User talk:Palestine48

 

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Slightly more personal welcome
Hi, welcome to Wikipedia. Nice to see that we have someone also who doesn't focus on controversial things so much. I've seen many of your edits, and they are generally very good. Welcome, I hope you'll stay here! --Daniel575 | (talk) 13:12, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Good cooperation on Orient House resulted in sensible compromises by both sides and factual descriptions in the article. Thanks! --Gabi S. 10:21, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Welcome too
Though I want some credit on the user page which you borrowed from me somewhat, right ? :) Also btw on the Orient House my uploaded picture ;). Btw, you haven't answered my question - is the arabic name for settlements include jaffa, haifa and so on ? Becuase if it does, it's not in the correct article which deals only with green line. Amoruso 15:09, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey, Amoruso. Thanks for the Orient House picture it enhanced the level of the article. Cheers for the user page stuff, it kick started me in the right direction (i no longer need it :P ). As to the answer to your question, the arabic name for settlements DOSE NOT include jaffa, haifa. The word Mustamaraat or Mustawtanaat deals only with green line. Palestine4816:14, 16 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I see you changed the userpage, it's very nice. I see you also borrowed the "return" phrase :) nice twist. Thanks for the reply. If you come to Palestine/Israel again, maybe one day we can meet in peace. Cheers. Amoruso 16:16, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

internal links
You don't have to add a _ between words for internal links; a simple link with double [ and double ] will automatically end up right, with the spaces in it. (Concerning this edit) I agree that more pics might be nice, but on the other hand, Wikipedia isn't a photo gallery. We could add hundreds of pics... I would want to, but I doubt whether others agree. --Daniel575 | (talk) 12:59, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree, too many pictures will spoil the article, I am just suggesting a wider selection of photos to widen the readers impression of the city. A limit to the number and quality of pictures should be set, inline with each subsection . Palestine48 15:32, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

the [Jews] are excluded from conducting services there...
dear Palestine48,

you wrote "What about Western Wall and underground Synagogues (all part of al-Haram al-Sharif or Temple Mount)??)" the Jews at the Western Wall pray in the large plaza (formerly mugrabi neighborhood) adjacent to the Haram; they in no way penetrate the area of the Haram. there are even those amongst the more strictly Orthodox that take care not to put their fingers between the stones of the Wall so they wouldn't enter the Haram even sightly.

and which "underground Synagogues" do you refer to? if you mean the Western Wall Tunnel, i know that it doesn't penetrate the Western Wall by even the slightest - i dug there, participating in the archeological excavations, and I'm generally very familiar with the area.

hope to read your reply,

Shilonite 14:30, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Dear Shilonite, I think i was out of focus in regards to the underground tunnel . My point is that you used the word "excluded". Is this true or not in terms of Israeli police/IDF? and can you provide a source? Is this true or not in terms of the Waqf? and can you provide a source? Also,those who are exluded why are they exluded?. I think the information can be better prsented in the Modern significance subsection.

Palestine48 15:56, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Palestinians dead
For some time now I am suggesting a site with all the names of killed palestinians since the stat of the intifada, do you have any soruces?


 * i suggest you browse through http://www.palestinemonitor.org/factsheet/Palestinian_intifada_fact_sheet.htm but what i found very informing is this site: http://www.pnic.gov.ps/arabic/shohada/shohada.html (if you don't read arabic i can help out).

Palestine48 03:26, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * r u administrator, do we have sites here, do you have in your land? Administrators? Ok, but that site should be on wiki. Can you find out, some people in israel told me, then lebanon israeli conflict, there are more than 119 dead israeli soldiers, can you find out how many for real died, especially from wounds later on?>


 * No I am not an administrator, if i understood you correctly i agree that an artice to the subject discussed above must be included in Wikipedia. As for the Israeli Soldiers killed i can get the number but what are your plans ? are you registered at Wiki and how can i help you more."إذا عندك أي مشكلة في فهم الإنجليزية يمكنك المشاركة بلعربية على هذه الصفحة."

Palestine48 01:56, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello
Sorry for the late response, but I just wanted to say hi and welcome to WP. As you probably noticed, a lot of articles could use a lot of help, so I'm glad to see you on board. While I'm unable to be as active as I used to be (for the time being), I look forward to working and collaborating with you. هل زرت فلسطين مؤخراً؟؟ Ramallite (talk) 14:17, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks mate, i was planning to start a list of palestinian dead from 1948-present and to expand the Westbank cities articles amongst other things. .لا، و لكن أخطت لزيارة في صيف 2007

Palestine48 16:02, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Palestinian dead
I just read article over 800 kids were killed by israelis... I like the truth, israel is not tellig much... and I need exact dead of israeli soldiers in lebanon, is it really 119, what about dead from wounds? I am a historian and somebody who likes to see truth told, I am neutral in this conflict but... after Arafat died your people are truly suffering, israel and usa said, it will be better, he was obstacle to peace, that is not so now, so where do you leave? You can call me George. Yea, do we have any websites on dead palestinians? I am otherwise historian. Let me know soon. We need to fight for truth and justice especially on wiki. I have found many incorrect things on Arafat and much more which I corrected and so far it seems to be ok.


