User talk:PRehse/Archive 4

Greetings
Hello PRehse, good to see you back! Janggeom (talk) 11:03, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Aikido Styles
Hello,

I'll make stubs as soon as I get the chance. I'm assuming you're referring to Yamaguchi and Homma. I'm surprised they don't have pages already!

Also...there are some dubious styles there, but I hesitated to delete them myself. I don't know what the criterion is for inclusion. Rufe (talk) 03:45, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

"dubious styles"
The styles I put under "Other organizations" are more minor, though they are organizations and some are possibly as notable as the nippon-kan. I wonder if there shouldn't be a separate page like "list of aikido organizations" in which these and others like the ASU and USAF can be included. Rufe (talk) 04:41, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Welcome back!
Nice to see you back - are you on vacation? jmcw (talk) 16:29, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Good to have you back - and I understand the need to prioritize time. jmcw (talk) 07:06, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll second the welcome back :) - on the Ki/Qi thing, It's an endless debate with no simple answer, my thinking was that having it the same as the link to the article kept it simpler, I changed it mainly as a revert because the link was broken.. -Natet/c 10:55, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
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Nomination of Moni_Aizik for deletion
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I added new sources which proves that our competitor lies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noam.kamil (talk • contribs) 19:07, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

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Morihiro Saito Sensei page
Dear sir,

Regarding the changes made below, with whom was this "consensus" made please? This seems unnecessarily, very limiting. some time ago someone did a very nice unbiased list, by country in alphabetical order, of notable students above fouth dan (including many live in students who studied under Saito Sensei for years), that allowed readers to find Saito sensei's legacy around the world. I think that was a better layout?

Morihiro Saito Revision as of 01:58, 30 April 2012 (edit) (consensus was to limit to 6thDan and up - 4th Dan is definately not senior - not an exhaustive list of all students.)

Regards Saeed Zane — Preceding unsigned comment added by Szane67 (talk • contribs) 19:19, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Your revert in Aikido
The worldwide it's know about Aikido every 4 years for the World Games, why for you THE FACT that the Aikido is in the "World Games Program" was be CENSORED? Why, you CUT this Template:Sports of the World Games program in below? --Kasper2006 (talk) 06:43, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Re: Shinkendo in Japanese Martial Arts
Sir,

Yesterday, you deleted my addition of Shinkendo to the Japanese Martial Arts page.

--ShinkendoMain article: Shinkendo Shinkendo (真剣道, 眞劍道, Shinkendō?), is a Gendai Budo (modern martial art style) developed by Toshishiro Obata[6], combining elements of koryu kenjutsu (traditional combative sword technique), iai battojutsu (sword drawing techniques) and tameshigiri (test cutting) into a comprehensive system of japanese swordsmanship[7].--

Your note stated: "good faith edit but really Shinkendo is new and minor. It is in the List of Japanese martial arts but should not be here"

I disagree with your assertions- Note that:
 * 1) I dispute that "minor" arts should be excluded from listing on this page
 * 2) I further dispute your inclusion of Shinkendo as a "minor art" (There are currently 87 dojos teaching Shinkendo in 17 countries)
 * 3) I dispute that "new" is a disqualification. "gendai" means "new" (as a contrast with Koryu Arts). Is there some other standard you are applying? a cutoff year?
 * Sojutsu gets it's own entry in Koryu arts, despite a notation of it's "minor"* status.

(*which, as noted, I believe to be irrelevant. The page is not titled "major japanese martial arts".)
 * Kyudo also gets it's own entry in Gendai arts, despite it's relatively selective membership.

I do not object to listing the arts in a different order, by relative popularity, alphabetically, or even by founding date (any of which would put Shinkendo near or at the bottom of this list).

But completely excluding the entry seems inconsistent with the purpose of the page.

Do you have any particular reason for your categorization, and further, for deleting my (rather spartan) addition wholesale?

