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Thanks
This is just a quick note to say thank you for working on some of the Dictionary of New Zealand Biography-sourced articles that I created last summer. Keep up the good work.

Thanks for being a Maori

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2002 Birthday Honours
Thank you for very good work on the 2002 Birthday Honours. I added the appropriate WikiProject templates with ratings to this list, and I observed many problems with Birthday Honours and other UK honors lists, way beyond my ability or time to correct. If you look at other articles in the categories, you will find more to do. Keep up the good work. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:43, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

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Your edits to 2013 New Year Honours
Hey, and thank you for your edits to 2013 New Year Honours. However, you have removed a great deal of the standard formatting from these that I did, putting it out of alignment with our established way that we write this and other Honours lists (relevant salutations and PNLs outside of the link, adding a comma between PNLs, and using full names). Would you be terribly put-out if I fix it up to how we normally keep these?

James F. (talk) 01:29, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * No problem! There seems to be a variety of formats across the various honours lists, so any attempt to standardize is fantastic!
 * Paora (talk) 01:48, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Excellent; will get on with it. Agree that we should probably codify these into one standard, and then try to standardise the existing lists, but the amount of effort will be a bit extreme…
 * James F. (talk) 18:46, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

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Judith Potter
I like how you added the post-nominal template to |Judith Potter. I can't work out how make the template accept other countries (instead of the default to Canada). That is a good work-around. Karl Stephens (talk) 19:50, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Marshall
I'm curious, how did you know that Maurice Marshall died at home? Kansaikiwi (talk) 22:22, 17 May 2013 (UTC)


 * As per citation given in article. 01:13, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for creating 1981 New Year Honours, Paora!

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Thanks
Hi - just a quick note to thank you for the edits you've been doing on the bio's I created/edited. For any future articles I create I'll follow the same standard you have converted those articles to (e.g. no caps for surnames, no use of (Mil) after awards etc.) Thanks! Clarke43 (talk) 23:11, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Meka Whaitiri
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

King George V Silver Jubilee Medal
Can I suggest that you use the following citation for this award?

I suggest the following changes:
 * leave out, as it's unlikely to be referenced again.
 * add, as this should be part of the citation
 * use, as it's sourced from a newspaper, and that might as well be wikilinked

This is what it produces: original and modified.

Keep up your good work!  Schwede 66  09:59, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Burial categories
I see you've been categorising burials recently. In case you'd like to expand it, I should point out that I've just started Karori Cemetery, arguably the most important cemetery in NZ that didn't have its own article yet.  Schwede 66  19:02, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Arthur Thomas Bate
Nice work on expanding this. Shows the value of creating stub! What is the source for the date of birth? The notes on the RDP show a date of 28 Jan 1856. Thanks. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:22, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
 * His entry in the "Register of Lad Clerks in the Service of the Great Western Railway Company", accessed via database on Ancestry.com as per reference in article, gives his date of birth as 28 January 1855. Paora (talk) 13:51, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:31, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Michael Baigent - birth name
Please can you cite a reference for Michael Baigent's birth name being Michael Barry Meehan. Thanks. Dickie birdie (talk) 15:54, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
 * As per the reference in the article, Baigent was known as Michael B Meehan while at Nelson College. "Barry" was established by consulting the New Zealand birth registration indexes for 1948 – hopefully this doesn't violate WP:OR! Paora (talk) 08:11, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Bruce Jesson
Dear Paora, thank you for patiently showing me the guidelines about citations in the lead. I learned something new. Thanks again. My regards, George Custer&#39;s Sabre (talk) 16:32, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

2014 Birthday Honours
Good evening, I really would like you to explain why you added the 'residences' and removed some of the post-nom templates. The residents were left out for a reason and I do not see why the post-nom templates were removed, some were kept but changed to an inferior template. Such mass changes should really be discussed before hand. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 12:49, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to explain my edits. The places of residence of the added, as per the published honours lists, for consistency as they are listed for the New Zealand recipients on the previous lists on Wikipedia - e.g. see 2014 New Year Honours. As far as I am aware, no objection has previously been raised about including the residences of those honoured. Thus not sure what would be the problem with adding this information.  You stated that the residents [sic] were left out for a reason, but unhelpfully did not explain what that reason was, so it is difficult to discuss this further. The post-nom templates were removed, as noted in my edit summary, to remove multiple linking of the same postnominals, as per the WP Manual of Style – see WP:REPEATLINK. Paora (talk) 08:03, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Recent edits
Hi Paora,

On the article, Frederick William Hilgendorf, you stated that DNZB establishes notability. Can you send me the page that indicates that? Also, the Demonym for New Zealand is -er. So my edit about that should not be incorrect. Robert4565 (talk) 17:54, 19 June 2014 (UTC) It can also be seen on this page: New Zealander|. Robert4565 (talk) 17:56, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, the demonym for New Zealand is New Zealander, but, as per the list of adjectival and demonymic forms for countries and nations, the adjectival is New Zealand. So, it could be said that Hilgendorf was a New Zealander, or that Hilgendorf was a New Zealand teacher, but NOT that he is was a New Zealander teacher. On the question of notability of New Zealanders, and whether an entry in the Dictionary of New Zealand Biography establishes notability, refer to Notability (New Zealand people) and the associated talk page. Paora (talk) 07:42, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Paora,

Thanks for all your work on the Lving New Zealand Knights and Dames page. It looks like Sir Graeme Davies is overdue for deletion from this page. He was knighted in the UK New Years Honours of 1996.

