User talk:PaladinWhite/Archive 1

(archived) - Recommend a user for blocking

 * Hi, if the IP has received a proper set of warnings and still continues to vandalise, you can report it at WP:AIV. Cheers, --KFP (talk | contribs) 17:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

(archived) - Dummy Edits

 * No, sorry, there is not... Anyway if your edit has similarities to your usual edit pattern, it will become obvious that it was you who did it. Regards, Hús  ö  nd  18:05, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * You could make a dummy edit with an edit summary explaining what you're doing. John Reaves (talk) 18:08, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright, I dummy edited it. Thanks for the tip! PaladinWhite 23:01, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

(archived) - Plagarism

 * What's the article? If it's blatant copyvio, you can use  or take it to Copyright problems and follow the procedure there.  Let me know if you need more help. John Reaves (talk) 07:04, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

(archived) - Regional Focus Template

 * See globalize and check out Template messages for more. Let me know if you need anymore help. John Reaves (talk) 05:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

commons:user:PaladinWhite
I assert that I am the same user as commons:user:PaladinWhite

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Dialog/Dialogue
Just FYI, dialog is an acceptable spelling of this word, although non-American, I think. In this particular case your change was correct, so I haven't changed it, but make sure you don't correct spelling merely when a different national variety of English is being used. This is a regular mistake on English Wikipedia, and you can read more about it in the Manual of Style. Thanks! Natalie 14:42, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I had to check. But our own article is under "dialog"! Natalie 15:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Find the formality guideline
Why does this always happen? I read something just yesterday about the guideline for formality on Wikipedia, about formal language not being required... Today I want to use it and for the life of me I can't remember where it was! Anyone care to point me in the right direction? PaladinWhite 18:16, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


 * WP:TONE may be what you're looking for (Section 2).  Eliminator JR  Talk  18:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm... Thanks - close, but that's not it... I remember the one I read mentioning three or four specific examples, including the use of while rather than whilst. Anyone else got an idea? I'll stick the back on, hope that's permissible... PaladinWhite 23:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


 * It's this what you are looking for? Real96 01:06, 28 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Nope, that's not it either, but close again! PaladinWhite 01:43, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

(reduce indent) I'm sorry, but it has to be one of those two. Oh yeah, Wikipedia is not a game. Real96 01:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey! Perhaps you're looking for How to copy-edit? Good ol' google helped me there :) Grace notes T  § 01:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Gracenotes! I thought this user was playing a game, and knew the answer all along. Real96 02:04, 28 March 2007 (UTC)


 * That's it... Thanks for clearing my name, Gracenotes... Sorry I didn't come across as serious as I was... If you're interested, this edit is what I needed it for.


 * Guess I'll take off the welcome box if that's alright. PaladinWhite 05:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Questions about Wikipedia
Hey! If you have questions about Wikipedia that you'd like answered, please check out an IRC channel on freenode, which enables you to ask questions in real time. It's called #wikipedia-bootcamp, and you can learn about using it (among others) here. Otherwise, you can continue to use helpme, and you've done a lot of that! Thanks for your curiosity and willingness to learn. See you around. Happy editing, Grace notes T  § 02:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm looking forward to upgrading to a computer that'll run IRC at the same time as a couple other programs, but until then, is a lifesaver! PaladinWhite 05:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:Traveling
Hey, I have limited access to the internet, so I can still answer your question if you need... I was in St. Louis last weekend (for fun) and I'm on my way to Storrs, CT this weekend (for "business"). And so far, so good, thanks for asking! Carom 19:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks! You seem to have been getting along quite well with helpme! Carom 15:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your question
Hey, according to this, the title of a short story should be put in quotation marks, as opposed to italics. I believe this is the same convention followed in most style guides. Carom 04:11, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


 * How in the heck did I miss that? I CTRL+Fed it twice just to make sure... Oh well, thanks for pointing out my blind spot! I figured that would be the policy if there was one, because as you said, it's pretty standard, but I didn't want to assume that policy elsewhere held true here without checking.