Best regards,

M3michaelmason (talk) 19:05, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

UPDATE- 8 days since I posted this, you have not responded other than to add a link to the "list" page. If that is the totality of your response, please verify here. If I don't hear back within the week, I will be reinstating my edit.

Best Regards,

--M3michaelmason (talk) 17:29, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

UPDATE- (sorry, this interface is a bit clunky, there may have been a smoother way to reply to your message) - Thank you for your response. I agree that a "other gendai arts" section might be helpful in resolving this. While we continue to disagree about the relative importance of Shinkendo, I understand your viewpoint and appreciate your taking the time. Best Regards,

--M3michaelmason (talk) 19:14, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Bronwyn Wilson and olympics and notability
Hi, I removed the notability tag that you added to Bronwyn Wilson - per WP:NOLYMPICS anyone who has competed in the olympics is considered notable, and we have sources that indicate that she did. If those sources are not reliable or if you contest that demonstration level olympics are not notable please join the discussion on the talk page. -- The Red Pen of Doom  02:48, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for taking so long to give you a response, I have been waiting until today to speak with Joe Thambu as he requested some input on the page, I made some notes and will be doing the changes within the next couple of days, I have uploaded my notes as PDF to Issuu and will reference this as a book (I believe this is the best way to reference this but I am unsure if there is a better way to reference a one on one conversation (admittedly there was 3 of us there but this is negligible)) the sort of things he had input on were ensuring sensei and Kancho were used, the changing of a few words and the ordering of japanese names, such as Shioda Gozo instead of Gozo Shioda, also always referring to his uncle by both names as they are not separate names, he described it like a double barrelled name. Hope to here from you soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheKleener (talk • contribs) 19:27, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Shudokan/Joe Thambu
Sorry for taking so long to give you a response, I have been waiting until today to speak with Joe Thambu as he requested some input on the page, I made some notes and will be doing the changes within the next couple of days, I have uploaded my notes as PDF to Issuu and will reference this as a book (I believe this is the best way to reference this but I am unsure if there is a better way to reference a one on one conversation (admittedly there was 3 of us there but this is negligible)) the sort of things he had input on were ensuring sensei and Kancho were used, the changing of a few words and the ordering of japanese names, such as Shioda Gozo instead of Gozo Shioda, also always referring to his uncle by both names as they are not separate names, he described it like a double barrelled name. I also left a message on the Shudokan page talk. Hope to here from you soon. TheKleener (talk) 19:32, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Goshin-Ryu Kempo
Hello. I'm afraid I've declined your WP:PROD on Goshin-Ryu Kempo because PRODs can't be used for redirects. If you'd like to pursue the deletion, I'd suggest listing the page at Redirects for discussion. Cheers, Whouk (talk) 12:06, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Peter. No, as it's a redirect, it should go to RfD rather than AfD. Whouk (talk) 12:33, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Taekkyeon
Hi Peter, my name is seth. As a new editior on wikipedia there is much for me to learn. Thank you for the advice. It appears that you have a deep interest in Japanese martial arts is this true? As you know, Korean and Japanese relations is controversial. China too. In reality, much of Korean history has been earsed due to war. That doesn't mean they don't have a rich artistic culture that spread to Japan, back to China and Mongolia. Thank you for the revisions on my articles, i will continue to bring to light the truth of Korean martial history and its place in asian culture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carverrock (talk • contribs) 16:32, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello, yes I agree Subak and Taekkyeon should be merged. Grandmaster Ko Yong Woo is the inheritor of the complete Taekkyeon system from Song Duk Ki. Gm Ko says that the two are the same, but he doesn't know why the named changed or when. If anyone knows he should, unless some historical document surfaces to counter or affirm that claim. He is my teacher and yes I am biased now. Although I have traveled quite a bit and studied Martial arts for nearly 20years, The Taekkyeon system is very deep and its basics or more advanced than any other that I have seen. Maybe in ten years their will be Widea Taekkyeon Tournaments again. It will be an exciting spectator sport.

