User talk:Pa7/Archive 1

Welcome!

Good idea, to note which films got awards. Thanks. Lots of work ahead, however, if you're to do them ALL . Zora 17:55, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Rani Mukerji
Hey! Thanks for editing Rani's page! By the way, I also included better structural sentences only if you could correct them if you find any errors. And i think the pay is an important issue as it was a controversy since the government paid 29 crores from public money to an event which could have cost less if the stars were not hired. Here's another reference for her renumeration number which was also telecasted on NDTV news channel:. I saw the pay scandal on tv for a week. People had demonstartions too. It's weird they have no such information on the net. shez15

Image:Maniaha koirala.jpg
Hey, we have a new policy of adding Template:No source to images with... no source! I like that picture but you need to provide a link to where you got the image and show which license it is. gren グレン 23:03, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Image copyright tags
Hi, Thanks for uploading images of Bollywood actresses. When you upload an image, you need to indicate the source (website/magazine,etc.,) and the license. Doing otherwise, will result in deletion of your images within a week. I suggest you choose an appropriate license tag and insert into all the images that you have uploaded. Please feel free to leave a message, incase you find the procedure confusing. -- Pamri &bull; Talk 04:18, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi Pa7, you have uploaded some great photos, but some such as still need the copyright confirmed - AKeen 01:13, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Join the project!
Please come over to WikiProject Indian cinema and help us expand and complete articles on Indian movies. Zora 19:05, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Indian WikiProjects
Hi Pa7, I've seen that you have joined the Indian cinema project. There are also many other Indian related WikiProjects. You may wish to join the following:


 * WikiProject Indian states
 * WikiProject Indian districts
 * WikiProject Indian cities
 * WikiProject Cricket
 * WikiPorject Hinduism

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from jayanthv
Hi,i saw that you r a fan of the Simpsons.However,apart from D'Oh Simpson also uses the phrase"Why yu little....?"when he strangles bart's neck.and this phrase is not available or seen on wikipedia.Can u add it or tell me where it is?--Jayanthv86 05:17, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Jaya_Bachchan.jpg
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Aishwary Rai pictures
Hello, Pa7. You were right; on Ash's article were too many pics and one of them wasn't tagged correctly. I took two of Ash's three pictures away. Now let's see what happens. --Plumcouch 16:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Aishwarya filmography
Hi, you made several changes to the above, the most important being, reverse chronological order. I think it is a great development. However, you may want to mention the source so that people can cross-check. For example, you mention that Ravoyi Chandamama is a Tamil film; in reality, it is a Telugu film. Also, please use edit summaries as it makes it much clearer as to what changes have been made. --Gurubrahma 20:14, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging for Image:Juhi_p.jpg
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A long slog
Dear Pa7, if Gurubrahma gets a Bollywood barnstar, you deserve one too, for slogging away at details. Careful attention to detail is all the difference between a so-so article and a great one. Congratulations!

Psst
I'm trying to build support for this nomination in its last few days. Please check out this page. Pass it along. Nudge nudge. -- evrik 20:17, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Mukherjee -- Samarth family tree
Hello, Pa7. I tweaked both family trees a bit -- not sure how they look to you. However, your idea using the equal sign (=) for "married" is far better than a simple plus (+) so I changed that in the upper tree too. What do you think? Do they look right to you? Maybe it's browser problem - I used IE and Firefox and both look fine. Regards, --Plumcouch 18:26, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Editing on Dil Chahta Hai
The reference of the special award is IMDB's Page. Please state your source so that we can decide wich is more accurate. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Mukherjee -- Samarth family tree // Third brother
Hello, Pa7, concerning the Mukherjee/Samarth tree, I found this: http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/web1/05may22/national.htm#5 Subodh Mukjerjee's wife, two sons and a daughter a mentioned, but among the sons is not Ram Mukherjee, Rani Mukherjee's father. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this sounds as if Rani's grandfather is a brother two both Subhodh and Sashadar. What do you think? --Plumcouch 11:26, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Sashadhar
Hi Pa7, made a brief stub on Sashadhar, not too detailed, as you started the clan page, if you have more info ( dates, filmography,) please add

Haphar 09:52, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Mukherjee's
Have also made a stub for Joy Mukherjee, should help exapnding the clan.