With appreciation, Dave Eaves — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.18.44.150 (talk) 12:18, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Defaultsort
Please do not add an empty Defaultsort as you did in Con Devitt. This is worse than no defaultsort. Bgwhite (talk) 06:57, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing and correcting my accidental oversight. Paora (talk) 07:24, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Lee Grant
I understand but it is confusing since there is a much more well-known actress of the same name. Yours, Quis separabit?  21:13, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Incomplete ref
Do you have the year of publication for the Central Leader article added with this edit? It is producing a referencing error.  Schwede 66  20:26, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 1975 - fixed! Paora (talk) 23:00, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

All Blacks
Finally got round to dropping by and commending you for adding so many articles about All Blacks of the recent-ish past. I'm not from NZ myself but have some interest in rugby history and I see them being linked from tour articles on my watchlist. Good work! --Bcp67 (talk) 21:19, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the edits
Thanks for all the tweaking you've been doing on the NZ artist pages - it's very much appreciated.

Auchmill (talk) 01:29, 17 March 2015 (UTC) 

Honorifics in lists of politicians
Hi Paora. Since you've edited one or more of List of current members of the British Privy Council, British Government frontbench and Official Opposition frontbench in the last six months, I'd like to invite you to a discussion about the use of honorifics in those lists. The discussion is happening here, and I look forward to a helpful and robust discussion. DBD 20:56, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

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AB's
Thank you for your work on All Black Biographys bro, awesome to see aye. Regards. Sirpottingmix (talk) 01:46, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for improving Kawana Flour Mill
Thank you for adding that infobox and coordinates; it's a great improvement. Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 10:35, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Patsy Reddy
I added Template:NZ-cats to Patsy Reddy to manage Categories which you removed however I don't understand your reasoning, why did you remove template nz-cats?

My intention was to manage categories using the template.


 * — Per WP:TEMPLATECAT, "it is recommended that articles not be placed in ordinary content categories using templates in this way." There are many reasons for this – see WP:TEMPLATECAT. Paora (talk) 09:59, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * How interesting; I never knew this. Why then have that template in the first instance?  Schwede 66  16:45, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Good question! Paora (talk) 20:43, 28 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Agreed it is strange. A woman appointed a GNZM would be both a Category:Dames Grand Companion of the New Zealand Order of Merit and a Category:New Zealand dames. The concerns about non-article pages may get added to the category are addressed by using Template:nz instead of nz-cats for lists and sort keys are unrelated to these articles.


 * Problem
 * By removing nz-cats there are now only 4 pages in Category:New Zealand dames instead of 38 so have to manually add the missing pages (which is the reason we use nz-cats) and
 * This behaviour ignores the other 95 Pages that link to "Template:Post-nominals/NZL-cats" where this is not a problem.
 * Your thoughts?

--Karl Stephens ( talk &#124; contribs ) 03:49, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
 * My thoughts are that we should be discussing this on the template's talk page.  Schwede 66  20:07, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I've put the template up for deletion.  Schwede 66  09:50, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Template:Marriage
I've seen you use the Template:Marriage on quite a few occasions, but you may not have it on your watchlist. Hence, I thought I'd draw this RfC to your attention.  Schwede 66  08:10, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

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FYI
I won't revert this, but please see Citing IMDb. —  Wylie pedia  02:17, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Copy-paste move of Elias Scheres
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Norma Williams
I created a category to list London Gazette supplements so that I could analyse which ones link to supplements > 1. The article in it are listed by number order. So at the Norma Williams is first on the list because it lists a supplement no. 43] (dated April 22, 1666). You added the the template to the article on 14 June 2015. Can you remember which supplement you meant? If so please fix the number (see for details on the current parameters, which have change quite a lot recently). This template does not cover links to the New Zealand (Wellington?) Gazette.

-- PBS (talk) 11:50, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Have fixed it.  Schwede 66  09:25, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Paora (talk) 10:21, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Alfred Eady
Alfred Eady is NOT the common name. It should be Lewis Eady, if anything, because that is the name known by far as the name of the firm which Lewis Alfred Eady ran. Please change it to that. Akld guy (talk) 00:11, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

The Te Ara site uses Alfred to distinguish him from his father. The common name for the music store, and the best name by far that it was known by, was LEWIS EADY. Akld guy (talk) 00:14, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Government ministers
Can you please stop undoing my edits. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jvfmgnlllj (talk • contribs) 23:51, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Marie Darby
Alex Shih (talk) 00:03, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Prabook as a source
Hi Paora. I noticed that you recently used prabook.com as a source for information in Michael Hartshorn. Please note that the general consensus as expressed at WP:RSN is that prabook.com does not meet the reliable sourcing criteria for the inclusion of personal information in such articles. If you disagree, let's discuss it. Thanks. --Ronz (talk) 17:43, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Redirects
Hi Paora! There is no need to "correct" links that are redirects. These are acceptable, and sometimes even preferable, as per WP:NOTBROKEN. Thanks, Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 13:25, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Pat Booth (New Zealand journalist)
Hi Paora, I have written the biography for this recently deceased notable person but I used the wrong info box. I can't put in the death info. I would be very grateful if you could correct for me. Thanks very muchEmendment (talk)

New article
Please take a look at (and add to?) List of electoral firsts in New Zealand, partly based on List of electoral firsts in the United Kingdom but with wider coverage of MPs and ministers generally. Hugo999 (talk) 04:08, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

question is
perverse, or lack of english or neither ?? re the IP and weirdness in categories JarrahTree 11:05, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

