User talk:Pablo-flores/Archive 3

Smash World Forums AfD
I voted delete on this, but I have to say your action seems kind of precipitous. It had been posted on AfD less than a day, and a day that's a holiday for many people at that. It's not impossible that someone could have come up with a good argument for notability in the next few days. If you're going to move so quickly, it would be nice to at least see some reasoning given with the closing notice. Best, rodii 00:49, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply! This struck a nerve for me because not long ago I suggested letting someone clean up an article that was up for AfD and got a somewhat snarky "they have FIVE DAYS to fix the problem with AfD, isn't that enough!?" from someone. So it seems like at least some people think the five-day period is pretty solid. Anyway, I appreciate the civil reply, and the good job you do in general. rodii 03:45, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

G._Reeves_Project
I have about the same problem as the above, although consensus at the time of closing the debate was delete, it had only been listed for two days, one of whitch is a holiday for many people. If for nothing else, I think that this is reason enough for keeping it on Afd all five days. Bjelleklang -  talk 08:56, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Admiral Freebee
You wrote on the AfD entry page that the article about Admiral Freebee should be removed. The reason that he is not notable is of course utter nonsense - this is an encyclopedia, not a hall of fame. You further wrote that the article might be considered an advertisement for his next tour. Despite the facts that the article wasn't intended that way and that I didn't write anything that would even resemble an advertisement, I rewrote the article. MB 18:15, 3 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Please quote the remarks where I got personal, I can't find them. I already posted a reply on the AfD page regarding Admiral Freebee. I posted on your talk page because I stronly disagree with your point of view regarding 'notability', which affects more articles.
 * Regarding WP:MUSIC, please visit Admiral Freebee's website. There are several reasons why he should be considered notable. MB 18:44, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Regarding WP:MUSIC, please visit Admiral Freebee's website. There are several reasons why he should be considered notable. MB 18:44, 3 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm merely stating my opinion without the intention to backfire. I disagree with your views, not necessarily your views if you know what I mean. I believe I have policy (WP:MUSIC) on my side (even though I'm apparantly an inclusionist and thus do not care about notability). Finding proof about AF's notability is already mentioned on the AfD by myself.

Mensaje de un wikipedista norteamericano
¡Saludos, compañero de Wikipedia! I'm coming to Argentina soon and wanted to see if any of my fellow Wikipedians were interested in meeting up, etc...I'm flying into BsAs on Jan. 25th and I don't know many people there, so if you'd be into talking/getting together, let me know. Feel free to leave a message on my user page...seeya around - Paul 22:57, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Linkspam
Hi! I found you here and maybe you can help me :-) I found a linkspammer Special:Contributions/Jmputz and I wonder if a) there is a tool to mass-revert his linkspam and b) where would be the best place to report him/her and c) how can I mass-tag his posts? Thanks! --Pmkpmk 18:09, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Proof of notability
This has very little to do with Admiral Freebee so I decided to add a new subject, I just would like to know your point of view on the following. You wrote on my talk page that it's not your obligation to search for proof of notability on websites. I find this strange since it is considered to be my obligation to prove the notability of the subject of an article while any editor apparently can consider (or contribute to a consideration for) an AfD without conducting proper research. This seems very hypocritical (for lack of better words). MB 21:25, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Clear, thanks for sharing your view. I must admit though that it´s a bit harsh to consider an article for deletion or contributing to the consideration if the article (and, in this case, the author) is brand new. MB 11:57, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

River Plate
There was no consensus and the decision was wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.110.127.26 (talk • contribs) 19:21, 6 January 2006


 * Hey, you mean I am not one of the unoffical "Argentine Administrators"? I'm hurt... :) Sebastian Kessel Talk 16:33, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Viera Scheibner, your attempt to delete
If you think Viera Scheibner is a quack then you need to do some research into vaccination, and it also point sout your bias. Should you be attempting to delete medical pages if you are ignorant of the subect and show blatant bias? john 22:53, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Ho chunk rock of mystery
On google,there are references to the Gottschall Rockshelter an archeological project.I think this is the Ho Chunk rock of mystery.The Gottschall Rockshelter did register a hit on wikipedia-some native american game called:chunkey or something like that.I will leave it to your judgement of what you want to do.Thank you-RFD 17:35, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Tuliphouseinvestments
I received your message about the article on Tlos.

As I am a partner in Tulip House Investments and the author of the article there is no infringement of copyright.