 * Thank you for your intrest George, as for Israeli soldiers killed, the number i have is 119 (from IDF) and 130 (from Hizbulah sources). the websites i have on dead palestinian i listed above. Thanks for your kind words of support. Just out of intrest, where are you from George. I am British and I live in the UK.

Palestine48 22:44, 4 October 2006 (UTC) Hello, i do not reply often, I am a historian, so anything of this sorts interests me, i have many friends in israel, but even they do not agree with this garbage what's sharon-omert doing, they are criminals, i wonder why nobody does anything against them. And yea, so far I have not seen anything about palestinian casualties, do you have any? Hows life in england, many immigrants, harder to find job?

Dhabiha Halal
Hello, I've found alot of the edits you've made to the dhabiha halal page to be non-neutral POV. Thus I am tagging the page.Starwarp2k2 21:30, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I can't see why you would do so, can you give me a reason to why you tagged it?

Palestine48 22:25, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I'll be glad to clarify
 * Also the Dhabiĥa of Christians of the present age are lacking in Islamic methods and contradict Muslim belief, thus making their Dhabiĥa Haraam
 * That is a statement of opinion and of your interpretation. There are many people who can and DO beleive otherwise.


 * As for the Jews, they too lack certain in Islamic methods and leave out the Takbeer (saying: God is Great) and change the method of Dhabiĥa, thus, even their slaughter is considered Haraam.
 * Who considers it haraam? You? Everyone? I know many people consider it halal, rendering your statement not only POV, but also incorrect.

Starwarp2k2 17:34, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * You have a valid point to some extent, the Jammah (Majority) Opinion state that if no Halal meat is available then, you can eat meat and poultry slaughtered by People of The Book (except for unclean animals).


 * What I am trying to say is that it is Haraam to consume meat slaughtered by present day people of the book (unless they are religious i.e. practising believers and they declare the name of God before slaughter of each animal).


 * As for People of the Book working in Islamic slaughterhouses, if they are practising Jews and Christians and they fellow the Islamic method of slaughter then there is no harm in that.

Palestine48 12:26, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I know exactly what you are trying to say, but what you are trying to say is your opinion, not undisputable fact.Starwarp2k2 07:03, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I have to disagree with you on one point and agree with you on another. It is true that my contribution to the article is not a clear undisputed fact but at the same time it is not just my opinion, a considerable number of Muslims believe in what I stated in my previous posts. I suggest that both schools of thought should be clearly represented.

Palestine48 09:00, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I hold no hard feelings against you or your edits, and I hope that is mutual.Starwarp2k2 20:31, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Please vote
Please take a look at Stub types for deletion/Log/2006/October/16. It seems that some people want to remove any reference to Palestine. --Hossein.ir 12:37, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I put a comment in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Islam:The Muslim Guild too. Is there any wikiproject about Palestine.--Sa.vakilian 18:37, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you Sa.vaklilian please spread the word. BTW, I edited some Islam related articles and i hope to join the guild soon to help out more ishallah.--Palestine48 00:59, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I've put an extremely POV article on AFD
The article Policide gives is very POV on the Arab-Israeli conflict. Please let know your opinion! Count Iblis 13:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Dear Count, the article mentioned above surprised me because the term policide or polycide is closely related to engineering not politics and it can be confused by the term:Policied (from policy). I think accepting this term will cause confusion. I suggest you maintain the article but replace the term with civicide which would be a more appropriate and established term. i define civicide below:


 * " civicide : The willful and intention destruction of a great city, including murder and exile of its inhabitants. Policide, the willful and intentional destruction of a nation, can be used as a synonym — polis is the Greek word for "city."
 * Rome's destruction of Carthage is an ancient example of civicide; Washington's abandonment of flood- and hurricane-ravaged New Orleans is apparently a modern one.  see the Urban Dictionary

-- Palestine48 10:51, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Third holiest site in Islam AfD debate
I've nominated this article for deletion Third_holiest_site_in_Islam, and would appreciate your comments on the matter.--Amerique 04:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

My reply was as follow:


 * This is extraordinary; again the same gang of Pro-Israelis is misusing wikipedia for their own agenda. The article in question is very dubious and serves no good faith purpose other than doubting Al Quds-Jerusalem’s place in Islam. It is widely accepted between Muslims (Sunni and Shi’a) that Al Quds is the 3rd Holiest city of Islam even the vast majority of Shi’a state this loud and clear and they regard the Mosque of Ali (AS) as the 4th holiest mosque/city. Now, a few point towards the facts:


 * It is the Place where Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) ascended into the Heavens ("Israa and Miraaj).
 * In the Holy Qur’an, in the first verse of Chapter 17 entitled 'The Children of Israel / Bani Israel. '
 *  "Glory to Allah, Who did take His servant for a journey by night, from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque, whose precincts We did bless - in order that We might show him some of Our signs. For He is the One who hears and knows all things."  (17:1) Qur’an


 * Jerusalem was the first "Qibla" for ALL Muslims.


