User talk:Panzak7

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Your contributed article, Panzak7
Hello, I notice that you recently created a new page, Panzak7. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as yourself. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page - User:Panzak7. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will to continue helping improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at User:Panzak7 - you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

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Welcome!
Welcome to Wikipedia, Panzak7! I have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on or by typing helpme at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Oh yeah, I almost forgot, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on, or place helpme on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! — Ed  (talk  •  majestic titan)  05:09, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
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Welcome to the Contemporary Music Project
Thank you for joining. If you have any questions about the project or specific tasks, please ask on the talk page. (I am the co-ordinator of the project so you can also ask me anything on my talk page.) Note that the project is often refered to by the shortcut WP:CTM. We look forward to working with you --Jubilee♫ clipman  03:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
comments left on the talk page of the article. Nice job at this. Very interesting, and informative. You've got some details and a few more things to clean up. Auntieruth55 (talk) 20:34, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

October (Concert Band)
Sorry I haven't responded until now: I have been away. I'll have a look at the article over the next few days and give feedback. Auntieruth55's feedback (linked above) is pretty good, though, so acting on that would be a good start. I'll give you a hand on "de-orphaning" etc as well, if you have trouble. Cheers --Jubilee♫ clipman  20:27, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of October (Concert Band)
I have nominated October (Concert Band), an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/October (Concert Band). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Student7 (talk) 20:23, 16 April 2010 (UTC)


 * It would appear that you are a serious editor. I was about to ask the admins for "special attention" for your case, which would be the threat of blocking.


 * There are millions of students in the world, all of whom could use a good editor. There are venues for this. Wikipedia is not it. Please see WP:NOT, particularly What_Wikipedia_is_not. Student7 (talk) 17:59, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Using Wikipedia for class assignments
Student7 may have worded his message a bit harshly, but he's right. Wikipedia is not the place for writing papers to "keep up your GPA". I understand that grades are very important and all, but consider creating a free website for this purpose (such as 110MB.com or Webs.com) and write the article there instead. Otherwise, just type it all up in a word processor and hand in the document when it's time. …Grayshi talk ■ my contribs 20:41, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

deletion problem
Kein panik. Keep working on it, adding sources, and get one of the people in the deletion discussion to help you. Collaboration is good. You're doing fine. (do turn off the caps, however!) Collaboration will help your grade, not hurt it. Auntieruth55 (talk) 15:57, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well said, Autieruth. I found the suggestion that other editors working on the article would cause Katelyn to get lower marks to be bizarre.  That isn't even how things are done in the real world!  But WP works by collaboration so this assignment must have taken that fact into account otherwise it would be an invalid exercise.
 * Panzak7 - I have flagged the article for rescue and will try to help you as much as I can. I have so far found it difficult to source, however, so this won't be an easy task.  Then again, finding sources even for well-known modern composers is a difficult task... I should know since (during the recent BLP stormfire: ask Aunty...) I recently nominated several for deletion, got told off for nominating "such major figures", then found several people backing me up after they actually attempted to source those articles.  Eventually I withdrew the nominations and spent weeks sourcing them and almost 120 other unsourced living composer articles.  All but a very small number were sourced, those than weren't were either blatantly non-notable (and deleted) or are still hanging around the dusty corners of the site awaiting references.  See WikiProject Contemporary music/Unreferenced BLPs, for those latter...  BTW, you could do worse than click on the links supplied very recently by Eusebeus in the AfD: WP:SS, WP:SYNTH and WP:TRIVIA.  These will help you focus the article in a manner more acceptable to WP.  Anyway, I look forward to working with you on this and (hopefully) other articles in the future.  Cheers  --Jubilee♫ clipman  18:02, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * One minor issue: the name should be October (Whitacre) after the fashion of Cloudburst (Whitacre). At present, it appears that "October" is a type of wind band!  Now about that other article...  any sources?    --Jubilee♫ clipman  18:12, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I am probably the person whose comment inspired the suggestion that other editors working on the article would cause you to get lower marks. From looking at the instructor's comments in the discussion, it appears that it would not work that way. Nevertheless, I can explain why I might have thought that. Suppose I were teaching a class, and two students in the class each created a new Wikipedia article for their assignment. Student A writes her article and includes footnoted references to support the claims in the text. Student B writes her article but doesn't include any references in the text; however, other Wikipedia editors (who are not enrolled in this class) look up the facts stated by Student B, confirm them, and fill in the references themselves. Both articles wind up being about equal in quality by the end of the semester. But if I were the instructor, I would be more impressed by the work of Student A, since she both wrote the text and supplied the references herself. That may not be how it works in your class, but it is my opinion. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:20, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Article kept by default
You will be interested (though not necessarily delighted) to hear that the article has been kept because there was no consensus to delete. No consensus (nearly) always defaults to the status quo, hence the closing admin's decision. Good luck with your assignment, again, and I hope to see you around Wikipedia again in the future --Jubilee♫ clipman  16:38, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
 * As Jubileeclipman suggested above, the article has been moved to October (Whitacre) in accordance with Naming conventions (music). --Metropolitan90 (talk) 22:23, 24 April 2010 (UTC)