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I'm reverting your edits to the articles like Hari Singh Nalwa, because they seem to consist of deliberate misinofrmation, original research and improper formatting.


 * Hari Singh Nalwa -- please don't provide misleading edit summaries ("Added extra references and corrected wrong historical facts") -- you didn't not add a single reference. All the books mention that Hari Singh Nalwa was born in Gujranwala. If you've a reliable source for your statement that he was born in "Jammu Kashmir", please provide it. Again, these books state that he was born in an Uppal Khatri family -- please provide a source for your assertion that he was a "Narwa Mazhabi Sikh".


 * Mazhabi -- please provide a reference for statements added by you ("The mazhabis enjoy high religious status in Sikhism", "The Mazhabis descend from Baba Jivan Singh Ji", "Historically it is known that the Mazbhis descend from Rajputs (Khasatryias)", "These mazbhis are considered to be the peoples from the Dravidan races captured in battle and enslaved by Aryan invaders on the Indian sub continent.". Also, please have a look at the wiki formatting and have a look at WP:INTRO.


 * Bhai Mati Das -- can you please provide the quote where Bhai Gurdas writes that "Bhai Mati Das was a Mazhabi Sikh"? Books by multiple authors (Fauja Singh, Bakhshish Singh, Hari Ram Gupta, Gurbachan Singh Talib, O. P. Ralha etc.) state that he was a Mohyal.

Please take time to read Reliable sources, No original research and Neutral point of view. utcursch | talk 02:18, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, and if you disagree with the above-mentioned authors/books, here's what the SGPC website has to say about Hari Singh Nalwa's birthplace: "He was born in 1781 at Gujranwala (now in Pakistan)". utcursch | talk 17:02, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

March 2009
Please do not add content without citing reliable sources. Before making potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. If you are familiar with Citing sources please take this opportunity to add references to the article. utcursch | talk 15:30, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. utcursch | talk 15:36, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Please don't create sockpuppet/meatpuppet accounts. For the umpteenth time, have a look at No original research, and find a reliable source. utcursch | talk 15:48, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text  below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first.

Kind regards to whom ever this concerns. Panthkhalsa (talk) 17:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

The problem
Many of the secondary sources that utcursch is using are them selves disputed, and are subject to debate by both hired and independent historians. What one has to notice is that there are many different versions of accounts on history and in order for an article to be neutral as i believe you have this policy; all claims have to be stated. Fair enough, you are saying that secondary sources are nessesary,i agree, but these secondary sources cant be disputed them selves, and even if still used their disputed status must be addressed on the article, to inform readers. Panthkhalsa (talk) 02:48, 14 March 2009 (UTC)