There are other controversial claims by the Korean people, that I am ommiting to include. Mary Hamilton Collins translated a Taekkyeon "introduction guide" ISBN 89-89587-06-9. On page 57 it says, that the orgin of Japanese martial arts was called Tegoi." It was at the time the founder of the establishment of Japan Niniginomikoto (seven princes of King Kimsuro in Kaya kingdom) arrived in Shindo Port Kyushu (japan) after he finished his last spiritual disciplin in Cheel Bul Am Temple in Jiri Mountain. They say that the History of Tegoi dates back to the 56th emperor Seiwa. It is recorded on the Seiwa family tree, Genji secretly handed down Tegoi.

Tegoi became the japanese pronunciation of Taekkyeon. Tegoi became known as Yawara two hundred years ago, Yawara was replaced with Jujitsu, daitu ryu, et al.

My feeling on the whole subject is that Mongolia started the whole thing over 2000 years ago. Then with the Khans conquest of Asia 1200-1400ad many peoples left the continent to live safely in Japan (koreans and chinese). In the book Guns Germs and Steel, the recent revision, the auther has a facinating chapter on Korean Farmers moving into southern Japan, which forced the Ainu people North. Mongolia also establish Tibet (another story, that the Chinese don't want to hear).

Who really cares except for us Martial art Geeks?? Good techniques are what is important. Japan, Korea, China, Mongolia. They were all in bed together. Considering Sun Tzu was writing the art of war in the 6 century BCE, i believe that is grounds for established martial art styles in that time. Not only China, but spread out. However, the original martial arts kept a tradition and can still be found in some Traditional styles. Upstarts have always learned partial systems then passed themselves off as Masters. Such forms have thrived while complete systems have stayed isolated from mass education.

My hope is that Widea Taekkyeon can bring to light once more the grace and power of traditional martial arts (in a MMA world) and that other martial arts that have stayed in the shadows will emerge as well for the populace to enjoy. your martial-art friend, s — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carverrock (talk • contribs) 20:38, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello, nice to meet you. I have edited https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Taekkyeon#Subak_is_Taekkyeon. Do you both agree? Regards, --Hyeondo (talk) 19:55, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

UCMMA
I've added some useful information onto the UCMMA, including some useful stuff about Ultimate Ball, as well as mentioning that UCMMA were featured on a BBC One programme. Now the reason that I'm binging this up with you is because I would like to get your opinion about how much more could be added onto the page to solidify the promotion's notability. Pound4Pound (talk) 11:38, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

These are some good points, some of which I've already added, whilst I am looking into any sources that can verify one or two of the points you made.

Now I appreciate your opinion, as it is always necessary to take the advice from others to improve on something you been working on your own with, so that is why I am taking this seriously and hope that you will help support it's position on Wikipedia once it does go to AfD. I would like you to point out from the start of the AfD that the page is much better sourced than the previous version that was deleted, as we know how users would probably use history as an excuse to repeat a 'delete' vote rather than actually take the time to look through the page in detail to see that UCMMA indeed is a notable promotion.

One last thing as well, do you think it is worth adding in some information about mainstream shows/articles that current and former UCMMA fighters have been on? only asking because I know some great sources out there on them and if their relationship with the promotion counts towards notability then that can only strengthen a case to keep the page. Pound4Pound (talk) 09:18, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I wouldn't say no to breaking down the notable fighters between who fought for top tier promotions and those who are just notable. The Cage Rage page does something similar so I guess that it couldn't do it, I will work on this right now then. The comparison to BAMMA is un-necessary for no other promotion on wikipedia does anything like this, to UK MMA fans as well as other parts of the world, everyone knows UCMMA, Cage Warriors and BAMMA are all considered the top three promotions in the UK.