About Template:2018 New Zealand Commonwealth Games team
Hi Paora, Is there some way to automate that, or did you create it from scratch? It must have been one heck of a task. I'm thinking of making on for the Australian team at 2018, and I'd appreciate you help. Back in a while - working on hitting 900 kms for April 2018. Thanks! Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 02:59, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I've done a few of those templates (for the Olympics) and I've always done them from scratch. Well, once you've done one, you've got a template (as far as the sports are concerned) for the next one.  Schwede 66  09:13, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, what  Schwede 66  said. No shortcut sorry. Fortunately, the NZ teams are smaller than Australia's! Paora (talk) 11:54, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Copying within Wikipedia
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Sir William Perry
Hi Paora, there were two men of this name, I can remember meeting both in the 1950s. You've mixed up the Wellington solicitor with the Wairarapa sheep breeder. Don't know why the Wellington man got his knighthood, the rest of the article looks to me to be about the sheep breeder (1863-1956) who got his knighthood in the New Year's honours in 1933. Are you able to sort the two men out? I suppose the solicitor ranks as notable by being given the 1946 knighthood? regards, Eddaido (talk) 08:42, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Here's the marriage of the solicitor's parents and the notice of his birth in Goldsborough on the West Coast (I think). He seems to have been his mother's only child (of that marriage). Don't know which source has the right date of birth. The sheep breeder is likely to have been born in the Wairarapa. Eddaido (talk) 09:23, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Bill Baillie
Thanks for all the nice work on the late runner's article. Activist (talk) 09:20, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Harold Grocott for deletion
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Ernest Booth article
Hi there Paora, I was reviewing the new articles on project rugby union and saw your article on Ernest Booth. Please be aware this person already has a wikipedia article under the title Ernie Booth. The older article only has one reference so yours is much better but obviously these need merging and a re-direct on one of the titles. Thanks Skeene88 (talk) 20:22, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. The older article under Ernie Booth hadn't been linked from the List of New Zealand national rugby union players, so I missed it when creating Ernest Booth. I see that the two have now been merged, and I have also updated the list page to link directly to Ernie Booth. I'll investigate more fully before creating further new pages for All Blacks in case of similar issues. Paora (talk) 00:38, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Category:New Zealand Business Hall of Fame inductees has been nominated for discussion
Category:New Zealand Business Hall of Fame inductees, which you created, has been nominated for conversion into a list article. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:49, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, While I have concerns about this as a category, I think it would make a good list article and I don't want you to lose any work so here are the current contents:


 * Harcourt Caughey
 * William Soltau Davidson
 * Peter Elworthy
 * Rob Fenwick
 * Woolf Fisher
 * Mary Jane Innes
 * Elspeth Kennedy (sharebroker)
 * Johannes La Grouw
 * Peter Masfen
 * Don McLaren
 * Wendy Pye
 * Don Rowlands
 * Peter Shirtcliffe
 * Gil Simpson
 * Dryden Spring
 * William Stevenson (New Zealand politician, born 1901)
 * Robertson Stewart
 * Wilson Whineray


 * Thanks! RevelationDirect (talk) 00:53, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Category:Bowls New Zealand Hall of Fame inductees has been nominated for discussion
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 * Hello, While I have concerns about this as a category, I think it would make a good list article and I don't want you to lose any work so here are the current contents:


 * David Baldwin (bowls)
 * Peter Belliss
 * Rowan Brassey
 * Marlene Castle
 * Kerry Clark
 * Ian Dickison
 * Gordon Jolly
 * Millie Khan
 * Frank Livingstone (bowls)
 * Robert McDonald (bowls)
 * Morgan Moffat
 * Sharon Sims
 * Phil Skoglund
 * John Somerville (bowls)


 * Thanks! RevelationDirect (talk) 00:15, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Parentheses
I was taught a parenthesis is a comma with added purpose. Bertie Germ was heavily promoted to children by propaganda from the 1930s on in posters on school walls etc. Bertie Germ unless washed off with soap and water did terrible things to any child and to children's unbrushed teeth. Cooksley was Bert anyway but the anti-social link needed to be avoided too. Regards, Eddaido (talk) 23:50, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * see MOS:Comma. Paora (talk) 00:20, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * tsk! what do They know. Eddaido (talk) 00:23, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Brian Lochore
"the closure summary does NOT refer to the original size on the page; as 85% was the size at the time of the RFC, 85% is the status quo, and should not be changed without consensus on talk page." What utter drivel. The status quo referred to is the status quo before the RfC: i.e. that the template size remains at 85% but that the original size of the postnoms should not be changed if that was 100%. It is certainly not a charter for fans of the small size to point to the mass addition of the template and say "look, it's 85% now so it should remain at 85% even though the original writer wrote it at 100%"! How on earth would you think this was the case? Never do we mandate stylistic changes to a perfectly acceptable style (as 100% postnoms have been found to be) at the whim of another editor who prefers it, which is what you are advocating. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:31, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
 * You ask, "How on earth would you think this was the case?" My response is that I carefully read the RFC closure summary, and reviewed the edit history showing that at the time of the RFC and for at least three years prior that the smaller size was used in the article, which led me to the conclusion that the smaller size should be changed only with consensus on the article's talk page, which was neither sought nor achieved. To suggest that I was advocating anything in my edit summary, or that I was acting on a whim, are both incorrect; I was merely following my considered understanding of the recommendation of the RFC closure summary. Paora (talk) 10:15, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I didn't say you were acting on a whim. I said that your reading of the RfC conclusion is endorsing changes to perfectly good style on an editor's whim, which cannot be the case as this is not how Wikipedia works. We only change style if it is incorrect, not just because we prefer another. The RfC is essentially saying that the first style used should be continued, as 100% is a perfectly acceptable style. Otherwise it would be endorsing the mass imposition of a different style as happened when a few editors added the postnom template to every article in sight. The criteria of WP:RETAIN should equally apply here. If it ain't incorrect it shouldn't be changed. And that's what editors essentially did by adding the postnom template. I have nothing against the template in principle, but not when it's being used to change one style to another. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:21, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Ray Henwood
In case you've missed it, Henwood has died but I don't have a confirmed date of death. Akld guy (talk) 00:21, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

don't take back my edits
hi..we have article about the events in future like olympic 2028 or many events like that..the qualification round passed and these sport's man (women) got the olympic enterance...it's not soon..less than 1 year,it begins...--Mojtaba2361 (talk) 11:17, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I have reverted your edits, which were the adding of pages to the category Category:Shooters at the 2020 Summer Olympics, because it is erroneous to populate that category until the actual event takes place. Until then, it is mere speculation as to who may or may not take part. Paora (talk) 11:56, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
cheers!

