User talk:Paidir

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Hello, Paidir, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, your edit to Shroud of Turin does not conform to Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy (NPOV). Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media.

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American politics discretionary sanctions alert
El_C 21:46, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Discretionary sanction violation
Per Template:Editnotices/Page/Andy Ngo, you are in violation of the rule which states: "If an edit you make is reverted you must discuss on the talk page and wait 24 hours before reinstating your edit." Please self-revert, while you still can. Thanks. El_C 21:49, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Well, you no longer can. But because you are still very new, I will refrain from sanctioning you for that infraction. But please study the rules closely if you intend to contest the (assault) matter further. Thanks again. El_C 21:52, 23 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Sorry I'm definitely new to this, however I thought the rule was that if the edit you make was reverted you must discuss it on the talk page and wait 24hour before reinstating it. I didn't reinstate it, I made two separate edits to the same page. Paidir (talk) 21:55, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * You removed "alleged" in both those instances, thereby reinstating (albeit in part) your prior edit. El_C 21:58, 23 October 2019 (UTC)


 * It was two different occurrences of the word though, in two separate places in the article. So that still counts? Does one have to make all edits in a single edit? I do accept if I was wrong I was wrong, just seeking clarification, thanks. Paidir (talk) 22:03, 23 October 2019 (UTC)


 * I see. But you were already reverted upon removal of "alleged" with regards to that assault. I would interpret it as gaming the system and deem it a violation nonetheless (even your edit summary is virtually identical). El_C 22:07, 23 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes, I didn't realise one couldn't make multiple separate edits to an article, I definitely wasn't trying to game the system at all. The summary was virtually identical as the two edits were almost identical, just in two separate places. Again, no malicious intent, just new! Was my edit not accepted? I wonder why. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paidir (talk • contribs)


 * No malicious intent presumed. At any event, the matter is being discussed on the article talk page presently. I invite you (as well as the other participants) to engage the dispute there. El_C 22:16, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Lead section
Please read WP:CITELEAD. Tgeorgescu (talk) 13:55, 24 October 2019 (UTC)