Haphar 10:03, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Lara Dutta
Why did you replace the superflous internal links? --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 12:15, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Preity Zinta and Jinnah
I dont think the comment on Veer-Zaara about Preity Zinta's boyfriends' famous relation is irrelevant at all. Considering this is a film about Pakistan and that was the trivia section, i think it's important trivia to know that one of the characters was in a relationship with someone with links to the country in a very notable way. It goes back on. -User: Afghan Historian

Clans
Hey great work on the film clans, couple of points that do not seem to be verified :- 1.Om Puri is not Amrish and Madan Puri's cousin 2. Gulshan Kumar did not marry Anuradha Paudwal, though there were rumors about an affair between the two. also Mahesh Bhatt has some history in the film world ( he has some producer father who had two wives or something like that) so if you could dig that you might get more mbmbers for that clan.


 * The Anand Family- Dev Anand, Chetan Anand, Kalpana Kartik, Priya Rajvansh, Vijay Anand and Suneil Anand. The Director Shekhar Kapoor is also a nephew. Haphar 15:47, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Haphar 11:03, 2 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Yup same Shekhar, and the wife is Suchitra Krishnamurthy ( i think) Haphar 16:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Also Farha ( in the Javed Shabana family) was married to Vindu Dara Singh, son of Actor Dara Singh. Shabana had another neice as an actress- Tanvi Azmi. Haphar 16:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Rani Mukerji's page
Thanks! it's shez_15. i was hoping you would tone it down a bit. That's all i wanted to achieve. i've made some minor changes. i think websites are an important link to get more information and pictures as anyone who does a research project on her can easily access to everything from wikipedia. I appreciate your help. So thanks! And also, on Preity's page, it says she was no.3 on the filmfare ranking. So why can't i put number 1 for rani as it's true from the same magazine. Thanks for understanding.

Saif Ali Khan
Bit about freezing accounts, his mother critical -- there's no references. How do we know that those things are true? Film column gossip? Please, let's be careful in passing on gossip about people who are still alive. We don't want to hurt anyone with nasty gossip, or subject WP to a libel suit. Zora 16:39, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Oops, sorry, I didn't look closely enough. I need to sleep more and keep my temper better. Sorry sorry sorry. Zora 16:56, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Rani
Thanks! it's shez_15. i just added a personal life section on rani's page. if you could correct that in your words that would be great! and i think yuva should be mentionned in the career section as it's a mani ratnam film which speaks a lot for itself. plus she got a filmfare award for it. thanks! do ask zora to stay away from the page! she is creating severe problems

Rani again
Har Dil Jo Pyar Karega has no official website. But i own the dvd and according to the film, credits have rani before preity because she was successful then than preity and still is. And please help me redo the personal life part. everybody has one. you can't ignore that. preity has one so does rani.