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Betty Flint
I nominated an article of yours for DYK at Template:Did you know nominations/Betty Flint. SL93 (talk) 20:22, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Betty Flint
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

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Post-nominals
Hello Paora. With regards to post-nominals and your removal of the MBE from John Keith McCarthy's article, is there some kind of hierarchy where if a person has a higher-ranked honour, you don't list their other ones? Can you point me to where the hierarchy is, because I've probably made the same error on other articles. Cheers, Number   5  7  11:00, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
 * When an individual is promoted to a higher level of the same Order, as in the case of John Keith McCarthy from Member of the Order of the British Empire (MBE) to Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE), then only the post-nominal for the higher level is included. When the appointments are to different Orders, then both are listed, see for example Robert Falla. Paora (talk) 21:37, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks – I assume a KBE outranks a CBE? Cheers, Number   5  7  21:46, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, GBE > KBE / DBE > CBE > OBE > MBE. See Order of the British Empire. Paora (talk) 21:55, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for finishing the work on making the disambiguation page Patrick O'Regan. I got interrupted at home, and by the time I got back to it, you had finished it off. Cheers. --Scott Davis Talk 04:07, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Reg Douglas
Hi Paora. Regarding Reg Douglas, I do not think it is safe to say that Douglas is living just because he does not appear in the New Zealand Death Index. While it makes it more likely, as you note yourself, he could have moved elsewhere and died there. He could have also had a legal name change or just had some other reason why he does not appear (a small percentage of individuals who are known to be deceased on particular dates are missing from the US Social Security Death Index and the French Death Index, so it could happen in NZ too). Another thing to consider is that the New Zealand Olympians Club could not locate him in 2012. None of this means he is deceased for certain, of course, but he is over 90 with no evidence of being alive in many years, so he seems to fit Category:Possibly living people perfectly. Thoughts? Canadian  Paul  01:31, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * It is obviously much easier to prove that something has happened, rather to to prove that it hasn't happened. However, it is clear that Douglas was still living (and most likely in New Zealand) in late 2009, when he was interviewed for an obituary for Bob Parker, his partner at the 1956 Olympics and the 1954 and 1958 British Empire Games. Interestingly, both Parker and Douglas are mentioned in the 2012 article about the search for "lost" Olympic rowers by the New Zealand Olympians Club to which you refer, so not sure how exhaustive their search was given that they weren't aware of Parker's death reported in the New Zealand Herald, the country's largest circulation newspaper, three years earlier. Given that Douglas won three Commonwealth Games medals, including two gold, for New Zealand, I'd expect some sort of obituary or other mention in the media if he had died between 2009 and now. Paora (talk) 02:22, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * You are probably correct. Sadly, however, Olympic medalists die without receiving any coverage, let alone full obituaries, more often than you would think. So we cannot assume that just absence of evidence is evidence of absence when it comes to them being deceased - that's why we have the possibly living people category in the first place. With that said, a mention in 2009 is probably good enough to qualify for the living people category, so I suppose that it is all academic. Thanks for finding that. Canadian   Paul  02:32, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Wright Stephenson
Please read edit comments and respond promptly to items on talk pages and do not edit war. Eddaido (talk) 04:11, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Genuinely perplexed by your message above. You reverted three times in less than one hour (i.e. started an edit war), and I explicitly stated that I would not revert again and hence not be dragged into an edit war, before you posted the above message telling me not to edit war. At no stage have I edit warred. Paora (talk) 04:22, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * What you have done is ignored requests to discuss the matter on the talk page, I'm not clear why. The matter is not yet dealt with, there are links to be fixed as well. Please would you respond to my question on that talk page. 'Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia'. Eddaido (talk) 04:26, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Common Name
Hi, Paora. I was going to send you a note about an hour ago, to discuss moving his article back, in contrast to your "move" in September 2018. As usual, got caught up in other things, but it is on my notepad of things to do. Your revert on 2007 Birthday Honours (New Zealand) a few minutes ago just moved it up.

Everything that supports the Ross Ferguson page - references, bibliography, news paper clippings, official government announcements, his official abbreviation for Botany citations - shows him as Allan Ross Ferguson or A. R. Ferguson or Allan R. Ferguson. I appreciate that folks who know him personally may well call him Ross all the time, but to the majority of the billions in the world (well, the millions who read Wiki) (well, at least the thousands that read his Wiki article), he appears as one of these variations of Allan Ross Ferguson.

This is in keeping with the direction of WP:COMMONNAME, which gives "J. K. Rowling (not: Joanne Rowling)" as a specific example of "commonly used names in support of recognizability" - her friends may all call her Joanne, but J. K. is the common name for the wider world. Your thoughts? Jmg38 (talk) 12:02, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * On the contrary, sources commonly refer to him as Ross Ferguson. Here are just a few to be going on with:, , , , , , , . Paora (talk) 22:17, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the info - I appreciate the followup. Ross it is. Jmg38 (talk) 18:07, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Using "order" parameter in infobox
See Template:Infobox officeholder Snickers2686 (talk) 16:38, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. That is more useful that the WP:MOS in your edit summaries, which makes no mention of the the use or otherwise of ordinals for officeholders. In the case of Jacinda Ardern, which is the edit of yours I reverted, there are plenty of examples of her being referred to as the 40th prime minister of New Zealand in reliable sources: here are a few to be going on with –, , , , . Paora (talk) 21:13, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Well considering it's been referenced that way in the template, that's what I was going off of. Snickers2686 (talk) 05:15, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Survey on proposed 2021 Wikimedia Aotearoa conference
Kia ora, as an editor in New Zealand I wanted to let you know about a survey gathering information for planning a Wikimedia conference in early 2021. Here's the link - it's open til 18 November. Feel free to share it with other editors you know too. Cheers! https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/K37CY2B MurielMary (talk) 10:03, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Laurie Stevens
Wikipedia is a placefor the biographies of `n people, focused on their accomplishments, not their hobbies. Iknow you're not a promotional editor, so please do not write like one.  DGG ( talk ) 21:54, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Paora, any idea what DGG means by that?  Schwede 66  23:08, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * DGG is referring to content on Laurie Stevens (industrialist), not Laurie Stevens. The material that I included that is apparently at issue, is the following paragraph, which DGG has twice removed from the article, calling it "irrelevant minor material":