--Kaya Koyu Old Boy 18:32, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

(No title)
this is a no have note from a very mad person. I have posted an article on a programing language nad you deleated it becouse there was not emough information. well I started it agane witha lot of information. a whole tutorial and you deleat it agan. why don't you just let articles be and not deleat them on a whim. that seens to be a recuring problem with you and you. I wrote the article on smbi and I will repost it evry time you deleat it. It is a valid article and you might read the whole thing befor deleating it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmiscool (talk • contribs) 19:53, 12 January 2006

Why'd you delete AllTooFlat's page?!
I thought it a good article, and even mentioned it to the guys at AllTooFlat. What was the problem with it? Klassykittychick 21:01, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

List of atheists
Hello Pablo, long time no speak! I don't know if you remember or not, but we had worked together on the inclusion criteria for List of atheists a good while ago. There is a discussion going on now regarding the article on its talk page and the future direction that it should take. I feel that you were very influential in shaping what the article ended up being and were also very militant in maintaining the empiricism of the inclusion process. I have not been keeping up with the article too much lately, but I have been a little dissatisfied with the direction that it has taken. I think the inclusion criteria needs to be simplified and revised in order to make it clearer. Would you be willing to help out with this? Hope you're enjoying a good wikivacation. Cheers! –Comics (Talk) 06:00, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Río de la Plata
Hey Pablo, you may want to express your opinion [Talk:Río de la Plata|here]. Sebastian Kessel Talk 16:29, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Warning templates
I noticed your use of a warning template on an anon user talk page recently. It is easier for other users/administrators to refer to the vandalism if, instead of using templates test1, test2 etc. you use templates of the form test-n, test2-n etc. This means that you can add the name of the article in the template. See Vandalism for more info. haz (user talk) 13:09, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

User 205.152.15.232
This individual has vandalized the Roman Republic article 11 times. As an administrator, can you not block this person? How many "strikes" does someone get? - Beowulf314159 16:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Block of 65.248.224.93
Thank you. We believe that the vandalism/careless editing was done by younger students (again, it's a school IP) who no longer have personal school computers.

I am also personally pushing that the school address the problem as a whole. Thank you again.

Clearstream
Hola! pues estoy buscando referencias concernando la crisis economica. Voy anadiendo poco a poco. De hecho, si vas a ver la pagina Clearstream, entenderas por que puede tener esta posicion central. Con Euroclear, tiene un quasi-monopolo sobre esas operaciones financieras, como lo indiqua el op-ed in Le Monde por varios jueces europeos y tambien la decision de la Comision europea sobre el non-respecto de las reglas de competencia. Como Clearstream tenia (tiene?) un sistema ilegal de cuentas non-publicadas, que sirven basemente a la evasion de impuestos y a limpieza de plata, puede entender vd que relacion tiene con la crisis de Argentina. Mejores saludos! Tazmaniacs

Urgent help needed
Thanks for copyediting the article Huemul Project. Have you seen the discussion page? The problem we are experiencing is that an anon user IP 200.xx.xx.xx keeps erasing all negative comments and warnings, both in the article and in the talk page. As you can see from the history log he has done it three times on the talk page. Two of them today and, from previous history, we know he will continue to do it. The previous history includes the article which he has been also partially erasing and re-writing in a very slanted way and with personal attacks to everyone that doesn't agree with him. In fact, by his behavior he has impeded the input by myself and other user. What do you suggest can be done? Jclerman Jclerman 19:13, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Argentinos
Hola Pablo

Vi que hace algún tiempo has traducido el artículo Aristóbulo del Valle, y te pasaba a comentar que ya he escrito algo sobre Adolfo Alsina, Valentín Alsina y Manuel Vicente Maza, que por ahí te interesa traducir alguno.

Saludos cordiales, Ejmeza 23:16, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Equal signs
Thanks for pointing out the equal signs in the anti-vaccinationist article. However, when the two equal signs are used, why does it end up as a subheading rather than as a heading? Andrew73 15:18, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

i'm not attacking Cavallo
why do you think that? i really enjoy what cavallo did, we don't like argentineans very much.

and thats what he did, its not my POV, you can call it a "Masterpiece" if you think it was, i don't care. rrpp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.83.142.148 (talk • contribs) 14:52, 14 February 2006

Demilich (band)
Why you have delete the band article?--DanielMrakic 10:26, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Notable bands:


 * Has established a tradition or school in a particular genre. The band has its own way

The band has played an own Styl of Death Metal! See also: Demilich! And the only album was re-released the 2nd time. Now on Century Media Records.