Rani Mukerji
Hello, Pa7. You are absolutely right. Everything *is* a total mess. I talked to User:Nichalp and to User:Johnleemk, who protected Rani's page in the first place. Both of them are admins. Let's see what comes out of it, since everyone tried to talk to Shez, but to no avail. Since he won't stop, I'm afraid we have to ask someone to ban him or follow Zora's mediator idea, though I'm not sure, Shez would listen to him/her. Best regards, --Plumcouch 00:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Rani
Hey Pa7! I apologized to Zora and I think the page should remain as my version. Although, you may want to tone it down together. Just keep the sections as they are. By the way, I'm letting you keep the Veer-Zaara page as it is. Although, I totally disagree because Rani was named before Preity in the movie as well as on the official website due to many factors which are more known to the producer himself. The best example would be Devdas and there are many others. It's like Aishwarya Rai had the lead role in Devdas, Madhuri Dixit had the supporting role. Still, Madhuri was credited before her due to seniority, name, and many other factors. Here, Madhuri even had a shorted role. Despite, it's credited like that. But no points in arguing, it's going to be a messy fight if we keep going on in the case of Veer-Zaara. I need to compromise here. It doesn't really matter who is listed before. It's a minor thing. Yet, it would have done justice to the movie and the official website if it was otherwise. Thank you for your time! shez_15 19:49, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you so much! You have done a great job! I have no regrets. I have a suggestion though. Why don't you create a turning point category in the career section for Saathiya. There is press coverage and an interview below down the page. You can write something useful on the subject of Saathiya. Anyway, I'm not touching the page because I don't want more disputes with Zora. Thanks for your help! The page looks amazing! Also, could you add something about Chalte Chalte. Any nice facts! After all, it was her first solo film with Shah rukh khan. shez_15 18:32, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Dia Mirza
Hello, Pa7, I'm desparately seeking for your help: There is a problem with several anons over at the Dia Mirza page who keep adding stuff, like endorsements and fansites. Things have gotten blown out of proportion in a really big way, as you can see on the discussion page. I had a lengthy conversation with both of them, the article got protected once and when things seemed to get betters, an admin who helped me, User:GraemeL, un-protected it again - that's when everything started to get out of control. User:GraemeL suggested I'd either ask people from the project for help or go to RfC, but I think that's the last resort, so I'm asking you and a few others for help. I'd be eternally grateful if you have time, to just drop a comment there and even, if it's just a tiny one. Best regards, a desparate Plumcouch 16:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Two anons, yes. They keep reverting and reverting. An admin blocked the article, since they were IP hopping, but to no avail. User:Zora removed the endorsements, but I guess it's just a matter of time until they revert it again and calling Wiki funded by IMDb and full of non-democratic dictators. It's quite annoying. Currently, they are just active in one article, but what I'm afraid of is that they try to do that on other articles two - and I really don't want them all to get protected and scare newcomers away in the process. --Plumcouch 23:03, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Don't remove
I don't think you should remove those facts because they are great achievements. Having a foreign audience of 50,000 people watch your movies with subtitles says a lot about global cinema coming together. The facts that she was on the power list is a tremendous honor. we shouldn't remove that too. You need to put something on the page. It is so bland, it simply talks about seven famous movies of her and that too in no details. It's so boring. If you keep adding facts, one day, we will have a lot of information to divide the text into sections and make it detailed. Lastly, Har Dil Jo Pyar Karega and Chori Chori Chupke Chupke are Rani's major films post Kuch Kuch Hota Hai, you can't just leave a blank for four years after KKHH and put Saathiya. People want to know what was going on in these four important years. I only highlighted 2000. Also, I'm not trying to copy a format from other Indian actresses which only have four major movies talked about on their pages. I am looking at Lindsay Lohan's page and making it a bit like that. It will take a while but only if you cooperate. I don't mind if you restructure the sentences but don't take away important facts unless useless. Thanks. --shez15 18:23, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Facts
Do whatever on Preity Zinta's page. I guess you are her fan. I put only power list on Rani's page. I didn't add no.1 actress. The power list also applies to a filmfare award. The no.1 position on the power list gets you the Filmfare Power Award. First it was Amitabh Bachchan and Shahrukh Khan, and then, Shahrukh next year again and Yash Chopra this year. But i just put rani was the female on these lists. Aishwarya Rai was on the first list and then disappeared. And then it was Rani on the next two years as the only female in a male-dominated industry. A big achievement. And i didn't say HDJPK and CCCC were hits, just put average and i put commercial success because they were popular movies back in the day and a lot of people went to see it so the movie gained money but didn't win awards or critical acclaim nor a status of the biggest hits. Don't remove my facts. Thanks! --shez15 19:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Riya Sen
Do you really think Riya Sen requires cleanup? Its already very small--Anshuk 03:53, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Rani & Shez
Just noticed your entry over at the Indian Cinema Project. Thanks for the heads-up. --Plumcouch 00:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Rani's personal life
Well, since you won't let me put any link ups which are controversial parts of her career, i had to put something in her personal life. No matter how geeky or busy someone is, everyone has a personal life. Therefore, i put charity appearances. I think the birthday was a highly talked about thing and it says a lot about Rani's personality. She's not a party person. She is more of a home person and totally devoted to children and the disabled after Black as she said. I've put something about Black too so people don't get bored. Now if you could just correct the grammar and put it orderly. Thanks! --shez15 19:33, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much!
I hope I don't bother you again! I'll find a source to replace the citation. Thanks! --shez15 20:02, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry!
I apologize for what I said. But it's not what i meant. I didn't mean to attack you with criticism. Obviously, you're not biased. Though, every person does take a side on what one likes and favors it. From what it seems, I just wanted to say that you prefer Preity Zinta over Rani which is ok. Every person has an opinion. I just wanted to say that I've only been working on Rani's page for the most part and I added sections and improved it. A lot of people liked my ideas like television appearances, film box and even the breakout role section and mainstream cinema which was again inspired by someone that they put it on madhubhala's page. all of a sudden, zora removed all those sections on rani's page making it fancruft! is it fair? then i tried to add personal life for a way too long time! every actor has that section on their page. every person has a personal life. but all those affairs i put on rani's page were somehow fancruft and those on per say, sushmita sen's page and aishwarya rai's page are totally not fancruft, right? so you see, i've been marked as a target since i edit rani's page a lot! do you think it's fair to remove all those sections from her page when i've been trying to use lindsay lohan's format and not some indian actor's page which are too short and lack detail except amitabh bachchan and kamal hassan's page! i just think it's unfair to remove my facts of rani's page when i can spot ten indian actor pages which contain those sections despite the fact i'm using lindsay's format. but now i've stopped since i know zora will remove every tiny bit. anyway, thanks for listening! and sorry about the implication you took from my sentences. i just don't express myself clearly with words! --shez15 18:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

