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''Since the UN consider the Golan Heights occupied, we should too. If we consider the Golan Heights occupied (as we should) then there IS a water-border on the east coast of Lake Tiberias. ''

-you are almost right - except that there IS NO water-border between the Golan Heights and Lake Tiberias. The international border which seperates the Galilee region from the Golan Heights, is EAST of Lake Tiberias. Actually, All water resources of the Galilee (including river Jordan & Lake Tiberias) are WEST of that line. This was set on purpose to avoid a case when an entity controls the Galilee but not its water resources. For your information, in the area you mentioned (North-eastern shore of Lake Tiberias) the international border runs 10-meter east of the high-watermark of the Lake. -Anonymous, 19:53, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

No you are almost right. :) Read this for a very detailed explanation: . In short, 1923-1948 the whole of the Sea of Galile (Lake Tiberias) was inside Palestine. Syria occupied the north eastern shore in 1948 and controlled it until 1967, some other areas nerby became DMZ:s. Then Israel occupied it. Map here: [ http://www.passia.org/palestine_facts/MAPS/Israel_Syria_demilitarized_zones.htm]. But all this is not relevant since the Sea of Galilee is not a sea and has no coastline. Shoreline of you want, but no coastline. Create a username so I can move this discussion there. Palestine-info 00:48, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

If you get into it, you can see that according to the Israeli-Syrian armestice agreement, Syria was to retreat from All territories occupied WEST of the international border. According to the agreement, those areas will become DMZ's - i.e Israel will not put military into it, however Israeli population & Israeli police are permitted. So, when Syria retreated to the international line, it was (in the area of north-eastern shore of Lake Tiberias) only 10-meters east of the high water-mark, so it's almost you're controlling the shoreline, but you're not... (the map link you gave it's good, except it doesn't draw the international line in the north eastern shore.. why? but anyway you can see that all territories occupied by Syria from Israel became Israeli DMZs) In any way, the political entity of the "Golan Heights" ends in the west in the international line, which lies EAST of all water resources, including any shoreline & river ... 9:10 15 Oct 2004, UTC

No most of the areas that Syria occupied became DMZ:s in the armistice agreement. Syria retained the north-eastern shore of the lake:

"Under the armistice agreement of 20 July, 1949, most of the areas of the former Palestine mandate which Syria controlled, as well as, in the south, some adjacent lands which were Israeli-controlled, became demilitarised zones (DMZs). Their final status was to be resolved at a later date. Syria retained direct control over the north-east shore of the Sea of Galilee: there was no DMZ there." 

Also:

"1. It is emphasised that the following arrangements for the Armistice Demarcation Line between the Israeli and Syrian armed forces and for the Demilitarised Zone are not to be interpreted as having any relation whatsoever to ultimate territorial arrangements affecting the two Parties to this Agreement." 

And more from that link. And those areas were demarcation lines with unresolved final status. Therefore, Syria would have as much claim to them as Israel. Palestine-info 13:43, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Ambassador Dore Gold
Is Dore Gold an Israeli ambassador? And what does it matter, anyway?


 * "Ambassador Dore Gold is President of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs. He was the eleventh Permanent Representative of Israel to the United Nations (1997-1999). Previously he served as Foreign Policy Advisor to the former Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu."

Is this worth getting into an edit war? --user:Ed Poor (porous reed) 16:11, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I don't reason in those terms. Instead I ask myself which version of the text would be best for Wikipedia. Which version is most neutral, most informative, easiest to read? See Talk:Medical Aid for Palestinians for more information on why mentioning Dore Gold's affilations is important. Palestine-info 01:17, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

WP:3RR
WP:3RR includes partial reverts, reverts to different previous versions and slightly-reworded reverts - otherwise it would be meaningless. See discussion on WP:AN and its archives.

Please also note that getting to three reverts means something is seriously wrong and it should be sorted out on the talk page. In fact, more than one revert on an article in a day is probably too much - David Gerard 18:14, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * You have been blocked again for the 3RR rule. Please do not revert a page more than 3 times in 24 hours -- Chris 73 Talk 05:35, Jan 21, 2005 (UTC)

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