But I don´t know all criterias. So it is your decision--DanielMrakic 12:36, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Template: Provinces of Argentina
Pablo, nice wiking, but I fixed this template by sorting Buenos Aires city first on the list (as "Capital Federal") while Buenos Aires Province and others were sorted by alphabethical order. Best, Mxcatania 20:53, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
Hello, can you help me please? This people User:200.45.6.10, User:200.82.18.137, User:200.43.201.50, User:200.45.6.140, User:200.45.6.151 are all vandalizing the Comisión Nacional de Energía Atómica and Talk:Comisión Nacional de Energía Atómica articles with wrong information from self-advertising sources, including possible personal attacks on me. They're the same person with a dinamic IP adress. I requested AIAV, but it seems no one is currently able to help me! Cheers. --Nkcs 01:40, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for your help =D --Nkcs 02:58, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi - I added a note re this problem on WP:ANI in hopes of getting more exposure/comments on the 200.xx anons behavior. Would appreciate it if you would take a look and perhaps clarify more. Thanks, Vsmith 14:04, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism assistance
Hi, I noticed that you've previously handed down a 4-day block on User:216.120.146.3 (on Jan 25), but it seems as though he is at it again. I added a warning; is there anything else to be done besides waiting? I'm new, but it looks like the last time you blocked him, there was no warning within 24hrs previous of the block. Does that mean he can be blocked immediately again? Thanks for your help, dfg 17:31, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your speedy and efficient help!! dfg 18:22, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Blocks
That's not true about blocking IPs not effecting user accounts. Whenever the anon IP is blocked, I can't edit on my user account as well. It tells met that my IP has been blocked. JackO&#39;Lantern 22:33, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

200.127.209.223
Hi, Pablo. 200.127.209.223 has been repeatedly editing Domingo Sarmiento and Bartolome Mitre by inserting controversial, undocumented and clearly biased POV's. You've warned him before. Would you consider a semi protection of those articles for a while (I mean making them only editable by registered users, if that's possible)? --Filius Rosadis 12:24, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your reply and action. --Filius Rosadis 21:04, 5 March 2006 (UTC). EDIT: he has struck once again! --Filius Rosadis 21:14, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism, again
Hi, a message was sent to me by ShiningEyes about our old friend the Argentine vandal with multiple IPs, it seems that he's reverting changes again in Ronald Richter and Instituto Balseiro articles. He has been warned by ShiningEyes and me with apparently no response, and I also noticed that the CNEA and Huemul Project pages have been protected due to this guy. Can you help me please? Maybe another protection (yes, it's controversial) seems the best solution, just see his contributions. Cheers. --OneEuropeanHeart 01:50, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
 * And now he's striking in the José Antonio Balseiro article... I'm certainly TIRED of reverting his changes, warning him WITH NO RESPONSE, and reverting again his unhelpful and POV edits. What we can do? Block all IPs adresses starting with 200.43.***? Or do a massive protection on 5 important and relevant articles due to this vandal? No, obviously not... --OneEuropeanHeart 02:00, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism, again
Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. --ShiningEyes 01:21, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. --ShiningEyes 01:21, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Mmm, it seems that you're striking again. Why do you keep attacking me and other Wikipedians for editing these articles? --OneEuropeanHeart 01:30, 6 March 2006 (UTC) I have no problem at all if you and your Wikipedians associates keep adding meaningful verified (factual) content from reliable sources to those articles. 200.43.201.239 01:50, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Are you KIDDING? You ATTACKED me, ShiningEyes, Pablo-flores, Nkcs, and a lot of Wikipedians with true SOURCED contributions and COMMUNITY SERVICE and RESPECT FOR SOCIAL CONSENSUS, you gained the PROTECTION status in CNEA and Huemul Project articles, yes SURELY I must say "thanks" to you... --OneEuropeanHeart 02:10, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --  Coat of Arms  ( talk )  02:13, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
 * You'll have to prove your charges. 200.43.201.239 02:21, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
 * If that's a try to threaten me, you're wasting your time, my friend. Do you want proof? Here you are. You attacked OneEuropeanHeart, ShiningEyes, and Pablo-flores and you reverted all their contributions, even when them are sourced and accepted by community consensus. I don't know what's your history with these guys, but when an anonymous user threatens me on my talkpage saying "you'll have to prove them" I quickly realise who's the vandal here. --  Coat of Arms  ( talk )  02:38, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
 * That seems to be the real problem. They made no significant contributions to the Huemul Project and related articles, like you. Regards, 200.43.201.239 02:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
 * That's your POV. So bad that Wikipedia's articles must be entirely NPOV. --  Coat of Arms  ( talk )  03:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

It's not my POV it's the objective conclusion that anyone can reach merely by looking at the history of those articles. So your allegations have no grounds. 200.43.201.239 03:19, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Question about English Passive Voice article
Hello, Pablo-flores!