I am happy enough to leave it be for the time being, I know that you seem very happy with the overall change with the UCMMA page now so I guess that avoiding the AfD until someone else brings it up is the best solution. Pound4Pound (talk) 16:08, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

KSW prod
Rather than prodding this one, how about AfDing all of Template:KSW Events? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:42, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

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Iain Martell Afd
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Explosion Fight Night
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Thanks for your guidance on Alan Ruddock entry..follow up question
Dear PRehse,

Many thanks for your input on Alan Ruddock entry regarding title usage, I'm new to WikiP but understand & agree the edits make sense- with one caveat: three of the alterations are to direct quotes i.e. Ruddock was speaking about the Aikido Founder & described him as O-Sensei ( as opposed to Ueshiba)... > I'd surmise that it may be appropriate to leave (just those three) changes as per original text? I'm happy to defer to your expertise- please let me know,

cheers 68.39.178.193 (talk) 17:57, 5 October 2012 (UTC) ( sorry just realized I wasn't logged in on above Ruddock comment!)NortSide505 (talk) 17:59, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

>>I think the article is pretty good although in my opinion it has a bit too much of an essay feel rather than an encyclopedia article and perhaps unjustly that parts were copied from somewhere else. Not really sure how to change it (so dont worry about it). The only thing keeping it from a B class is that and the need for a few more citations.Peter Rehse (talk) 03:10, 6 October 2012 (UTC) >>

Thanks for the feedback, this is only my 2nd WikiP entry & I'm still learning the ropes... the only thing I'd say is that anything 'copied from elsewhere' is clearly formatted as such & referenced ( in addition to which express permission for all such information's use on WikiP was  obtained in advance)! I am hoping to receive extra citations in the near future. Understand it's not a major concern, but when you say "unjustly" do you mean that it appears to have been lifted without permission/ it's an inappropriate use (stylistically) of such material ..or something else? . Appreciate all your insights, cheersNortSide505 (talk) 04:18, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

The best coach
Hi Peter, this page was created to expose a little bit about one of te best MMA/BJJ coaches in the world! This text was created by a group of students from Brazil called LLJJ TEAM! He is very famous especially in Brazil but he is also very famous here in USA among the MMA athletes! Despite of his age he has done a lot for MMA! We'll keep editing his page and putting all the references necessaries!

LLJJ TEAM USA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.160.230.247 (talk) 04:35, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
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David Seiwert Biography
This is is Kung Fu Resources, writer of the article on David Seiwert. Here in Wikipedia unfortunately there are fans of deletion, why？Honestly speaking it is really discouraging. I want to make you sure that I am not the subject of the biography. Just wanted to make a modest contribution to modern history of martial arts. Well, an article should start from somewhere. With your same energy for deletion, if you contribute positively then it may be even a good article in your personal standards. Honestly I will not move even a single hair for this biography. Do whatever you want, but do not forget you will always be remembered as a destructive person，Best Regards. Kung Fu Resources (talk) 08:43, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Abel Trujillo
I see you put a notability tag on this recently created article. I think the subject passes WP:MMANOT, because he has had three scheduled fights in the UFC, althought he only fought once (a TKO victory). Given that I have nominated it to DYK, I ask you to retire the tag. Regards. --LlamaAl (talk) 14:48, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

MMA Event Notability
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Barry Cook is back
Since I'm going on a wiki break, I thought I'd give you a heads up that the Barry Cook article has been recreated and is currently waiting for a review (see User:Hjc2012/Barry Cook). You may remember that discussion at the martial arts talk page from this summer about him and his art--where they keep pulling the article in the middle of AfD discussions. Papaursa (talk) 00:52, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Repost of 2012 in UFC
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Mike Ricci can be kept, I found a way.
He has fought for a title in a top tier organization, and that title is "TUF 16 winner". JonnyBonesJones (talk) 01:52, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Greetings
Greetings,

I edited a page, and you changed it back. My information came from a Ranking Member of American Jujitsu and a Ranking Member of Australia Martial Arts (Chris Parker). It is confirmed information. The individuals name Krista Jacobson used to be Chris Brooks. None on my contacts who have contacts in Japan can find any of her Dojos in Japan.