"While a student, Stevens represented Auckland University at tennis, and he later served as president of the Auckland Lawn Tennis Association between 1983 and 1984. He also served as chair of the Auckland Agricultural, Pastoral and Industrial Shows Board, and was a member of the Melanesian Mission Trust Board."
 * I obviously disagree with DGG's assessment of the material as irrelevant and minor. I certainly see nothing there that could remotely be described as "promotional". Thoughts? Paora (talk) 23:24, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah. I've just come across that page through NPP. Being president and chair of organisations is obviously not trivial.  Schwede 66  00:37, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Sir Roger Bhatnagar
Thank you for the creation of the page for Roger Bhatnagar. There are a couple of errors which I would invite you to correct, which I am happy to do so if you are not available for further edits. I have made the list of suggested changes on the Talk Page for Sir Roger. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.60.82.177 (talk) 02:20, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Afds on cricketers
Hi Paora. I know you do some great work on NZ sportspeople, so you might be interested in a batch of NZ cricketers at AfD. There's about 20 or so, starting here. If any names jump out as possible expansion candidates, or you can do any work whatsoever on any of them, it would be most grateful. No worries if you don't have time and/or interest. Thanks.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 11:02, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

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An introduction to Wikisource, a free repository of digitised out-of-copyright books uploaded and proofread by volunteers, and what this means for New Zealand libraries and museums.

"Wikisource, a sister project to Wikipedia, is an online repository of free, out-of-copyright books anyone can read or download. The books have been scanned, transcribed, and proofread by multiple volunteers to create a computer-readable and searchable document. Wikisource can also import books already scanned by the Internet Archive, which includes numerous New Zealand works. Volunteers can help with basic proofreading, verification, and formatting of each others’ work. There’s significant potential for Wikisource as a place to host New Zealand works for free, and enlist the help of an international team of volunteers to transcribe them—see this blog post for an example. Andrew Wooding is a Wikisource admin and has been volunteering with the project for over ten years; he most recently assisted the National Library of Scotland with a COVID lockdown project where staff transcribed nearly 3000 pamphlets from the collection. Andrew is visiting the West Coast and has kindly agreed to give this free seminar for anyone interested."

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 * Sat–Sun 20–21 March 2021
 * Registration will be just $20, with a mixture of presentations, skill sharing, and editing events for Wikipedians.

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Article proposal
Hello, I've considering creating a page and want to know if it meets GNG. Schwede66 recommended I ask you.

It can be found here, if you're interested in giving your thoughts.

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File:Hugh Ayson.jpg
Hello Paora. There is another version of this image here, which I think is slightly better as it doesn't have the line going through his neck (if you zoom in on Trove, the quality is not bad). Although I originally uploaded a small version of it as a non-free image, I have since learnt that it should be out of copyright as it was published in Australia before 1955 (like this one). I wondered whether it might be worth uploading the one from PIM over the file on Commons and adjusting the rationale? There is also another version of it here but I am not sure about the colour of it. Number  5  7  21:16, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Go for it! Paora (talk) 22:31, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

West Coast WikiCon Prize
Hi Paora, Congratulations for winning a prize at the West Coast WikiCon. In order to claim your prize of a year's free membership to InternetNZ you'll need to provide me with your email address. My personal email address is written on the card we gave you. If you could send me an email - I can let InternetNZ know your details so they can sign you up. If you're not sure what membership to InternetNZ can give you, check this out. https://internetnz.nz/membership/ Looking foward to hearing from you. Einebillion (talk) 21:45, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Mystery QSM
The death notice for claims that he has had a QSM. I can't find any evidence of that. If you have time, I'd appreciate if you could have a look.  Schwede 66  19:18, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I can't find any evidence either, but looks like he may have received the New Zealand 1990 Commemoration Medal instead – see here. Paora (talk) 20:34, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Awesome. Thanks. Have amended the Wikidata entry. Maybe the grieving relatives got a bit carried away.  Schwede 66  22:12, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Sir Alan Stewart
Kia ora, re this, I was just trying to fill out the infobox and actually mindlessly copied George Washington, which of course says he was the 1st President of the United States but also gives the "office established". Do you think this is wrong in both cases, or okay on George Washington but not Alan Stewart? Brycehughes (talk) 02:51, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It would seem to me to be redundant to have the predecessor field saying "office established" when the header says "1st" Whatever of Wherever. In my opinion, it's just adding an extra line to the infobox without adding any addtional information. But I'm not going to die in a ditch over it. Paora (talk) 03:20, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Haha we're so far from the mud. I'll just say it gives a bit more visual meat to a lonely section of the officeholder infobox, which appears a bit sparse if you have only "succeeded by" in a single section; moreover I think there's an argument that it's nicer to have an demonstrated end when you're clicking back through infobox links. I agree with you that it's redundant, but it's also an infobox... redundancy can be the point. I'll revert you, tentatively, but if you revert me back I'll wave the white flag. Brycehughes (talk) 03:38, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