I just wanted to ask if you were the creator of this article? Your name is the earliest available one in the history, but it appears you were editing existing material. Is there some reason that previous versions of the page are unavailable. I had a question about a statement made in the original and was trying to find the author. Please reply to my talk page when you have time! Gracias! RJCraig 10:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

First of all...
First of all, thanks for your quick response and patience with this, you certainly deserve admin status. Sorry for my bothering and repetitive comments, I never thought you were online, and I was getting really crazy with that vandal. Again, thanks a lot. --OneEuropeanHeart 20:35, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Che article
Greetings, Pablo-flores. It is very emocionante to have someone from Che's hometown collaborating on the article about him! I look forward to including or linking to the great photos you have uploaded -- as you mention, the article is very "packed" at present and also exceeds the Wiki-recommended size limit, so I need to think about the best way to do this and consult with the other editors. I do believe that we must find a way to include the photo of his house that you are going to take in the body of the main article. BTW, I realize that you may not know the answer to this question, but I am wondering why the artist who did the mural made him appear so severe? Why is the portrayal not more like he really was? Thank you! Polaris999 20:40, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks for the wonderful photos of Che's house. I hope that you like its placement in the article. Thank you also for the explanation about, and links to, Carpani's work which, however, continues to perplex me. Polaris999 16:53, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Hola
No he hablado contigo en mucho tiempo. ¿No me recuerdas? Tal vez no...quiero darte una estrella por ayudarme con el español hace mucho tiempo. Ya hablo mejor que entonces...o tal vez. ε γκυκλοπ  αίδεια  *  17:31, 8 March 2006 (UTC)



Re: Policy on months and years
Thanks again for the help =) BTW, did you see this? And  unprotected Ronald Richter and the vandal started immediatly to edit.  Oh God... can we start an RfC for this? It seems the best solution, and we have the 2 required users to begin it. --OneEuropeanHeart 18:14, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Junin, Buenos Aires
Hola, Pablo.

Mis disculpas por el cambio; me parece muy bien respetar las convenciones. Sin embargo, debería ser así en todos los casos. Por ejemplo New York existe como ciudad, condado y estado. Siguiendo la convención, los artículos correspondientes deberían llamarse: Otro caso: el artículo "Mendoza" hace referencia a la ciudad, mientras la provincia está en "Mendoza Province". En cambio, el artículo "Alabama" hace referencia al estado, mientras la ciudad está en "Alabama, New York"...
 * Ciudad: "New York City, New York", "New York, New York" o "City of New York, New York" (como "Oklahoma City, Oklahoma" o "New Orleans, Louisiana")... Sin embargo el artículo está en "New York City".
 * Condado: "New York County" o "New York County, New York" (como "Dade County" o "Armstrong County, Texas")... Sin embargo está en "Manhattan".
 * Estado: "New York", en este caso correctamente indicado.

Ya me sumé a WikiProject Argentina.

--Germán Ramos ( Talk ) 9 March 2006, 14:40 (UTC).

Imágenes
Hola, Pablo. En vista de que sos el colaborador principal en material de imágenes de Rosario, tengo un pedido que hacerte. Estuve dándole con alguna extensión al artículo en español sobre Patoruzú. Por obvios problemas de copyright (w:es no acepta archivos empleados en fair use), no puedo usar para ilustrarlo ninguna imagen original, pero Erminio Blotta quiso solucionármelo erigiendo, en la rosarina esquina de Mendoza y Brasil, un busto del consabido indio. Lo que necesito ahora es un rosarino gentil y dotado de cámara que le haga una foto para completar el asunto. ¿Serías capaz de algo así? Gracias anticipadas. Un saludo, Taragüí @ 12:08, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Me cortaron las piernas... :( Gracias por la gauchada, y lamento haber hecho ir hasta loma del culo inútilmente. Un saludo, Taragüí @ 19:33, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

New Kalachakra
Hi, I'd like to get the New Kalachakra page that you deleted undeleted.

