User talk:Pak21/Archive3

Jerry C Deletion
I think the article Jerry C does meet the music standards as he has done a tour of Taiwan and I'm not sure what the quarral with the image is but I could use another. Thunder Cat 11:07, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I think I'll give up until he releases his second album but thanks for helping out on the debate your comment was the only helpful one. Thanks, Thunder Cat 17:29, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Ork name generator link removal
Hello there apologies i did not know external links that have further links to homepages are not allowed. The first sentence of your reply indicated that wikipedia does not serve commerical links the link i posted had no commerial content. However just as a matter of interest, The current wiki links for this section:

http://www.tauonline.org Includes google advertisments and requests for donations

http://www.games-workshop.com/ Needless to say a commercial site

http://www.lexicanum.com/ Front page has two links. both of which have adverts/sell stuff

http://www.warhammer.net/board/index.php?c=11 Google Adverts

http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/index.php Front page randomly generate afiliates adverts

http://www.criticalhit.co.uk/content/view/18/44/ google adverts

http://www.40konline.com/mos/ two non related advert banners

Our friend with Imperial Dragons
Are you watching List of Space Marine Chapters? Dweller 12:03, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

carnifex
Yes, I've been working on it. It didnt' help that I accidentally saved it mid-edit... but I'm done with it for now. Cheers. --DarthBinky 21:33, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * excellent. I'm going over some of the other Tyranid articles now.  I'm currently working on the Tyranid Warrior one; I think I will be looking at Ravener after that.  --DarthBinky 22:13, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Vietnam/Heaven at AfD
Hello, I have completely rewritten this article. Please review my changes, and reconsider your vote for deletion. Thanks, Aguerriero  ( talk ) 17:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Tree of Knowledge System
Hey there Pak,

Randomly stumbled onto your page (I forget how) but anyway, seeing as you have a PhD in Astrophysics, I thought you might like this article we have started on the Psychology Wiki. Its about how all things can be scaled up, starting from physics, but that emergent phenomena and complexity means that chemistry, biology, psychology are used instead of physics to explain what is going on:

Its called the Tree of Knowledge System Thought you might find it interesting. We need a good astrophysicist to give it an edit basically. Mostly Zen 20:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Pores of Kohn
Hi, you substubbed Pores of Kohn with a cardiovascular substub, but the article is actually related to the lungs. I would like to re-substub it, but I have no idea what the correct substub should be. -- Koffieyahoo 00:31, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

3RR
Just a friendly note that you are close to breaching WR:3RR. Just so you know. All the usual notices about possibility of being blocked etc... :) -Localzuk (talk) 14:42, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Good point. Ignore me. I'll go and be silly somewhere else :P -Localzuk (talk) 14:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Michael Jackson (Anglican bishop)
Re Michael J, what do you suggest as the correct procedure? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.157.247.1 (talk • contribs).
 * Thank you for your help —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.157.247.1 (talk • contribs).
 * Thank you for all your help. Whilst I notice some of the history material has been deleted, the offensive material still remains. Can I perhaps ask you to look again at the M Jackson issue? Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.157.247.1 (talk • contribs).
 * Thanks for your help previously. Could I ask you to look at the M Jackson page again, info was added on 1st July —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.129.242.98 (talk • contribs).

Rome: Total War
I have been having issues with Darth Binky regarding the Rome total war page, and his continual delition of the Jedi Order page. He has also vandalised my personal page so could you please block him or at least stop reverting the messages i leave on his page. God save the queen!!! By Maja18 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Major18 (talk • contribs).


 * Seriously this time. I have notised that Mechanismtongs has been insulted by an un-named individual who i know to be David Comly. Please see the history of the Hook, North Hampshire page (bottom of the page). Here is the offencive statement.


 * Hook contains many yobs and chavs, which often hang outside budgens or at the train station. This includes the user Mechanismtongs


 * I recomend that he be blocked for at least 24 hours.By Major18 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Major18 (talk • contribs).