I understand you are well versed in the subject matter or Martial Arts, so am I. I am also well versed in History of Warrior Societies. She is claiming things that do not link up with History.

Is there a better way that it should have been edited on my part?

Berzerker — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berzerker1982 (talk • contribs) 02:38, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

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Styles of silat
Based on the just closed AfD discussion, it looks like converting the article into a list was the most preferred option. Since it was your idea, I'll let you have the honor of converting it. Papaursa (talk) 18:48, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Kendo
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April 2013
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Re - International Aiki Peace Week - worth keeping
Peter - On April 21, you wrote: "Non-notable, as an event does not really exist other than as an idea. Even the organization that promotes it is non-notable." in reference to International Aiki Peace Week, on a page discussing whether the page devoted to that event should be deleted.

I humbly disagree with both assertions. In its first year (2010), International Aiki Peace Week started as an idea, but almost 350 dojos, from 43 countries, found their way to our website and signed up as participants. All without paid advertising of any kind. In May of 2010, Yamada Shihan of USAF endorsed the project in his organizations newsletter (see http://archive.usafaikidonews.com/2010/2/index.shtml). A Google search currently turns up 14,200 hits for the phrase "International Aiki Peace Week". While several of those are obviously associated with the event website and the website of Aiki Extensions, the sponsoring nonprofit, more than 14,000 of those are websites we are not responsible for. Many, not surprisingly, are the websites of independent dojos who are promoting their participation in the event and seeking to identify their dojo with the idea that Aikido, the Way of Peace, belongs in the world conversation about how to reduce violence in our hearts, our families, our communities, our countries, and our world. Given OSensei's unambiguous declaration that "Aiki is not a set of techniques to overcome an enemy, but a way of reconciling the world and making all of humankind one family" (various translations of this phrase are available), the idea behind International Aiki Peace Week seems to be exactly the sort of thing OSensei would have wanted more of us engaged with.

As for Aiki Extensions - we're a 15 year old registered 501c3 non-profit founded by a dean at the University of Chicago which supports programs like International Aiki Peace Week, The PeaceCamp Initiative, Training Across Borders, Peace Dojos International, The Awassa Peace Dojo, and Aikido in the Schools, seek to bring the principles of Aikido out of the dojo and into the world. We have more than 100 dues-paying member individuals all over the world, and about 25 member dojos. We put on conferences (last year in Belgium and Virginia, this year in Germany and California), we collected thousands of dollars for Japanese earthquake relief, put out a monthly newsletter with a circulation of more than 1,000 opt-in addressees, and in general do the best we can as a virtually all-volunteer organization.

Please forgive my lack of familiarity with Wikipedia procedures, which I am sure will show themselves as I try to save the page in question. I'd appreciate any suggestions as to how best to do this.

Yours,

RobertKent2013 (talk) 05:36, 25 April 2013 (UTC)Robert Kent, President, Aiki Extensions

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Re: Robert mustard article
Thanks PRehse I'm new to wiki -as a contributor- and i thought it would be far simpler to set up and article. your suggestions are welcome. I have to references because I know Robert Mustard personally and the whole article was built from a long interview i conducted with him 2-3 years back. Please let me know how can I improve it.. helloayman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helloayman (talk • contribs) 14:00, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Advice taken. As for Kimeda's Sensei (senior) he was Mustard's first instructor and Mustard was Michael Kimeda's senshusei instructor. He is also a personal friend of RM as you may know. I shall consider that. 109.154.128.116 (talk) 15:43, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Dong Jin Kim
Peter, Thank you for doing the merge. Just curious, how long until the AFD for Dong Jin Kim is closed? Its been about 10 days? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emery80 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

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I am writing to confirm that what I have written on Buah pukul is not from assumption or any false information. All the information I have given are from a timeline given to all lineage in the Buah pukul martial arts. My intention was to write on wiki to show people the truth of the art without any additions and variations. The art has been changed so much in the last generation that hardly anybody carry the correct information about Buah pukul, my teacher (Guru Sulieman Arifin aka Mat Samurai) is the highest rank in Buah pukul after the passing away of Pak Mat Keddidi & Pak Atan.