 * Prophet Mohammed said: “"There are only three mosques to which you should embark on a journey: the sacred mosque (Mekkah), this mosque of mine (Madinah), and the mosque of Al-Aqsa (Al-Quds)”.


 * Since Muslims believe in Prophets Moses, David, Solomon and Jesus, then they also recognise the sacredness and importance of Jerusalem in Islam.


 * The site of the Haram al Shareef (temple Mount) was a garbage dump, a dunghill for the people of Jerusalem. But Caliph Omar, upon learning this was the site of the Masjid of Al Quds-Jerusalem cleaned the place with his own hands and put his forehead in payer on that ground.


 * Muslims rule of this city was longest out of the three faiths (Islam, Christianity and Judaism), this proves that Muslims regarded the city with respect and sanctity.


 * Many Muslim scholars also migrated and settled in the city.


 * Add to that the Google search experiment it becomes clear that the only SANE option here is to delete this article.

As for the other supposedly third holiest sites, they can be mentioned (if referenced thoroughly) as part of Jerusalem’s religious significance or as a foot note in Al-Quds article since the other sites significance represent a largely non Muslim misconception. The points I listed above distinguish Jerusalem from the other suggested sites. Palestine48 06:40, 25 October 2006


 * Please help resolving the disputes at Al-Aqsa Mosque and Dome of the Rock articles. You may have a look at the discussion page to have an idea on what has been going on recently. Thanks! Almaqdisi 06:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, inshllah i will give it my best. Palestine48 07:01, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Allegations of Israeli apartheid
Hello, please keep an eye on this talk as User:SlimVirgin is attempting to skew the article. Thanks Arniep 14:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, i will keep an eye on it, however, I will be busy for most of November. Palestine48 19:08, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Salam
Welcome to Wikipedia. Nice edits you did. Cheers. --Thameen 10:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Salam. Thank you, i try my best to keep things even in wikipedia and represent Palestine in a fair way, I hope to see you around. --Palestine48 19:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Salam, would you mind entering an email address in your preferences so I can contact you? BhaiSaab talk 05:05, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Salam, I've added a gmail e-mail which i can be contacted on by wikipedians (take a look at my user page) --Palestine48 08:37, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Nurit Peled-Elhanan
Hello! I would appreciate your feedback and help on the above article. Thank you. Tidaress 08:05, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Hello there, I've read the article, it is very interesting. I will try to find more information about this woman, I would even consider a page about notable Israelis criticising the state of Israel in detail. --Palestine48 08:37, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Is it voting?
Look at this:. Is it it a force deployment or voting? Please give your opinion about this. --Hossein.ir 20:06, 12 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for bringing this to my attention I gave an opinion to delete I hope we agree on this one. --Palestine48 14:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

You helped choose Islam as this week's WP:AID winner
Dev920(Mind voting here?) 15:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Note from Muhammad mediation
Hi there, I am just dropping you a note because you signed up to participate at Talk:Muhammad/Mediation. We have not heard from you since we started, so I'm just asking whether you plan to participate further. If so, we need you to agree or disagree to the criteria for including images we have developed. Important note: The criteria will be used only if the group decides to include images, which will be later in the mediation. Agreeing to the criteria does not mean that you agree to including any images. Thanks! -- Aguerriero  ( talk ) 23:16, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for informing me. It did slip my mind for a moment but i will add my thoughts in the next day or two. I have read what was written so far and i wish to contribute to the mediation. --Palestine48 05:13, 18 November 2006

Arafat
It is a shame that wiki can never be truly a correct place for information. Y Arafat, some people, including me, tried to put the link which explains his death and death certificate, that he was possibly born in Jerusalem, certain anti palestinian people are reverting that, something needs to be done about that...

Talk:Muhammad/Mediation
Just to notify that mediation has renewed at the Muhammad article, after a delay due to Ars Scriptor's leaving, in case you still wanted to participate. I'll be the mediator, but I may call in help from someone more experienced later. | A ndonic O Talk · Sign Here 13:31, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi Palestine48,

Let's all join the discussion of the Antisemitism page and solve the article's POV problem. It is an important article. --Aminz 09:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. It is a serious topic that requires accurate information. I will post my thoughts on the talk page as soon as possible. ~Palestine48 09:14, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

This is a thread of discussion. Cheers, --Aminz 09:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Palestine-bio-stub
The Palestine-bio-stub stub is currently being discussed at WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries/Log/2007/March because it was not created via the proposal process at WP:WSS/P. It risks being deleted because it is not transcluded on many pages (currently 10). You might want to participate in the discussion. Typically a stub category needs 60 stubs to survive, otherwise it gets merged into the next level up in the stub hierarchy. &mdash; jmorgan (talk) 23:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * May I ask you why you are adding stubs to big articles like Yasser Arafat and Mahmoud Abbas. Do you mind if I remove them from articles > 5kb ?? Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Palestine
Hi, How about putting together a WP Palestine? I found that there was already a project page, but with nothing much on it. WikiProject_Palestine Are you interested in bringing it to life? --Fjmustak 20:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

40 years for occupation
maybe u'll find this intersting. enjoy it, Doronef 01:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

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