 * P.S. Heh, edit conflict. Thanks for being the sort of person that tries to make things clear! PaladinWhite 04:17, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey, no prob - I still have to have glaringly obvious things pointed out to me by other users... Carom 04:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

thanks pal(adinWhite)
Hey that's fine - couldn't find it in my dictionaries so it's good to know. cheers [ps people like you do make it fun :)] Julia Rossi 13:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Only Human re
Nah that's ok, it happens. :) --ImmortalGoddezz 23:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Re:Obtaining an author's image
Well, if the author is willing to uload an image and release it under the GFDL, that would be the ideal situation. However, if there is absolutely no free picture available (and the author is unwilling to provide us with a free image), current policy allows the use of a copyrighted image (it falls under fair use). I would personally recommend against using unfree images, though - remember, the underlying idea of wikipedia is that it's free - and using images under the fair use provisions of copyright law isn't entirely in keeping with that ideal. Also, there is considerable disagreement in the larger community about what, exactly, we can use under fair use, and your image may end up being deleted anyway unless you get all the liscensing ducks in a row (so to speak). In short, if you can get a free image, great. If you can't, I would say that we could probably manage without, for now (but obviously, you are free to disagree, and current policy does, in fact, permit unfree images in certain cirsumstances). Carom 01:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


 * As an addendum, some information on unfree images used under fair use can be found here (not in particular the subhead "Policy"). Carom 01:38, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I didn't intend to use an unfree image, for the reasons you pointed out - why stick it up there if it's likely to get taken down by someone else anyway? I just wasn't sure if asking her if she'd like to provide one would somehow (indirectly) violate policies on editing articles you're involved in (because it provides the opportunity for her to show herself in the light she chooses).


 * *hits "Send" on the email* Thanks! PaladinWhite 01:41, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


 * If the authoris willing to provide a free image (either by releasing it into the public domain, or liscensing it under the GFDL), I don't think anyone will complain about it's origin. Also: if you do manage to get a free image, upload it to Commons instead of Wikipedia. Carom 01:44, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, she sent one - I'm fine uploading the image itself, but do I need to upload the email somewhere or do something to "prove" she's given permission for use? PaladinWhite 12:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


 * If you upload it to Wikipedia, use the PD-release template and you should be fine. If you upload it to Commons, use the PD-author template, and forward the email to permissions@wikimedia.org with a brief explanation. That's assuming it's a PD image, of course. Carom 16:03, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Now that I've uploaded a couple pictures, am I supposed to wait for some sort of response from the forwarded email before using the images, or do I just forge ahead? PaladinWhite 11:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I would just start using the images - worst case scenario, if there is any kind of problem, they'll just be deleted, and you can always take that up with the deleting admin. Carom 13:36, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Translate "just a phrase"
Is there a place on Wikipedia where I can request translation on a small chunk of text? I looked around Translation, but all I could find was information relating to the translation of an entire article - in this case, only a few phrases in an article need translation. PaladinWhite 02:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No, if you want to translate a page, I would ask a person who is fluent in that language to help you or go to Altavista. Cheers. Real96 02:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I could easily enough do a basic translation myself, as I speak passable Spanish. However, the reason I need an outside translator is that the phrases include acronyms or abbreviations which would require backround knowledge of the subject, and therefore some level of cultural nativity. PaladinWhite 02:29, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I recommend you ask at the Wikipedia for that language, or ask someone listed in the relevant Category:Wikipedians by language. —Centrx→talk &bull; 02:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * (Edit conflict) I would not recommend doing a machine translation - WP:Translation states that such a translation is often worse than nothing, due to problems with cultural nativity as you mentioned, and with specialized syntax the program can't comprehend. Try talking to a translator listed here, or list a request for translation and specify the problem there. The template Translation can be placed on the article's talk page and will provide directions on how to do that. Hersfold (talk/work) 02:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Re:Frogmen
Oh, man, are those pages a mess...I'll take a look this week and see if I can't fix them up a little bit. Carom 02:48, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Link
No worries! I will see what I can do with it, I will add it to one of the articles I mentioned. Thanks a lot for bringing it anyways, it is just that there have been so many instances of touristy self-promotion links in that article over time that some editors (me included) have been a bit weary :) Cheers! Baristarim 17:22, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Move of Transmutation
Done. Please create the disambiguation page as promised. The way, the truth, and the light 12:19, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: History of a Deleted Page
Well, you can check the deletion log for a page, in this case, here. You can access the deletion log from the page that says "Wikipedia has no article with this name" - there's a link in that big block of text at the top that says somehting like "Check the deletion log". It seem this article was a speed deletions through condition A7, which is wiki-code for "unremarkable people, groups, companies and web content". You can read the full text of A7 here. If you have a problem, you'll want to take it up with the deleting admin (in this case, I would try Cryptic, as Betacommand has rather a lot on his/her plate right now. Let me know if there's anything else I can do. Carom 03:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Right-o. I don't know that I have any particular objection to the deletion, now that I at least know what it was for. One more lesson committed to memory, and one editor that much improved! PaladinWhite 04:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:Curb gutter storm drain.JPG
I've added the location as per your request. What article did you have in mind? Rklawton 23:39, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Ohio images
Hi PaladinWhite, thanks for your note about the deleted images on USS Ohio (SSGN-726). The image deletion log shows:
 * 21:46, 10 April 2007 User:Naconkantari
 * deleted "Image:Ohio Logo 2.jpg"
 * Image with no copyright tag as of 28 March 2007

