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Help Me
I need to add a reference to the titled subject: Armstrong Limit. The reference is to http://www.iiimef.usmc.mil/medical/FMF/FMFE/FMFEref/fs_man/CHAPTER%201.html. How do I do that?

See Cite Sources Hope that helps let me know if theres anythink else I can help with Brian | (Talk) 04:57, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * i've added the reference for you. Rockpocket 06:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Magnetotrama
I have nominated Magnetotrama, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Magnetotrama. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? TrulyBlue (talk) 19:31, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * further to the above, I have left my opinion on the talk page for the article. By the way, should the title be magnetotrauma? TrulyBlue (talk) 19:33, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * TrulyBlue: I agree, none of the references describe immediate trauma (BTW, I have fixed that spelling). The challenge here is, such a high level exposure is apparently very rare. I am reminded of a book published in 1900 by Scientific American: "Progress of Invention in the 19th Century." In that book, the author describes the discovery of "X-Rays" and the invention of the Fluoroscope (widespread use of X-Ray film, which requires much less radiation, came later). The author goes on to stat, somewhat nonchalantly, that some persons who are repeatedly exposed experience hair loss sometime later. We now know that the longer term effects to those people probably included leukemia and other cancers, and that whole body exposure produced severe immunological suppression such that - the primary cause of mortality from short term exposure to ionizing radiation is infection. But at the time, no one knew how destructive X-Rays were to living tissue, and it was many years before the use of fluoroscopes for customer-inspection of shoe fitting in shoe shops was banned in the U.S. Many people lost their feet! The root problem with my posting is that it is new information with only anecdotal citations. I will respect the community's decision of its fate, but any suggestions on how to bring it in line with policy will be appreciated.
 * Wikipedia can only document what happens in the wider world, and until the medical profession publishes some research, or the problem is reported in Secondary sources there can't be an article an trauma. There is an article on Electromagnetic radiation and health, where your experience would fit if it has been documented in published literature.  Of course medicine takes time to note new diseases and risks, but wikipedia should follow, not lead.  Regards, TrulyBlue (talk) 09:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Please see my additions to published literature in the paragraph titled "Observations". Those references cite potentially lethal effects from static magnetic fields and multiple health effects from magnetic exposure at AC power frequencies (60 Hz). I believe this resolves the cause for the article being nominated for deletion by demonstrating that the topic is documented in published literature (very authoritative literature). Patrick (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2008 (UTC) How do I change the title to "Magnetotrauma" from "Magnetotrama" (correcting a misspelling) without moving the article? How do I comply with the prohibition on "moving" an article nominated for deletion in order to change its title (see question above)? Is this a Catch-22? Patrick (talk) 16:01, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Moving is thhe only way you can do it. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 15:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't bother, I say. The article has no chance of surviving AfD. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 16:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * For info, this discussion should be happening on the article's talk page. I've copied it there TrulyBlue (talk) 18:53, 24 August 2008 (UTC)