 * Major18, i would like to warn you now about the seriousness of unjustified speculation as it can easily be interpreted as personal attack (please read WP:NPA). Furthermore i would like to confirm the i did not add that offensive comment to the article in question, nor do i have any idea who did. As much as you are entitled to your own opinion this sort of comment has very little relevance here, and it has therefore been removed. David 23:15, 9 July 2006 (UTC)


 * (Comment restored) --Pak21 08:06, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry about impersonating Mechanismtongs but I do know him and he doesent mind --Major18 14:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Pak, just a quick not to tell you to ignore the user David Comley, I know him (unfortunatly), and whatever he says his IP address has been behind vandalism. --Major18 15:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I would also like to add that major18 has been warned numerous times about vandalism and has indicated that somehow he finds your username offensive? User_talk:David_Comley
 * In addition to this you will find my I.P address on my talk page under the section 'R.e: Vandalism page' from when I accidentally signed my name without signing in. I have no desire to continue bickering over this, so please just give it a rest. --David 15:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Jedi Order
hi pak21 ages ago you were envloved in the deletion of a page called jedi order because you and others claimed it was against the rules to mention clans and be biased but i have found a page that is a about a clan and is heavly biased and breaks all the rules jedi order broke and this page was created by clan members i feel something should be done about it as it is unfair on the jedi order that you let one clan have a page and not anouther here is the link to it X-Fleet Sentinels —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.93.21.137 (talk • contribs).
 * If you feel that a Wikipedia article should be deleted, you should follow one of the procedures listed in Guide to deletion. Hope this helps. --Pak21 08:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Sport
Pak, you consistently deleted a non-commercial external link placed on that page despite the fact that the external lists for that page contain more than half of commercial sites that should not be listed at all based on your criteria. I also noticed looking under Volleyball, one of your favs, the same thing isis true. Realize this comes across as selective, biased, and favoritism/cronyism.

If you want to enforce a standard for links on a page, your effort should be consistent. Removing some links that have more value than other links left behind is absolutely not reasonable. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wikimarks (talk • contribs).

Spiky bits
You deleated the Spiky gods bit even though these are gods within the codex, I agree on the deleation of the fan stuff though disagree on the deleation of the gods of spiky bits.

I have reintroduced it though have merged this with the article on the other minor gods, I hope this version seems more better. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.110.37.167 (talk • contribs).

Spelling
Thanks Rich Farmbrough 20:37 26 July 2006 (GMT).

Re: Alaric Eshara
Ah right, didn't see the notability page regarding WH40K characters. Sorry. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.129.215.159 (talk • contribs).

Vandalism Revert = minor edit
You're quite right - my bad. Kayman1uk 07:12, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Lemmings re edit summary.
Really? I did. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.173.30.65 (talk • contribs).
 * Cheers! I think it looks much better that way :-) 203.173.30.65 11:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

My apologies. It is a common bug lately. Powers 15:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

QNAP TS-101 page
You proposed to delete this articele as it looks like an advert. My vision is that the QNAP article will soon be of similar quality as the one for WRT54g. OK the products are commercially available products but for both of them a large user group are working on plugins and mods. There a dedicated forums in Slimserver.com and I have asked for support to get the wiki page up to speed. Please allos us a bid of time to get this done. For the time beeing I will remove a couple of lines that sound a bid adverty. Cheers, Norm —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Norman5007 (talk • contribs).

Central Blues AFC
stop deleting this article. this article has been around in the form of a stub, since the Club's creation, it wasn't even originally put up by someone affiliated with the club, just some footy fan.

as you can see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OAFL#Current_Clubs

thanks to you, the blues are now the only team in the OAFL that does not have a wikipedia article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vkushchenko (talk • contribs).

40k perspective
I appreciate that the MoS requires such intervention, but I'd ask you do a few things:
 * Make some contribution yourself to provide a better example to follow
 * Do the same for articles written by people other than me
 * Back up your actions on the talk page so that I and others have something to work with as opposed to being a rules robot.