Please confirm what you require for me to prove that my claim is correct.

kind regards

Manto Chin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.142.1.157 (talk) 12:45, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

The article was edited to bring it in line with Wikipedia guildlines and remove the copy violation. This was done in a way not to remove any of the essential information. Yet you keep reverting the article to the problem version - that is what triggered the AfD nomination. The solution is to return to the clean, non-copy violated version and note that in the AfD. Notability will still need to be proven and that requires references other than group websites, blogs and Youtube.Peter Rehse (talk) 13:03, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Translation of 2 article.
Hello. Could you translate the following articles in Dutch, please ? Or could you find somoebody to translate them ?

Articles to translate in Dutch :
 * Norwegian Judo Federation (Noorse Judobond)
 * Norwegian Bridge Federation (Noorse Bridgebond)

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Yeon Hwan Park revisions
Thanks for your comments. Made some changes to Yeon Hwan Park submission. Please let me know your thoughts. Marc — Preceding unsigned comment added by ALLNP (talk • contribs) 12:00, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Yeon Hwan Park revisions 2
Thanks. I am continuing to make more objective and include specific information rather than bold statements. I will add to the list of TKD Masters as well. Comments appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ALLNP (talk • contribs) 12:25, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Yeon Hwan Park Revisions 3
How can I add Master Park in that List format for the Grandmasters? I keep messing up the entire format? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ALLNP (talk • contribs) 13:04, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

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Thank youALLNP 13:30, 26 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ALLNP (talk • contribs)

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I have updated description. Let me know any other changes you suggest. Much appreciated.ALLNP 14:01, 26 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ALLNP (talk • contribs)

C Status & Photo
Peter,

I appreciate the feedback. Can you explain what "C" Status means? Excuse my ignorance and I have photos of Park which i own the rights to so I could choose one. Better to have a Bio or action shot?ALLNP 13:50, 28 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ALLNP (talk • contribs)

Park Revisions
What else can I do to make it stronger? More Citations? More info? More Dates? Change of some language?ALLNP 13:56, 28 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ALLNP (talk • contribs)

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ranini cundasawmy
hello i got an article which had a deletion notice. can somebody help about this issue please, our english is not so good so a little bit difficult to understand and apply the guidelines, on behalf of ranini thanks a lot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wawapat (talk • contribs) 18:42, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

About the talk segment sent to me...
That is something nobody told me about before. But, no one stopped the many Wikipedia editors from adding the various empty results section for London 2012's various sports. At least, that is what appears to me then. Anyway, thanks for not totally erase Muay topic completely. As for the other sports details, I have temporarily blanked the sections, leaving only the preamble at the top of each sports' pages for now. Rockies77 (talk) 04:48, 13 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, I am a novice, when it comes to making new pages. There are so many rules to remember in this case that I would break some of them. I looked at the same scenario with another international sporting event page and found out the rules of not creating "the crystal ball." Anyway, thanks again for pointing this out. Rockies77 (talk) 23:40, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Morihei Ueshiba
Hi Peter. Thanks for catching my accidental category duplications. It's pleasingly serendipitous that it was you who fixed it, since I was planning on dropping you a note about it anyway... I've been ill recently, and used my time in bed to catch up on my aikido reading. In doing so, it occurred to me that there's more than enough information on O-Sensei's life and work to warrant a Featured Article here on Wikipedia, so I copied the page to a sandbox to do some work on it. I'm planning to go through section-by-section, expanding and sourcing each part in the sandbox before making changes to the live article. As one of our preeminent contributors to aikido-related articles, I wondered whether you'd be interested in joining me in this project; I could certainly use the help! Let me know if the idea appeals. All the best, Yunshui 雲 ‍ 水  10:13, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Tate vs Rousey
Thanks for assessing Miesha Tate vs. Ronda Rousey. What might you recommend moving forward? -- James26 (talk) 06:05, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Nice of you to say that. I, myself, thought it was around C-class, but I suspected that could've been my ego talking. :) Thanks. -- James26 (talk) 08:47, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Hidy Ochiai AfD
I don't think you completed the Hidy Ochiai nomination--the link at Hidy Ochiai goes to the Washin-ryu deletion discussion page and I can't find one for Hidy Ochiai. JJL (talk) 17:44, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Ranini Cundasawmy
Hello, Thank you so much for your recent contribution to the article of Ranini Cundasawmy our Mauritian Martial Artist

