User talk:Palestine liberator

Please review Wikipedia's policy on Neutral point of view before making massive and potentially abusive changes to articles. Please note that your deletion of the Israel article has been revised, and just the name you use has perked up ears and will cause people to watch your changes with suspicion. RickK 19:08, 2 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Wikipedia adheres to a NPOV policy. You can try http://www.internet-encyclopedia.org to further your views. You should be welcome there. --Jiang

--- NPOV sounds like a code word for zionism. None of your articles are "neutral." They are all from the Zionist perspective. My articles are neutral.

Knock it off with the "NO ZIONIST" comments -- Its a certain way to get yourself blocked. As for not deleting articles -- improving your behaviour, thats fine -- just be rational (and in some cases, patient) about it.

I dont think there is any such thing as Israeli-Palestinian neutrality myself, but just be respectful, and keep a cool head. The stronger argument will get support, provided you have minimal rhetorical artifacts in the record. As a general rule, I'd suggest add more, rather than focus on cutting away -- back up your material, and be prepared with clarity, reason, and facts to any challenges that will certainly come your way. You will eventually learn (as everyone does) that there is no ownership to any wikipages, and that there is no ownership of history. Welcome to Wikipedia. I hope you enjoy your time here and decide to stay. -- &#25140;&#30505sv 06:34, Aug 4, 2003 (UTC)

-- I can see that you're a mature and articulate advocate of your cause, laying out very convincing arguments involving poo poo and wee wees. 172 08:20, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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Please read the NPOV policy again. We are neither pro- nor anti-Zionist, nor pro- or anti-Palestinian.

-- Karada 11:35, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 * Where there is universal consensus, we say "X is so".
 * Where there is some dissent from general consensus, we say "Most people think X, A says Y".
 * Where this is little or no consensus, we way "A says X is so, B says Y is so, C says Z is so"... Issues such as Israel/Palestine belong to this third case.

By the way, is it just me, or does User:Palestine liberator sound a bit like Michael? -- Karada 11:35, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Dear Palestine liberator, just so we're clear you don't actually own either your user page or your user talk page, the idea that I can edit this page only after agreeing to your rules is silly. I'm not sure who does own this page, I guess either the Wikimedia foundation or Bomis.com but one thing's for sure, it's not you.

As you've probably noticed by now anything that you add is quite quickly removed. It might just be me but if in a weeks time no articles contain any material added by you then aren't you just wasting your time? If you sincerely believe that the project has a pro-Israeli stance and that a fair version of events isn't being told then why not add some facts to balance things out a bit. I'm sure there have been atrocities committed by the Israelis and UN resolutions passed against Israel which they are ignoring which are not reported here. I'm also sure that the same could be said of the Palestinians but my point is that if you truly think there is an imbalance then you have the ability to try and change that. Which would presumably be less of a waste of your time.

Perhaps what I've just written will have changed your opinion, or perhaps like with most of the vandals we get here it won't make a blind bit of difference. Anyway, the choice is yours -- Ams80 11:52, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)

-- I will stop messing with pages without permission. I will stop making rules on my page. However, I still want to be able to have others sign the list I'm starting agreeing that Zionism is racism.

I agree Zionism = racism
 * user Palestine liberator

Dear Palestinian: i sympathize with your views, i also think you would do them better justice if you invest your time and inteligence in writing serious articles instead of trying to input POV setences in others. Best wishes, Muriel Gottrop 12:20, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)

- I agree that wiki doesn't always have NPOV, but just don't willfully vandelize pages. user:131.216.163.203 - See User talk:Palestinian liberator/ban page. Long live Palestine.