I don't have my books with me; I merely remember a lot of fluff, so forgive me about my shaky referencing. The canonical points should be easy enough to track down for anyone who does have access to the common literature. Sojourner001 13:29, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The History article, which is the one I've been spending most time on, was requested on the Project talk page by several users including yourself. Perhaps since my attempt at something you agreed should exist isn't suitable for you, you should take the time to contribute something to it yourself.. I agree on the deletion of the Gothic War article; I've since realised that it was badly structured and didn't warrant a seperate page; i'm filling it out in a more suitable style on the history page.


 * I would have thought it obvious that most of the text on the history article isn't mine - especially as I pointed out that it had been cross-posted. I'm not an expert on either the Tyranids or the new material on the Crusades and Heresy, so those are placeholders - whose parent articles, as far as I can see, you haven't criticised.Sojourner001 13:50, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Lexicanum copyright
No, I was looking for the GW version- I know I've seen that very same IP info printed elsewhere (I've never been to the Lexicanum page before), and could swear it was on the GW site. Perhaps they took it down recently (it does say that they reserve the right to change it at their leisure). But anyway, I could't find the reference so I removed my comment. Cheers --DarthBinky 15:54, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Sort of. I've seen that page; it's the same on the US site.  What I mean is I've seen it (the GW IP policy explanation on Lexicanum's "GW Copyright" page) worded exactly the same way as how Lexicanum has it, and I'm pretty sure it was on the GW site- like I said, I've never seen this Lexicanum page before.  It appears that it has been changed since I saw it.  If you look at the rest of the bullet points there are written in the same semi-informal style that GW uses still. --DarthBinky 16:07, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Space Marines
I appreciate what you've done, but I do disagree with you on a few points. Yes they were Legions to begin with, but as for the Index Astartes, they're the first founded, it was the Codex Astartes that Roberte wrote, as you already put down in the wiki. Secondly, they were not known as the Angels of Death, that was what the conjoined Dark Angels and Blood Angels codex was called for the 2nd Edition release for WH40k. Also the Adeptus Astartes are all the known Space Marine Chapters. As for the 2 unknown Legions that are expunged from the Imperial Library, the Grey Knights are not a second foundiong but a sperate group, the ordo malleus I believe. And the Fire Hawks are speculated to be reincarnated in the form of the Legion of the Damned. However early editions of the 40K compendium(when every race had access to the Land Raider STD) show that the Legion of the Damned were a complete Legion all their own, as to the change I cant say and do not know why GW made the choice. Also the White Scars do hail from Mundus Planus. http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/background/console.htm

Warhammer Article
Thanks for pointing out my mistake! I was going through and reverting a few articles from the same user that were obviously all spam, and must have reverted your edit back to the spammed version. I've now reverted back to the correct (i.e. your) version. Blowski 19:53, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Examples that are not personal attacks

 * "Personal attacks do not include civil language used to describe an editor's actions, and when made without involving their personal character, should not be construed as personal attacks."

Nice try.

--Jesse 15:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

SmackBot request
Could I ask you to add WikiProject Warhammer 40,000/References to the list of pages SmackBot will do ISBN reformatting for? I hope the reason for this request is fairly obvious. Cheers --Pak21 17:50, 28 August 2006 (UTC) Done Rich Farmbrough 18:04 28 August 2006 (GMT).

