User talk:PKooij

edits on fungus growing ants
hi! i appreciate the updates on the Fungus-growing ants page (it's been my favorite project for a while!) :) i do have some comments about the edits on the genera. i haven't looked through all those that were removed, but Allomerus and Acanthognathus definitely grow fungus 1 2. i think the page is kind of confusing because attini and fungus growing ants is the same page, so even genera that may not farm fungus still go on the page. so i'm going to add those genera back because they are attini. however i really like the idea of making notes on any genera in attini that don't farm fungus a lot! i would love it if you helped with that and anything else you think could improve the page!! Sbbarker19 (talk) 16:42, 10 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Sbbarker19 Thanks for your message. Acanthognathus doesn't seem to grow fungus, at least, there is no mention of that in the paper you cited here. This is a genus that hunts for collembola, so they are actually carnivorous. Regarding the Allomerus, they indeed do grow fungus, however, this is not for food in the sense as any of the other fungus-growing ants. I think it would be best to leave all these and other non-fungus-growing ant species from the page, especially, because at the top it refers to the subtribe Attina. This subtribe only have the other genera as can be seen in your second reference 2.
 * In my opinion it would be best to create a separate page for Attini in general and then refer to this page where it will focus on the Attina. Let me know what you think :) PKooij (talk) 14:41, 11 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Oops i misread that paper! I really like the idea of separating Attini and Fungus-growing ants for clarity a lot! I think the ants that grow fungus but don't eat it still have a place on the Fungus-growing ants page, since they are still growing and farming fungus, but i think their purposes should be clarified. plus it would make for a super interesting expansion! the nesting in Attini is confusing because the clade and tribe's names are often used interchangeably. I found a source that may help the page-splitting process here. i haven't found any sources explaining the subtribe attina or what species it consists of (that's been on the article since way before i adopted it).
 * i think splitting the page may look like a page for Attini (clade) containing genera: "Allomerus, Anisopheidole, Blepharidatta, Cephalotes, Diaphoromyrma, Lachnomyrmex, Lenomyrmex, Machomyrma, Ochetomyrmex, Pheidole, Procryptocerus, Tranopelta and Wasmannia" and tribes: Attini (tribe), Basicerotini, Dacetini and Phalacromyrmecini with the tribe Attini's page containing its genera of course (but i am still looking for a list of those). the tribe attini article may be the same page as the fungus-growing ants one, based on the explanation for the subtribe attina we find. what do you think? (ps i am still so exited somebody else is interested in improving this page!!!) :D Sbbarker19 (talk) 15:44, 11 July 2019 (UTC)