IIFA Awards
Hello, Pa7, all right, I did an redirect. IIFA Awards should now redirect. It's quite easy to redirect: You just create the page you'd like to re-direct (like IIFA Awards) and write the following "#REDIRECTxxx", without the quotation marks and xxx being the page you'd like to be redirected to. Note the capital letters, otherwise it's not working. Best regards, --Plumcouch 16:31, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Tollywood // Kollywood?
Hello, Pa7,

it's me, Plumcouch. Ermm, I've been having some problems lately. I think I know a bit about Bollywood movies, but I don't know anything about India's regional cinema, liked Tollywood and Kollywood. However, articles about these two cinemas have popped up everywhere. Several users, among them User:Thala and User:Thamizhan have started to write articles about actors like Ajith and actresses like Trisha Krishnan. The fan glorification has reached new levels, I'm afraid. If you look at Trisha's article, you'll see the problems immediately. I wrote Thala that his revert of my edits was generally to appreciated, but haven't gotten any answer so far. To make a long story short: If you have time and nerves to help me with the housekeeping of all those articles, I'd be eternally greatful. Best regards, --Plumcouch 20:17, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

KANK page
Hi Pa7, I have been contributing to the Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna article and a certain anon keeps deleting the synopsis and other bits of the article. I wanted to know if anything can be done about this? I'd appreciate your help and advice. --Bollywoodbombay 03:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)Bollywoodbombay

rahul kumar
Hello, Pa7, yes, I noticed the problems on rahul kumar's page and started to clean it up. I guess in a day or two it will look as good as new. Thanks for the heads-up. Best regards, --Plumcouch 22:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Preity Zinta and SRK
I removed the photographs from the page because the fair use rationale does not allow the usage of those images as a photo of the actor on a biography article. The fair use only allows the usage to: illustrate the work or product in question, which in this case, is the film. Therefore the image as such is not a copyvio (That being the reason I didn't tag it for deletion). It can be used on an article about the film. But its usage to describe the actor, would amount of copyvio.

Perhaps you might want to confirm this with somebody else also, as I could, of course be wrong. Regards, -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph05:02, 29 June 2006 (UTC)