Yes the article looks bare without the images. If you can find replacements with proper copyrights that would be great. Leave me a note :) Best regards, Caltrop 01:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

WP:NOT Indiscriminate collection - how-to guide template
Is there a template specific to "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information," specifically, a how-to guide? The closest I could find was ... I don't want to suggest that the page be deleted (as   does), I only want to tag it for conversion to a genuine article instead of an instruction manual.

Also, how do you add the template tag to a page, instead of the boilerplate itself, without using ? I know there's a way to do it, but I couldn't find it this morning. PaladinWhite 14:34, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


 * In answer to the second part of your question, I think what you're looking for is the "tl" prefix. For example,  displays Unencyclopedic. Carom 14:38, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Aaaaaand ta-da! I present you with howto! Carom 14:42, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


 * And as an addendum, you can use gameguide as a more specific template. A listing of all cleanup templates can be found here. Carom 15:05, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey, don't worry about it - I'm usually around, except when I'm not. ;) Carom 14:45, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Sweet, that was way more than I was looking for, but no less than I needed! I'll definitely be prepared the next time something comes up. PaladinWhite 15:08, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


 * generalize is probably the closest thing right now, but you can always suggest a more specific template somewhere (the talk page of the template directory might be a good place), provided you can demonstrate some kind of need. Carom 03:38, 12 May 2007 (UTC)


 * That'll work - I can't reference anything other than Mucus as a need for a new template, and it will do just fine in this situation. Thanks again! PaladinWhite 03:44, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Reverting the Article
Please take a look at the sources given before reverting. MOST of them are blatantly bias towards tamils and have absolutely said nothing of human right violations against Sinhalese people.I call them dummy human rightist and definitely they should not be quoted..We have had this discussion long a go ,and the disputed author failed to show us the neutrality of these sources.Plus, believe me THERE IS NO PROOF these people died as a result of the war, there are no forensic evidence..If you have anything to say,write it in the talk page.I hope you will bring good evidence to back up claims,then I would have no problem believing this.Thanks Iwazaki  会話. 討論 02:21, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

User - Dbiel
Thanks for you entry on my talk page. The section you added to was meant to be a note to myself to do some research on the subject before adding the helpme flag. Thanks for doing he work for me.

As far as the Ram page goes, I would say that we have reached an consensus with the last change to the headings. It clearing states which section to look in for the definition.

I would be interested in hearing your thoughts regarding my "be bold" question on the Ram discussion page. Dbiel 01:29, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your helpful reply Dbiel 04:59, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering if you might be willing to review and comment on the disambiguation page I have been working on in my namespace: User:Dbiel/RADB Dbiel 05:23, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Duraiappa stadium mass grave
Dear PaladinWhite, first please understand that I ma very busy these days and I many not reply swiftly toy any queries. if I am late in reply hat means I am occupied with my non-wiki stuff and NOT deliberately ignoring you. Also, please be noted that we live in different parts of the world, and completely different time zones.Which means sometime I may take a half a day(or day) just to notice what you have written..Keep those in our mind, lets get to the point.You got to understand that most of my points are based on valid basis. I don't think some sources can be used to confirm the authentication of the article.Esp the one, British refugee some thing, it looks like a dummy human right organization..Also, there is another human right group,whose members are belong to a leading pro-LTTE tamil party.Obviously we can't take it as a unbiased source.I totally agree with your decision not to make further reverts, BUT I must say that the tags should remain there until we reach consensus. I have added bias source to some sources and those should remain too.If you have anything to say regarding this, please post it at my talk page,as I am not a member of the Sri Lanka reconciliation I am not obliged to reply there..Well I prefer to discuss at either my/your talk page/s or at the articles discussion page. many thanks Iwazaki  会話. 討論 13:21, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Duraiappa stadium mass grave
I made corrections. Please take to Administration to resolve the issue. Wikipedia is becoming too free place to edit. Lustead 16:04, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Duraiappa stadium mass grave