I'll just add, while I'm here, I really appreciate all your work on the NZ articles, as I'm sure many others do as well. Brycehughes (talk) 03:42, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Buck Shelford
Kia ora, I am wondering if we set up an Honours section on Shelford's page? I ask because I see you have done good work there. I may nip in and add some comment to what you have added, but won't set up another section until I hear back from you. Cheers. Realitylink (talk) 21:41, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

1999 New Zealand bravery awards
My apologies. I missed that it was a direct quote. Thanks for the revert. Truthanado (talk) 15:50, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

2020 New Zealand Olympic team
Hi there, could you please leave it to me to place the navbox? I'm doing a AWB run and it's easier if I do them all as part of that. If you want to work in that space, maybe figure out the Rugby sevens squad; that's missing from the template as the team isn't listed on the New Zealand at the 2020 Summer Olympics page.  Schwede 66  00:04, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * No worries! Paora (talk) 00:21, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm done, including the two sports that you managed to add. Thanks! Just the archers now, plus a bunch of red links, of course.  Schwede 66  02:50, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I think that no archers are being sent by New Zealand despite qualifying two, as they were not deemed likely to finish in the top 16. Paora (talk) 02:53, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Ayesha Verrall
Hi : Just wondering why you had reverted her title. She is a Doctor? NZDF1985 (talk) 2:29 3 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Please see MOS:DOC, as per my edit summary. Paora (talk) 02:44, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Diana Hill (scientist)
Thanks for tidying up Diana Hill (scientist). Just wondering, I had a hatnote to link the page to Diana Hill the miniaturist, which I see you removed. Is there something about the use of these I don't understand? I have tended to use them where there are two people with the same name (whereas if there were more I would create a disambiguation page). Is that not right? Seeking to understand so I don't go putting more of them where they don't belong! Thanks. DrThneed (talk) 10:43, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hatnotes are not required when the subject is not ambiguous, per Hatnote. Thus, there should be a hatnote mentioning the scientist on the miniaturist's page, Diana Hill, but a hatnote is not necessary on the scientist's page, Diana Hill (scientist), because that one is disambiguated. Paora (talk) 10:48, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh I see! I regret that was not obvious to me! Thanks. DrThneed (talk) 11:00, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Temalisi Fakahokotau
Hi. Thanks for your edit. I am not so sure about including the DOB. See Biographies of living persons, although I admit that this is far from clear and that the information on her birthdate is available in one of the cited sources. You may also like to look at Vania Wolfgramm, Tracy Atiga, and Samantha Winders, which I uploaded in the last couple of days. Roundtheworld (talk) 10:25, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think that we are contravening the BLP policy by using Fakahokotau's date of birth as given on her profile on the official Netball New Zealand website, which is already listed in the references for the article. Similarly for other Silver Ferns where their date of birth is listed by Netball New Zealand. Paora (talk) 08:51, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Mary Earle
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DYK for Abel Tasman Monument
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Disambiguation link notification for January 15
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Patricia Grace
Kia ora Paora, hope you're keeping well. Thanks so much for your edits on Grace's article, particularly the addition of her opinion on damehoods; I tried to find a better source explaining why she declined redesignation but my Googling skills failed me, so much appreciated!

Also just to draw your attention to a comment made by the GA reviewer in relation to the macrons in quotations, in case you didn't see it: Talk:Patricia Grace/GA1. They've basically said they don't agree with that interpretation of the MOS, but didn't mind either way. I don't much mind either, to be honest, but thought you might be interested to see their thoughts. :) Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 08:39, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I guess it depends how you regard it as an issue of typographic conformity, per MOS:CONFORM, or follow the principle of minimal change and retain dialectal and archaic spellings, per MOS:QUOTE. I generally err on the side of retaining the spelling, including orthography, of the original text, but not hugely bothered either way either. Well done on getting the article to GA status! Paora (talk) 08:47, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Michelle Kelly
Hi. I have been working on Michelle Kelly. I was hoping you might work your magic on her as you did so superbly for Jane Fromont. The earliest publication of hers that I have found is her Ph.D from Auckland, and the dedication makes it likely that she is indeed a New Zealander. (I have been working hard on her sponges and her articles in wikidata, so there is no doubt about her notability.) But tracing her movements via her affiliations makes it very hard for any reader. MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:02, 9 March 2022 (UTC) MargaretRDonald (talk) 04:48, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * . Thank you once more for your masterly improvements to this page. MargaretRDonald (talk) 23:04, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for your help over at Draft:Sam Duckor-Jones. You've really helped make the page better. Nauseous Man (talk) 06:08, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Cliff Gibbs
Thanks for taking the time to do all of that. Really appreciate it. Blue Square Thing (talk) 05:44, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Commons category
Could you also add the Thanksgiving Service category to ?  Peter Ormond &#128172;  15:45, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Done! It's easy to do. The easiest way is to go to your Preferences in Wikimedia Commons and turn on HotCat under Tools for categories on the Gadgets tab. Paora (talk) 01:06, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Tereza's table of contents problem
It turns out that Tereza's issue with tables of contents that she mentioned at the Auckland Wiki meet-up is a stylistic difference. On Portuguese Wikipedia, tables of contents are generated on the left-hand sidebar instead of underneath the lede. There seems to be a way to generate the table in-article (e.g. Jeanine Áñez), but I couldn't see any wikiscript that would trigger this in the article. --Prosperosity (talk) 00:53, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

The Otago Rambler
Paora, I pinged you at WP:Articles for deletion/The Otago Rambler (2nd nomination). Jay  10:13, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Helen Winkelmann
Nice catch on the Helen Winkelmann edit - I didn't think to double check. Nauseous Man (talk) 09:31, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I think there's a wider issue with trying to list all of the dates (particularly in the infobox) that Winkelmann acts as administrator. There never seems to be any official announcement, so there is generally a bit of guesswork, particularly when there are no events that the administrator is involved in during the period that they are in the role. Kiro was overseas in July for the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham, but I haven't seen anything about whether it was Winkelmann or another senior Supreme Court justice who was administrator then. Similarly in early September when Kiro visited Samoa. Then during the latest trip for the Queen's funeral, Glazebrook was apparently administrator for the first part of the absence, then Winkelmann was in the role from the middle of 20 September. We don't list all the times that the deputy prime minister is acting prime minister in his infobox, so would question the need to do the same when the administrator is "acting governor-general". Paora (talk) 04:55, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

A goat for you!
Thanks for updating the Sophie Pascoe pic dude!