Vandalism excuse
Sorry Pak21... some idiot did itMechanismtongs 13:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Warhammer 40,000 edits
Hi. Just a quick message to say "Thanks" for all your recent spelling/grammar etc fixes to the Warhammer 40,000 related articles. If you're interested in this sort of thing, I'll just give a very quick plug for WikiProject Warhammer 40,000. Cheers --Pak21 11:44, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. When I look up something and see spelling and grammar errors, I just start fixing, and then follow the links on the page and keep fixing there until I either get bored or have fixed the entire topic.  It's no big deal; just part of what I do when I'm reading.  Rogue 9 12:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I strongly suspect you'll get bored before you get through all the Warhammer 40,000 articles. There's a lot of dodgy quality ones there :-( Anyway, thanks again --Pak21 12:14, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't count me out just yet. I'm an Asperger's Syndrome patient; my attention is almost impossible to break once fixated.  ;)  I actually did a very long kick on the WH40K articles several months ago; cleaned the articles on every Space Marine chapter that I could find.  Rogue 9 12:18, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Mechanismtongs et al
Hi. Not hassling in any way, but are you going to be sending the thing to CheckUser, or were you expecting me to do it? If you're going to do it, you may be interested in User:Pak21/JediOrder which is a list of suspected sockpuppets of the Mechanismtongs and his friends in the Jedi Order online clan (for what it's worth, I think there is more than one person here, but they're certainly meatpuppeting as well). Cheers --Pak21 11:51, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the file. I'm going to get a Checkuser to confirm all of this. All involved seem to be wikistalking DarthBinky and Hut 8.5. --  Netsnipe  ►  11:54, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help in this matter. I know the people in question in real life (which is why they keep harassing me), and I know of a few of their accounts you haven't found yet. Have a look at:

User:Agent 11

User:Bryn Horsefield

User:David Comley is gay

User:DavidComley

User:I LOVE DAVID COMLEY

User:Mad Turkey

User:Major18's revenge

User:Majorkiller

Most of these accounts have been blocked indefinitely.

A lot of their sockpuppets have been vandalising User:Doobuzz as well. Thanks for your help. Hut 8.5 15:00, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Missed User:Dev Alahan Hut 8.5 15:38, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

More suspected socks
User:Paki 21 and User:Jedi order master look suspicious. Hut 8.5 19:56, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Mistake on block length
Thanks for pointing that out, typo on my part. I've corrected the notice on the IP's talk page. -- Deville (Talk) 15:48, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Chaos Remake
What was wrong with the link for the chaos remake 'Disorder' that you removed? (im fairly new to this, did I break a rule or something?) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chicknstu (talk • contribs).

What part of the External Links policy did it break, for future referance? I can see how a lot of the others do (e.g. one links to a flash version of the game) Chicknstu 16:58, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi
I am a new user and I noticed you edited the RTW article a lot and I was wondering if there was any thing I could write to help or if you have any other computer game articles you think I might like to edit thanks. Mr Roboto 19:58, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Guideline?
You apparently made WikiProject_Warhammer_40%2C000/Inclusion_Guidelines a guideline. I don't think that was proper. Just because there are no objections, doesn't mean theres consensus for this. This guideline is based on a very very very specific subject, and so doesn't really fit with general guidelines. I'm gonna remove the guideline tag (sorry). Fresheneesz 01:16, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Similarly I do not feel that your enforcement of this arbitrary policy which has been widely criticized by many project participants is fair or honest, especially when you make untrue statements indicating there is a consensus where none in fact exists. Emperors Harbinger 16:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

commons
see here please. Bouncey2k from commons.

Re: Warhammer 40,000 images
The creator of Warhammer holds the copyright on those miniatures. Bye. Bouncey2k from commons.
 * I put that tag to be kind. But those pictures should be deleted on sight. Bye. Bouncey2k from commons.
 * Please, read this. Bye. Bouncey2k from commons.
 * Is this enough?. Bye. Bouncey2k from commons.
 * Yea, Maybe i've been not clear. I'll fix when i'll be back at 8 pm. :) Bye. Bouncey2k from commons.
 * The photographer holds some copyright. But the minuteres themselves hold some other copyright. This is the point. In the page you linked me "what you can or can't do" I read this: "Photos of Painted Models: We encourage fellow hobbyists to show off their painting skills by taking photos of their miniatures and putting the on the site. Please remember to correctly credit the IP - "miniature © Games Workshop Ltd 2003-2005. All rights reserved. Used without permission - model painted by xxxxxxx"". Bye, Bouncey2k from commons.

Dark Angels image
Sure, you can use it with fair use license. But I'm afraid that I won't be able to use my photo of my minis on Polish Wikipedia because of that license. It seems that we will not be able to use any photos of any minis manufactured by GW :(.

Brother Bethor, 217.97.77.126 12:05, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

leave me alone
Just Do not bug my anymore —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.39.64.2 (talk • contribs).