 * I made mistake that assuming, I am “Reverting to PaladinWhite version” of this,I wrongly reverted to this. I have informed the Administrator to unlock or revert to what I intended. You are right in your argument. Lustead 12:31, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Mass grave article
I appreciate a neutral guy like you getting involved when involved parties call even Amnesty International as not acceptable :))). Only thing you can do under these circumstances is to get an Admin involved because there is no compromise possible. Your step to take it to Sri lanka reconciliation is step one but I will be off for few days. User:Lexicon another neutral but admin can be of help to you to bring civility to a sitiation when people assume that they have the right to write what ever in Wikipedia because they know better than the sources cited. Good luck and see you later Taprobanus 00:06, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Dude for a High school student you have more sense and maturity than most (but not all) Sri Lanka centric adult Wikipedians that I have come across during the last 1 year in Wikipedia. I hope to run across more people like you. In the Reconciliation page, I am trying to get consensus for the categories such as mass graves and Sri Lankan Tamil history before we go to the Admin. I have invited others to comment also. I will be away starting next week but be back in force after that. Thanks for all what you have done so far amongst the incivility Taprobanus 13:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Straw poll
Started a straw poll in the Duraiappa stadium mass grave per WP:DR here Taprobanus 13:03, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I fixed the straw poll based on your feed back Taprobanus 14:31, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for moving the Alien Autopsy (film) to it's place I was getting around to it mysef but been busy. Also good job removing the spam. Thanks again.--M8v2 02:25, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Adoption
In the spirit of the time of year, and givent hat you have recently reached 1000 edits and seem to be rattling along rather nicely, it seems appropriate to "graduate" you from the adoption program. Obviously, this confers no real benefit or special status, and certainly doesn't prevent you from continuing to ask questions, but I think it is a good way to mark your development as an editor.

Oh, and a little something for you as well:

Congrats, and good luck. Carom 16:22, 25 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Congrats also on your high school graduation, then! I see from your user page that you are bound for Coe College in the fall, so allow me to be amongst the many multitudes who I'm sure are wishing you good luck, etc! Carom 18:37, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Something that may interest you...
I don't know how active you intend to be during the summer months, but you may be interested in the upcoming Gnome Week, which sounds right up your alley... Carom 00:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Re:Categories
To show a link to a category without putting the page in question in the category, put a colon after the first set of brackets but before the word "Category." - if you type, you get Category:World War I. Carom 23:22, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It seems I knew that at some point... I'm getting better at actually recording things I learn at my user page, sandbox, or elsewhere, so I don't have to ask the same questions over and over again! Once again, thanks a bunch! PaladinWhite 23:24, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Minor edits
I just want to let you know that you don't have to waste time fixing minor edits, like putting the   brackets out of a plural "s" or something like that. WinterSpw 04:31, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Lolz alright, just letting you know. =P WinterSpw 14:52, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Brown Sugar (Rolling Stones song)
Would you mind rating that song's article? Stan weller 08:20, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * What about it needs work? Stan weller 03:42, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation entry descriptions
In a dab cleanup comment, you wrote: "Each entry should contain a short description of the subject, per Manual of Style (disambiguation pages)". The actual guideline is that descriptions should be as short as possible. In some cases, this means that no description is needed at all -- often the case when the title has a (disambiguating) phrase behind it. If the title of the article is sufficient to attract the readers who were looking for it, that's all that's needed. (This is also alluded to in WP:MOSDAB). Cheers! -- JHunterJ 19:25, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

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I think that a fuller lead would help the article a lot. I've added a couple of sentences, but it needs more. The lead should ideally be about three paragraphs and give an overview of the whole article. Metamagician3000 04:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey, Paladin. Did you abandon your own nomination of ocean sunfish? Just kidding. But you should probably take a look at my recent extensive editing to make sure you like them ;) Fred Hsu 18:27, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

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May I ask a favor?
I hope this is your talk page, I am a bit confused by its current contents, but that is besides the point.

I was wondering if I could impose on you to take a few minutes and review Articles for deletion/List of fictional diseases. I seem to be of the minority point of view and maybe you could either add support to keeping the list or help me see where I might be totally off base in my thinking. Thank you in advance.

Additionally I would like to thank you for your previous assistance with Ram Dbiel (Talk) 01:44, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

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Signpost updated for March 13th and 17th, 2008.
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Signpost updated for March 24th, 2008.
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Signpost updated for March 31st, 2008.
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Signpost updated for April 7th and 14th, 2008.
Sorry, it seems that the bot quit before completing its run last week. Here is the last two weeks' worth of Signpost. Ralbot (talk) 08:52, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

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Signpost updated for April 21st, 2008.
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Signpost updated for May 2nd and 9th, 2008.
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Signpost updated for May 12th, 2008.
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Signpost updated for May 19th and 26th, 2008.
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Signpost updated for June 2, 2008.
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