 * Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
 * Do be sure to have our talk page  on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.
 * Arbitration Committee
 * Community Wish list

Is it ok
if I go through the Ridings and add the stats? I am slowly crawling through them now. Thenumbersline (talk) 20:49, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Absolutely! Thank you for asking - the final vote counts *might* change in a few cases, but as long as the results tie to Election Canada's data as it stands, go for it!  Cheers,  PK  T (alk)  22:31, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Do you know when the official results come out? Also, do you know when the MPs get a writ of summons? Thenumbersline (talk) 02:11, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
 * No, not with any certainty. My understanding and recollection is that the results aren't Final until they're signed off by the appropriate official at Elections Canada, and that won't happen for at least a month.  I also believe that the vote counts won't change much in most cases - it's the recount situations that could change (of course), but they're few and far between. Regards,  PK  T (alk)  15:19, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I have tried finding more about the process on the Elections Canada site, but found nothing that would help.  PK T (alk)  15:40, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm gonna start copying the 2019 results (not marked as preliminary) to the candidates pages. Thenumbersline (talk) 19:25, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Good stuff! Go ahead with the "preliminary" ones, too, if the spirit moves you.  They will all be updated as more information becomes available (ie, campaign expenses), and it's easy to copy-and-paste from a riding's article to a candidate's.  By the way, do you know about how we sometimes use templates?   PK  T (alk)  19:54, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
 * How to do so? Thenumbersline (talk) 20:23, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
 * In some ridings' articles, all you're going to see for 2019 results is something like: .  That's because somebody has created a separate file, a template, that is referenced the same way by the riding's article as well as the linked candidates.  In this case, the template can be found at "template:Canadian federal election, 2019/Longueuil—Saint-Hubert" .  PK  T (alk)  20:28, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Captaincy speculation
Do you think that belongs at all, and if so, should it be moved into the “Season” section as it does not have to do with his personal life? –xenotalk 14:55, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Good question, . You know what - I think it follows from the 'incident', so I don't mind it being there, since it's referenced.  It could be worded somewhat better, though.  PK  T (alk)  15:23, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Feel free, it’s become a bit contorted thru brevity. Thanks for the input! –<b style="font-family:verdana;color:#000">xeno</b><sup style="color:#000">talk 16:01, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

GOCE December 2019 Newsletter
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New Page Review newsletter December 2019


This year's Reviewer of the Year is. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.
 * Reviewer of the Year

Special commendation again goes to who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to and  who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by.
 * Redirect autopatrol

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.
 * Source Guide Discussion

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag. Delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 16:11, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * This month's refresher course

Niagara Square (mall)
You accessed the article as start-class on the talk page. Earlier, I had added it into a stub category. I'm the original article creator if that's revelant. Should I remove the stub category since you accessed the article as start-class? Clover moss (talk) 20:47, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello ! In view that the mall area is being redeveloped, and that the article has 7 references at the moment, I think it qualifies for start class.  I hadn't noticed that stub-class category, and have now removed it from the article.  Cheers,  PK  T (alk)  21:37, 27 December 2019 (UTC)