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Edit conflict on O'Malley
Sorry we were both editing it at the same time...confusing...but it all seems ok now. ThanksRealitylink (talk) 10:21, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

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A kitten for you!
Just to say thank you for all your excellent Wikidata work; I've only recently started using it more regularly and it seems like every time I'm looking at a page for a New Zealand woman your username is all over it. :)

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NZHPT
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Requested photos
Kia ora Paul, here's a map I've put together of places of interest in the central city. There's probably quite a few more I'm missing (especially companies with Wikipedia articles or 3D art/sculptures), but if you happen to be in the area, It'd be awesome if you could photograph some of these! --Prosperosity (talk) 00:02, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Had a quick look and noticed c:Category:Auckland Unitarian Church, which I thought we had photos for, . And one of those is quite ok.  Schwede 66  05:00, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I've just caught another one too - the Baptist Tabernacle already had some photos. --Prosperosity (talk) 19:40, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Kieran Wright
Hello Paora,

I've tried to create a disambiguation page for "Kieran Wright", but stuffed that up. I wonder if you'd mind creating one? (You might recall you'd made a DAB page for "Chris Moller" a week or so ago ... that was down to me as well!) I'm still on a learning curve regarding editing. Am getting better at creating pages, than I am dealing with other Wikipedia tweaks. FYI - Kieran Wright (the artist) is being profiled on "Sunday" on TVNZ 1, 5th March 2023. Thanks for your help. Cheers, Paul

Aerohydro (talk) 03:38, 5 March 2023 (UTC)


 * No stuff up detected. What you've done so far is good. You now need to edit Kieran Wright and turn it into a disambiguation page. Maybe the automatic redirect is what throws you; in that case, try this link in that case, User:Aerohydro.  Schwede 66  04:10, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello Schwede66,
 * Thanks for your reply, and for pointing me to the right - ahem - Wright page. And, yes, it was the automatic redirect that was foiling my earlier efforts. Have now edited it, so that it's now a disambiguation page.
 * BTW, I am part of an informal Wikipedia group at the Ara Institute of Canterbury, along with MurielMary, Podzemnik, and KiwiKA. During our monthly meet-ups, we often discuss all the work that you and Paora do. Cheers, Paul
 * Aerohydro (talk) 04:57, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Page move during an AfD
Hi - just a good faith heads up, please don't move pages as you did here while an AfD is live, as it makes closing the AfD more complicated. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 09:00, 19 March 2023 (UTC)


 * @Goldsztajn: Thanks for letting me know; I won't do it again! Paora (talk) 09:03, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Btw, should say thank you for your work in improving this article and the Lindsay Watt one, good to see articles developed from outside the North Atlantic Anglosphere. Kind regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 09:08, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Help with Richard Chandler updates
Hello Paora. I am the declared COI editor for New Zealand native Richard Chandler (businessman) and have posted a request to update and change the article for accuracy and relevance. A few days ago a different editor implemented a part of the request; I saw your active editing of other NZ BLPs and hope you might take a look and make these updates. Thank you, Rob6031 (talk) 08:56, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

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Bolding
I see you've started removing unnecessary bolding to the articles. Please save yourself the effort, I just got permission to use AutoWikiBrowser and it'd be a nice project to learn how to use it. Please don't waste your time :) Panamitsu (talk) 10:40, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, good luck! Paora (talk) 10:41, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Wairoa Stream
Thanks for saving me from inadvertently deleting an article about something that exists - for some reason, it never showed up on the gazetteer no matter how I tried to search. I'll try to put some more effort into my search next time! Turnagra (talk) 04:57, 28 August 2023 (UTC)


 * No worries, there are a lot of streams with the same name, so easy to overlook. Paora (talk) 07:53, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

sir
Thinks for bringing my attention to MOS:SIR, which appears to be at odds with MOS:BOLD. It's rather amazing how many examples there are like that one. ~TPW 13:20, 31 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I've started a discussion about that here. ~TPW 16:58, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

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Renée
I just learned of Renée's death via seeing your edit on my watchlist setting the "living" parameter on her talk page to "no". I'm sad, but also somewhat amused by that way of finding out. I guess now I'm no longer on Twitter, this is going to be the way I learn of the deaths of New Zealand literary greats... Chocmilk03 (talk) 20:58, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Merry Christmas


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"Which" vs "that"
What is the difference between "which" and "that"? I don't understand. Coming from your hook change comment on Jenny Suo DYK. —Panamitsu (talk) 02:29, 10 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I could get into a long dicussion about restrictive and non-restrictive clauses, and whether the subject of the subordinate clause and the main clause are the same, but basically all you need to remember is:"'That' is used to indicate a specific object, item, person, condition, etc., while 'which' is used to add information to objects, items, people, situations, etc." If you really want to learn more, I suggest you google "which vs that". Paora (talk) 02:53, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Sandra Hazlehurst
That has got to be the fastest destubbing I have ever seen. Thank you! Mach61 (talk) 04:13, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Katie Nimon
 Schwede 66  00:08, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Miles Anderson (politician)
 Schwede 66  00:11, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Tanya Unkovich
 Schwede 66  00:15, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Laura Trask
 Schwede 66  00:19, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

You might be interested in an upcoming event in Auckland. Wikimedia Aotearoa is having a WikiCon! WikiCon Aotearoa 2024 is the annual gathering for all new and experienced editors of Wikipedia, Wikidata, Wikimedia Commons, and Wikisource projects. Anyone interested in editing is welcome to attend. This conference is organized by Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand (WANZ). It aims to provide training to new editors, to encourage editors to learn new skills, to grow the Wiki community in Auckland and to ensure that we have a fun weekend. Food and refreshments provided.