I am still having 2 problem with her article and I am a bit lost can you please help me with or give to me some advice how to get the (!This biographical article needs additional citations for verification. (May 2013)) and (!This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it. (June 2013))

Thank you so much if you can help or advise us about it. We are really lost and doing our best to make the article looks better. Thank you so much

The page is : Ranini Cundasawmy  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranini_Cundasawmy)  Thank you  Wawapat (talk) 09:47, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

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UFC Fight Night: Condit vs. Kampmann 2
PRehse, Please reconsider your notability tag on wikipage UFC Fight Night: Condit vs. Kampmann 2. The Carlos Condit vs Martin Kampmann match can be consider a semifinal or quarterfinal tournament match of a championship in an elite organization which is notable per sports notability. I'm not sure about the woman's fight but this may be equally notable though not as popular.

Also, please reconsider your unsourced material tag because every statement on the page now has a source except one which would be considered a continuation of an adjacent statement.

Thank you for your time 70.125.72.141 (talk) 01:55, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

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Ranini Cundasawmy
Hello thank you so much for the time you dedicate to edit article on wikipedia,

Have been quite a wile that am trying to make this article good but i still have this problem **** This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page. This biographical article needs additional citations for verification. (May 2013) This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it. (June 2013) ****

I know that you have a lot of stuff to do but please Can you please help me about it

Thank you so much for all the link is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranini_Cundasawmy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wawapat (talk • contribs) 06:03, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Yip Man notable students
Saw your edit summary. Shouldn't the qualification for notable students be those who were notable for being students of his rather than just being notable as people or practitioners of the art? That was my understanding of what that infobox line was for all this time and what I've been trimming under. I.E. there's plenty of Bruce Lee articles that laud him being a student of Yip's. Same for Wong, Cheung, and Yip's sons for instance. In the same token, being notable as a practitioner (which can get you your own article here) doesn't necessarily make you notable for being a specific person's student. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 09:15, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I absolutely agree, my concern I was bringing up though wasn't in allowing people without articles. It was that just having their own article here shouldn't be a qualification either (which is what it seemed like your edit summary was stating). They really should have to provide a reliable reference providing notability for having been a student. Not just that they were a student and they themselves are notable. Yip had a lot of students, and the last thing I believe that part of the box was intended for is a big listing of verifiable students. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 09:58, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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I believe this new user is actually Maxim Slipchenko, which is why he's created articles on himself and the events and organizations he's connected with. I started to post on his talk page, but thought you might be more tactful and welcoming. I think there's a COI issue with all of those articles. Mdtemp (talk) 20:34, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I see this user is recreating the pages just removed at AfD. He created 2 articles on the 2004 WKJF championships (W.A.K.O.-W.K.J.F World Championships 2004 and W.A.K.O.-W.A.K.O. World Championships 2004 champion}.  I put them up for CSD, but I'm going to be too busy to be on WP for a few days so I thought you might want to keep an eye on him.  I'd ask Mdtemp (since he put it up for deletion originally), but he only edits sporadically whereas you edit frequently.  Thanks. Papaursa (talk) 03:51, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Karateka - Wayne Otto
Hello PRehse I added Wayne Otto to the list of notable karateka, and you removed his name. Do you have a good reason for that? As far as many people are concerned he's one of the best sport karate fighters the UK has ever produced. http://www.uechi-ryu.co.uk/karate/wayne.htm

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Wayne Otto
This entry has own page here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Otto Therefore, by your own definition, this entry is notable — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steveielts (talk • contribs) 05:10, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

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"Tekagi-shuko"
It's actually tekagi aka shuko. In action: JP articles about tekagi (shuko) and neko-te:

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Ryabko/Vasiliev
I wrote more there about them, and since nobody really comes to vote, maybe you should decide and make a vote.

