User talk:Pangsm1

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May 2013
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Nomination of Pierre Joseph-Dubois for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pierre Joseph-Dubois is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Pierre Joseph-Dubois (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. T 88 R (talk) 19:30, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

August 2013
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at User:GiantSnowman. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. GiantSnowman 19:24, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

You voted for my page to be deleted. You have destroyed my work.

'''Before you start voting for my page to be deleted yon need to grow up. You wasted all my efforts and have potentially reduced a professional footballer from getting exposure online with clubs. Player Pierre Joseph-Dubois in particular. Here are the facts you missed or could not be bothered to research.'''

He did play you have got it wrong http://www.royals.org/matdoc/251006.html

'''I CREATED THIS PAGE AND MY TIME HAS BEEN WASTED, PEOPLE VOTED SHOULD GET THEIR FACTS CORRECT FIRST. OPEN THE LINK AND YOU WILL SEE HIS NAME AS A UNUSED SUB AS I MENTIONED. EAT YOUR HAT.'''

Reading: Bikey (75 mins), Lita (81 mins), Long (85 mins). Liverpool: Fowler (44 mins), Riise (45 mins), Paletta (50 mins), Crouch (77 mins).

Reading: Stack, De la Cruz, Gunnarsson (Sodje 83), Ingimarsson, Halls, Little, Bikey, Oster, Hunt, Lita, Long. Subs Not Used: Hahnemann, Hayes, Osano, Joseph-Dubois.

Liverpool: Reina, Peltier (Smith 74), Paletta, Agger, Warnock, Pennant, Sissoko (Guthrie 62), Zenden, Riise (Kuyt 79), Fowler, Crouch. Subs Not Used: Martin, Carragher.


 * He was a "sub not used" (as your own source says!) which means he did NOT play... GiantSnowman 20:02, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes I never said he DID played. Hence can't understand why the page was deleted. Under his bio it explained that he was picked for the first team but was a unsed sub. You are seriously a job's worth. Do you actually read before you comment or are you some student who has nothing better to do than make wiki his job. If you don't know anything about football don't get involved. The transfer window is open and you have compromised his exposure. --User:pangsm1User talk:pangsm1
 * The article was deleted because the player is not notable - per both WP:GNG (as he has not received significant coverage in reliable, independent sources) and WP:NFOOTBALL (he has never played in a fully-professional league.
 * Out of interest, what do you mean "compromised his exposure" - are you his agent or somesuch? I'd like to remind you that Wikipedia is not for advertising or promotion. GiantSnowman 08:57, 7 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Wiki is for information. The information provided was correct under his bio. I have contacted Reading FC and they confirmed that he did go to Liverpool as the match report says and was not used. Under his bio i explained that he was was picked but not used. For any yong player that is a massive achievement regardless of his luck or if his playing career did not progress. Plus he's only 25 so it lift off. He was at Reading club FACT, he got picked to go to Liverpool with the first team FACT he did not play FACT so why can't he say or express his bio. This does not take away the fact that he was picked to go to Liverpool. Self advertising yours or another persons success or experience is not not forbidden. People use wiki for information source and if the information or experience is correct then it should stay on wiki. No I am not his agent. I think you have realised that you have made an error. --User:pangsm1User talk:pangsm1


 * A general Wiki is for information - Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, therefore only encylopedic articles about notable subjects will be included. This player is not-notable. Nobody is doubting that he was an unused substitute - what we are doubting is his notability. He has never played at a professional level, has not received significant coverage, and therefore is not notabl - just another one of many players who nearly made it but never it. Oh, and "Self advertising yours or another persons success or experience [sic]" definitely IS forbidded - see WP:ADVERT and WP:AUTOBIO. Out of interest, are you the player in question? GiantSnowman 09:37, 7 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes and the information provided was correct. There are lots of conference level or below players who are not considered professional in the football world however they are on wiki. In this case I created a page about a player who came out of reading academy/reserve who now plays at Bromley FC where he was player of the year 2012/2013 season after scoring 22 goals, however while at Reading he was picked to go play against Liverpool. Regarding self advertising or another success I say it in the metaphorical example of celebration of an experience. For example whether wiki likes it or not when you mention an experience like goal record or event it is actually a form of advertising it as it appears on search engines or search mediums however this page was to provide information about this player which some people may not know. I am a fan of Pierre as I follow his matches. --User:pangsm1User talk:pangsm1
 * Information being correct does not make it notable. Just because other articles exist does not make this individual any more notable. I have tried to explain as best I can but it does not seem to get through to you, so I suggest you take this article to deletion review. GiantSnowman 10:08, 7 August 2013 (UTC)