User talk:Pamcchange

Your submission at Articles for creation: C-Change Conversations (June 10)
 Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:C-Change_Conversations Articles for creation help desk] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Theroadislong was: This submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: just advertising

Theroadislong (talk) 15:52, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

paid editing
Hello Pamcchange. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Pamcchange. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Theroadislong (talk) 15:53, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

I do not have a financial stake in promoting this topic nor am I a paid editor. Pamcchange (talk) 14:32, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: C-Change Conversations (August 22)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Timtrent were:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to User:Pamcchange/sandbox/C-Change Conversations and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to User:Pamcchange/sandbox/C-Change Conversations, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "Db-g7" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
 * If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
 * If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User:Pamcchange/sandbox/C-Change_Conversations Articles for creation help desk], on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Timtrent&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User:Pamcchange/sandbox/C-Change_Conversations reviewer's talk page] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Fiddle Timtrent Faddle Talk to me 21:38, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

August 2021
As previously advised, your edits give the impression you have a financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. You were asked to cease editing until you responded by either stating that you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits, or by complying with the mandatory requirements under the Wikimedia Terms of Use that you disclose your employer, client and affiliation. Again, you can post such a disclosure on your user page at User:Pamcchange, and the template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. Please respond before making any other edits to Wikipedia. Fiddle Timtrent Faddle Talk to me 21:39, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

You still have not adequately responded or taken action to the inquiry regarding your appearance as an undisclosed paid editor. If you make any additional edits without complying you may be blocked from editing. ''You are ignoring these formal notices. You may not ignore them.'' Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 20:11, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

I do not have a financial stake in the promotion of this topic nor am I a paid editor. Pamcchange (talk) 14:31, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You have said previously that you are a volunteer at C-Change-Conversations, Wikipedia considers that to be paid editing and you will need to make the required disclosure on your user page. Theroadislong (talk) 14:40, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

I am not sure I understand how being a volunteer is considered a paid editor. What exactly do I need to disclose? Thanks. Pamcchange (talk) 16:59, 27 August 2021 (UTC)


 * As a volunteer you receive some form of benefit from the organisation, broadly construed. I volunteer for organisations. I get a good feeling from doing so, plus the benefits of belonging. Broadly construed, writing an article in them woudl be paid editing and I would  make that  disclosure. Even Mother Teresa got a benefit from her voluntary work  Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 22:25, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Understood, thank you. Pamcchange (talk) 19:06, 28 August 2021 (UTC)


 * You need to do this properly. Please read again the notices and do what they ask. The template you have used (above) is for the talk page of the draft itself.
 * needs to go, filled out correctly, on your user page Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 08:06, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:C-Change Conversations has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:C-Change Conversations. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 20:21, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:C-Change Conversations
Hello, Pamcchange. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:C-Change Conversations, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 21:01, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:C-Change Conversations 2
Hello, Pamcchange. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:C-Change Conversations 2, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 23:01, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:C-Change Conversations


Hello, Pamcchange. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "C-Change Conversations".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 22:52, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:C-Change Conversations 2


Hello, Pamcchange. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "C-Change Conversations 2".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 23:00, 28 February 2022 (UTC)