And yes, the term "systema" as known in English world means just "Ryabko's Systema" (and in Russian it just means "style"). There's just one another guy who rather unsuccessfully trying to jump on their bandwagon by mixing military LARP with even more Jedi stuff, and calls it "Systema Spetsnaz". (Maybe most hilariously, the KGB logo he's using is taken from an old video game.)

Anyway, please consider voting on this duo. I really don't think this is stuff for Wikipedia, let them claim whatever they want anywhere else. --Niemti (talk) 07:44, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

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Xerxes Ilagan
Hello PRehse. Good catch, thanks. I would say it was a deliberate attempt to deceive Wikipedia (it was completely copied and pasted including refs under a different name) but I deleted under your rationale. I'm a little surprised it survived so long. Thanks again. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 16:23, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Mansour Barnaoui
In one side you improve the page of Curt Warburton, and in the other side you ask for the deletion of the page of Mansour Barnaoui!!! Why this descrimination ??? are you angry because Mansour defeated Warburton? or just because you are a racist ? Sbeitlian (talk • contribs) 22:05, 23 November 2013
 * Curt Warburton easily meets WP:MMANOT, Mansour Barnaoui doesn't even come close - simple. Anything else doesn't matter.Peter Rehse (talk) 22:58, 23 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I added all the necessary references (8 references as the page of Curt Warburton) when you tagged the article at the first time for notability reasons, and I improved it. In addition to this I deliberately imitated the article of Curt Warburton and the page of Brock Lesnar to meet Wikipedia rules and to check the neutrality of your decision and unfortunately my expectation was confirmed. Don't say Anything else doesn't matter because it is untruth.Sbeitlian (talk) 23:58, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I AfD'd Mansour Barnaoui because of  WP:MMANOT not because I am a racist or who beat who.Peter Rehse (talk) 09:25, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Categories
Again. We separate fact from fiction by making clear what is fiction through the title and introduction of a category. Not by breaking up the category tree of any subject. Dimadick (talk) 09:40, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

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 * ! style=background:white colspan=9 |Wins the Lion Figh Middleweight (-70 kg/154 lb) Championship.
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 * 2010-08-22}} In the semi-finals, he was drawn against Taisuke Okuno who he faced at  Sengoku 15. After three rounds in which Enomoto dominated the fight using boxing techniques,

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 * *Jason Gorny vs. Todd Mabbott

the (empty) force is not strong in this one
Thanks for your efforts researching this one - confirmed what I thought, and I am glad of input from someone more knowledgeable on MA matters. --nonsense ferret  22:02, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

re ki no kenkyukai internationale
Hi Which article this duplicates? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiaikido1 (talk • contribs) 20:25, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Kenjiro Yoshigasaki
Lets merge all articles into Kenjiro Yoshigasaki.

(Kiaikido1 (talk) 15:01, 19 December 2013 (UTC))


 * Peter, in the discussion at Articles for deletion/Kenjiro Yoshigasaki it's not 100% clear to me what articles you'd like to merge where. Personally, I don't think (based on current references) that any of the 4 articles now listed merit an individual article. Papaursa (talk) 01:39, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

I have already done that here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kenjiro_Yoshigasaki

(Kiaikido1 (talk) 15:20, 19 December 2013 (UTC))

Sorry not sure what you mean but I have added new footnotes and inline references. How we can close the AfD discussion to merge all(Ki No Kenkyukai Int Assc, Kenkodo) articles to Kenjiro Yoshigasaki?

(Kiaikido1 (talk) 22:53, 22 December 2013 (UTC))