User talk:Panionios1890

Hellenic Parliament
You've removed what few sources that article that article had and just dumped a load more univerfied stuff into the article. Take a look at WP:CCPOL, Verifiablity. You're asking everyone to to just accept you mystically waving your hand and telling everyone to just believe what you say is true. That's not how wikipedia works.

If you've got sources (Like say those standing orders you mentioned), pop links to them into the article as references, please. If you need assistance in how to do this, please ask me, I'll happily help you. Please show some evidence for your claims in accordance with policy. Dolescum (talk) 10:27, 9 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I've just popped back after a wikibreak and taken a look at your subsequent work on the Hellenic Parliament article. Thanks for sourcing stuff, those look great! Dolescum (talk) 09:15, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

PASOK/DIMAR issue
I'm bringing this issue to your talk page because you seem keen on not wishing to obtain a consensus on the Panhellenic Socialist Movement and Democratic Left articles. Yes, Democratic Coalition elected 17 MPs, but that was the joint list between PASOK and DIMAR. PASOK did not elect 17 MPs. DIMAR did not elect 17 MPs. Democratic Coalition did. Now, I believe the issue was pretty much solved with the addition of your Note saying "As part of the Democratic Coalition Parliamentary Group". Yes, PASOK has 16 MPs as part of the Democratic Coalition Parliamentary Group. And yes, DIMAR has 1 MP as part of the Democratic Coalition Parliamentary Group. But PASOK has not 17 MPs as part of the Democratic Coalition Parliamentary Group, neither DIMAR has.

You must distinguish between what is a party and what is a coalition. Yes, PASOK did elect 16 MPs under the DC banner, not 17. And equally, yes, DIMAR did elect 1 MP under the DC banner, not 17. The DC banner comprises both PASOK and DIMAR, and it's pretty obvious each of them did not elect 17 MPs (a total of 34) when the total number for both is 17. Parties =/= coalitions, they are different things. I think this is quite obvious and clear; don't understand why you keep reverting all edits and don't seem to reach a compromise solution. Impru20 (talk) 20:49, 8 October 2015 (UTC)


 * There are no PASOK MPs. There are no DIMAR MPs. They were all elected as part of the Democratic Coalition, irrespective from where they came from. The Hellenic Parliament website does not make this distinction. It considers them all DC MPs. There is no asterisk on their website saying this one comes from PASOK or this one comes from DIMAR. They are all DC MPs. Not DC-PASOK MPs and DC-DIMAR MPs. panionios1890


 * What you are saying has no sense. You are mixing together coalition and Parliamentary Group results with party results when those have nothing to do. A coalition may be composed of several parties. A Parliamentary Group may be formed by several parties. You, right now, are saying that PASOK and DIMAR have 17 MPs each within the DC Group has it stands now. So, I've directly deleted the "Seat" section from those two parties' infoboxes and placed a direct link to Democratic Coalition page until a solution can be found. PASOK has not 17 MPs as part of the DC group. DIMAR has not 17 MPs as part of the DC group. There are not 34 MPs between PASOK and DIMAR. They don't have 17 MPs each. Both PASOK and DIMAR have not 17 MPs each. This is very simple to understand, I believe. So, stop pushing forward your plain wrong edit and come here to talk for a compromise solution, since I'm trying to just for the data to be shown right. You can't add wrong data to the Wikipedia just because you feel like it. Discuss the issue.
 * Right now, what I have done is to point up that both parties are integrated within the Democratic Coalition. And, through accessing the Democratic Coalition article, you'll be able to see the full Coalition results. I believe this would be much more accurate than saying that both parties have 17 MPs within the DC group, which is obviously wrong. Impru20 (talk) 10:02, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

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