User talk:PacifistPrime

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Lucas Bashing and verifiability
I know you're new here, so I'm sorry if I haven't treated you more gently. no original research is one of the most fundamental tenets of WP, and yes it does apply to fan culture. The nature of WP is that for anyone to be able to trust its information, an article must refer to outside sources. In that way, the reader knows that the facts are real and the article isn't a result of some guy fooling around 2 seconds before the reader reads the page.

I've been looking for a source that distinguishes or compares "Lucas Bashing" and "fan criticism"- did a google search, and I couldn't find one. That's my main issue with this article- when you say "Lucas Bashing is a separate phenomenon" and I say "it's just a more insulting term for fan criticism" it's basically your word against mine. I think you showed maturity by not going into what is called an edit war- but verifiability is something that has to be insisted on. This is an encyclopedia after all.

You are right that articles on fan culture tend to bend or break the verifiability rule. Star Wars fans on WP tend to be more strict however through my experience because there tends to be a lot of published material on Star Wars canon and Star Wars fan culture that can be referred to. Plus we tend to be older and more mature than the Harry Potter guys for instance.

To solve this situation, we need to find a good source on all that material. Most of the material on the individual things that Lucas is bashed for is easily verifiable- the only problem is the word "Lucas Bashing" itself. If no source can be found, one way to resolve this problem is to do research on it yourself. You seem to be quite a good writer, maybe you could write and publish an editorial for a reputable popular fan site? (reputable, e.g. NOT supershadow). That would certainly do as a reference.

I hope you stick around as a Wikipedia contributor. Please feel free to reply on my talk page. Borisblue 14:11, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

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I apologize. No offense to you, I just feel that GJJ is gratuitous and unencyclopedic in the presence of the tamer picture. --Kitch 19:30, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

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Lilith

 * A reference to the Marvel Comics Lilith is already on the Lilith page. Please don't re-add it without discussing it on the talk page. Danny Lilithborne 02:38, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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November 2008
Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to Macbeth (2006 film) has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. sinneed (talk) 06:28, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmmmm I sympathize. I have had edits I could not source deleted repeatedly, and one particularly energetic editor warned me fiercely. I would say: find some way to cite a source, or just keep slogging, or give up. I gave up. I won't remove your edit again... but I must tell you that without a source it is vandal-hunter bait. I tried to find a source, but none popped up for me on short searching. All the best. Thank you for editing, and I am sorry my zap hit an edit you feel confidence about. sinneed (talk) 08:52, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Another thought... you are the only one edit warring. Each editor has reversed you only once. sinneed (talk) 09:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)