You wrote : 2006-03-13 22:25:02 Pablo-flores deleted "New Kalachakra" (AFD: POV fork)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=delete&page=New_Kalachakra

I found a page (below) which corresponds to the situation there which was that the person who nominated the article for deletion, Sylvain1972 was deleting out of Wikpedia policy repeatedly. he deleted over and over any entry I made to the Kalachakra page without any discussion at all.

This is the page about deleting blindly : "Please do not keep undoing other people's edits without discussing them first. This is considered impolite and unproductive. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. --Calton | Talk 23:55, 19 February 2006"

I think the pages can be edited with good exchange and thus I'm asking for the New Kalachakra page to be undeleted. Thank you for keeping me updated. Geir Smith 14:36, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Nohin-go
OMEDETO!!! Mariano (t/c) 10:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Strampop
Dear Sir, I find from the deletion log that you have removed Strampop from wikipedia, yet you have failed to give us good reason prior to the deletion on the AfD page linked above. It would be appreciated if the deletion is reversed until the discussion comes to a conclusion, or at least, you give your reasons for deletion. Best regards. Kilbosh 14:07, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * See my closing comments at the bottom of the AfD page. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 14:09, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I like write about Argentina but really I can't attend in the project because me English level isn't good. I write a lot about this beautiful land in Lithuanian. I think all articles need to be illustrate so I apply pictures to public domain. --85.206.226.95 16:30, 18 March 2006 (UTC) (lt:user:Hugo.arg)

um...
Did you even READ my comments on the AFDs??? I guess not. the articles on myself, Badass Xpress, WAW, and Collision Pro Wrestling are deleted but yet the articles on Chaotic Wrestling and Wrestling Federation of America are still up and not being considered for deletion????????? Wikipedia is a bunch of NAZIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Barryace (talk • contribs) 22:46, 18 March 2006

Huemul Project
Hello Pablo The anonymous user that modified Huemul project after Luzu (but before the other anonymous user that reverted to the last version by Luzu), was also Luzu, only that for some reason the system logged me out, so only the IP appeared. I was ony trying to order thimgs... Thanks for trying to keep this page as bias free as possible. Javier (alias) Luzu 13:08, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Fact-check on Carlos Blanco
Hi -- I found you by looking at random users on Category:User es-N until I found one that was active. I nominated the article Carlos Blanco for deletion 4 days ago. The article was created by User:Carlos Blanco so I regarded it as suspicious, and though I did manage to verify SOME detail about the article, I couldn't verify much. Carlos Blanco has a web site in spanish that I couldn't read, and google's translation feature is limited in quality. Just recently, an anonymous user added some information about Carlos Blanco to the AfD debate. I tried to verify what that user was saying (it does look helpful and revelant at first glance) but it's too hard for me since I know no Spanish, so I wanted to find an active editor fluent in Spanish to help out with this. Please don't take this as soliciting your vote, just your attention. We could use some help. If you don't have time for this, let me know and I'll try to keep looking. Thanks! Mangojuice 19:10, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I think that was helpful. Mangojuice 06:03, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

A confusing situation (re Che Guevara's medical records)
Hello Pablo-flores. I apologize for writing to you about a matter which may not be of any interest to you, but I hope that if such be the case you will kindly pass it on to another editor in (or at least from) Argentina. This confusion is in relation to the seemingly eternal question as to exactly what kind of medical degree Ernesto Guevara received in April 1953. Some months ago there was a big dispute about this on WP and the detractors insisted that the title "Dr." be removed from his name at the top of the article, arguing that no one has been able to produce a copy of his actual diploma. Today one of them has added the following sentences to the article:  Guevara's detractors point out that at this level of training the Che is only a medic (medico), it would have taken him three years more of clinical studies to become doctor [2]. This is consistent with the Guevara's limited record of medical practice in the Sierra Maestra. 