When: Saturday 23 March - Sunday 24 March 2024

Where: Auckland University of Technology - Sir Paul Reeves Building - WG Building 2 Governor Fitzroy Place, Auckland.

Cost: $10, fully catered, sponsorship / registration fee waiver available

We are offering full scholarships (registration, travel & accommodation) to attend - please contact [mailto:info@wikimedia.nz info@wikimedia.nz] for more information.

To see the full programme as it develops check out the Wikipedia Event page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiCon_Aotearoa/Auckland_2024

To register: https://events.humanitix.com/wikicon-aotearoa-2024 — Preceding unsigned comment added by CopperAlchemy (talk • contribs) 00:42, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Feedback request - ideas for an editathon based in Rotorua
Kia ora, I seek your feedback on a preliminary idea that I have been developing. This is for WANZ to plan an editathon based in Rotorua, focussing on articles and topics of interest in the Rotorua Lakes District. I have previously done some work on a few articles in the Rotorua Lakes District, and was aware that they were rather patchy. When I look into this further, there are major gaps - most especially the cultural aspects. It is disappointing to see the currently poor level of coverage of manawhenua and iwi topics. I am working on a table of articles - here is a link to a copy of where I have got to so far:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zb2EOVOuT-aFOm5ZMt1gC_cS_4_uhUwq/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103554601031698006176&rtpof=true&sd=true This is the easy part. The hard part is developing a concept for how an editathon could work in Rotorua, and who we might need to invite to provide cultural input and direct us to the most useful sources, so that the editathon was genuinely effective in improving coverage of manawhenua and iwi topics. I would appreciate your thoughts. Do you think the idea is practical - that it would be feasible to find someone with the right background and skills who would engage with us ? If you think the idea is potentially worthwhile, what are the next steps ? Try for engagement with Rotorua Museum or Library, or perhaps seek co-operation from a premiere tourist operation like Te Puia ? (I am thinking here that a direct approach to iwi organisations might not be effective). Keen for your thoughts.__  Marshelec (talk) 01:50, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

We invite you to stand for the WANZ Committee
Kia ora Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand (WANZ) members.

We invite you to consider standing for the WANZ Committee at our AGM 22 April 2024 to help shape and influence events and decisions.

The role of Secretary will be vacant. We are also interested in succession planning for the future. Please email info@wikimedia.nz for the Secretary Job Description, and the document outlining the relationship and tasks between the Secretary and the Executive Advisor position, as the Executive Advisor is now picking up day-to-day administration tasks from the Secretary.

If you would like to come along to a meeting and watch the committee in action before deciding whether to stand please reach out.

If you are interested and want to know more please contact our President Victoria Leachman by calling 021 490 329 or emailing president@wikimedia.nz.

Warm regards

Victoria Leachman (President) CopperAlchemy (talk) 02:37, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of John Mills (rugby union)


The article John Mills (rugby union) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG: played a couple games at the national level but did not achieve much success, not much coverage exists about him"

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FRSNZ list
Hi @Paora (and tagging @Schwede66). I've been right through the table adding the images that Wikidata knows about, adding in all the missing people to bring the list up to date, and trying to make sure people are linked to the right page. By my count there should be 793 people in the table but I'd welcome a second opinion (maybe it would be worth us having numbering in the table? It would assist in keeping the page and total number current in future). Technically the original fellows weren't elected but I think they're included in the table so I included them in my count. I separated out the Honorary Fellows on Wikidata and made a category for them in Wikipedia. There are more than 250 of them though so I haven't gone through to add people to the category, other than where they were in the wrong one. See Wikidata query here: https://w.wiki/9ZYg DrThneed (talk) 00:18, 27 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Great mahi!  Schwede 66  04:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Richard Washbourn
Z1720 (talk) 00:03, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Collingwood Area School
Z1720 (talk) 00:04, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Infobox templates
Hiya, I hope you're fine. Sorry to be pedantic, but I noticed you keep removing the "honorific_prefix = Sir/Dame" paragraph in the infobox of Vincent O'Sullivan. The infobox template clearly provides space for that "honorific_prefix = Sir/Dame" paragraph as per long-standing documentation, so – in order to avoid an edit war – why do you keep tweaking his infobox? Diademchild (talk) 15:16, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Atar Meiner
Hello, could you move this article from my workshop to this article Atar Meiner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GiladSeg/sandbox --GiladSeg (talk) 04:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Sir William Gallagher
Can you please advise why you keep removing the updated information for Sir William Gallagher. This is official, so please do not remove. Lady Judi Gallagher (talk) 03:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Certainly, I'm happy to explain.
 * 1. As outlined in WP:BLP, articles about living people require a high standard of verifiability, and material must be supported by reliable references. The information that you have added is not supported by reliable references.

2. Given your username, you appear to have a conflict of interest — please refer to WP:COI — and therefore should not be editing this article, but rather you should follow the procedures outlined at WP:COI.

3. The information that you have added is largely trivial and non-encyclopaedic, such as titles gained by buying a patch of land in Scotland. Paora (talk) 10:43, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Wiki Meetup
Kia ora Paul, sorry to say that I've got another cold so I won't be able to come tomorrow. Happy to be on Zoom/Jitsi if that's an option! --Prosperosity (talk) 02:35, 7 June 2024 (UTC)