The source they are referencing is a conglomeration of disparate bits and pieces, at the end of which a person signing as "Miriam Mata" has attached what she asserts is a transcript of Ernesto's studies at UBA, as follows:

DOCUMENTOS ERNESTO GUEVARA Examenes resultados, mes, año y viajes. 1948 Abril, Anatomia Descriptiva Bueno Mayo, Anatomia Topografica --- (No se rinde, resolucion del interventor) Agosto, Embriologia&Histologia Aprobado Noviembre, Parasitologia Bueno Diciembre, Fisiologia Suspende __________________________________________ 1949 Marzo, Fisiologia Fis. Y Quim Biologica Aprobado Julio, Microbiologia Aprobado Julio, Semiol.&Clin.Propedeutica Suspende Agosto, Anatom.&Ficio.Patologica Suspende Noviembre, Anatomia & Fisiologia Patologica Aprobado Diciembre, Semiol.& Clin.Propedeutica Suspende ________________________________________ 1950 Enero, Primer Viaje No.Argentina 6 Semanas 1950 Abril, Semiol.&Clin.Propedeutica Bueno Octubre, Se enamora en Cordoba Diciembre, Toxicologia Bueno Diciembre,Terapeutica & Farmacologia Aprobado Diciembre, Saca credendial de Enfermero _______________________ 1951 Febrero, Navega hasta finales de Junio. Septiembre, Patologia Quirurgica Aprobado Septiembre, Clinica Gineologica Aprobado Septiembre,Radiologia&Fisioterapia Distinguido Octubre, Clinica Psiquiatrica Bueno Octubre, Viaja a Cordoba a planear viaje. Noviembre,Clinica Neurologica Suspendido Diciembre,Clinica Pediat.y Puericultura Suspendido ________________________________________ 1952 Enero, Segundo Viaje, Sur Argentina 8 meses. Agosto, Finales 26-30 Regresa Argentina Octubre, Clinica Pediatrica y Puericultura Bueno Noviembre Clinica Oftalmonica Clinica Urologica Clinica Dermatosifilografica ( Las aprueba por promocion) Clinica Neurologica Suspende Diciembre Patologia General y Medica Aprueba Clinica Obstretica Fisiologia Distinguido Patologia y Clinica de la Tuberculosis Aprobado Medicina Legal Aprobado Higiene Y Medicina Social Bueno Ortopedia Aprobado Clinica Obstretica Patologia Aprobado Clinica Quirurgica Aprobado Patologia y Clinica de Enfer. Infec. Distinguido Clinica Medica Suspende ___________________________________ 1953 Abril, Clinica Neurologica Aprobado Abril 11, Clinica Medica Distinguido Mayo 26, El Ministerio de Educacion Universidad de Buenos Aires Facultad de Ciencias Medicas Dice que al aprobar todos los examenes requeridos Ernesto Guevara, puede optar por el diploma de Medico. Fue diplomado por la Universidad de Buenos Aires el 12 de Junio de 1953. Retiro el diploma el 23 de Junio de 1953. Julio 7, Sale para Bolivia por tren. Otros dicen que el dia anterior salio para Venezuela. Diciembre, Llega a Guatemala. Conoce A Hilda Gadea. _________________________________ En la Facultad de Medicina de la Universidad de Buenos Aires, me dicen que investigue en Cordoba. Cordoba no da contestacion a los e mail. La copia del Ministerio de Educacion, Universidad de Buenos Aires(UBA) que sin interes me envio un buen amigo, dice que fue la Facultad de Ciencias Medicas. El que se gradua en Ciencias Medicas, es medico no doctor. La especialidad en alergias o dermatologia lleva otros tres años de estudios. Asistiendo a clases, y pasando examenes. Este alumno mediocre, dicen que paso examenes por la mitad de la carrera en unos pocos meses, cuando existian graves problemas en la Universidad. Crealo o no, esta informacion debe ser publicada por el Libro de Records de Guiness. Por mi parte no dudo de la UBA, en estos tiempos. Es de gran prestigio y veracidad. Sin embargo pregunto: Seria posible quitarle el titulo a alguien si se comprueba que fue fraudulenta la otorgacion? Miriam Mata

I have no personal knowledge that would enable me to evaluate these "records" in order to decide whether or not they are authentic. Also, I do not know what degree one would receive afer five years of medical studies in UBA and whether or not such a graduate would be entitled to be called "Dr.". I would therefore greatly appreciate the help of yourself and/or other Argentine editors in making a correct interpretation of all of this so that I can place the accurate information in the WP Che Guevara article, and if appropriate, restore the "Dr." to his name at the top of the page. (Or, if any of you would wish to come onto the Che article and insert the correct information yourselves, this would be even better!) Extending to you many thanks in advance Polaris999 21:40, 21 March 2006 (UTC)